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Filthy Rich Cleaners: The Cleaning Business Podcast
by ZenMaid
Filthy Rich Cleaners is the free cleaning business coach you never knew you needed. Hosted by Stephanie Pipkin, founder of Serene Clean, every episode delivers real, tactical advice you'd normally pay for in a consulting call. Honest stories, proven strategies, and tips from people who've built successful cleaning companies, whether you're just starting out or ready to scale. We're here to make you Filthy Rich 💸
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#160: Rose's Playbook to Attract the Right Client at the Right Price
Rose Cavanaugh started cleaning houses in 2019 as a newly single mom who needed to make money. Seven years later, she runs a 175-client cleaning business with 15 techs and an office manager, and, best of all, she is 100% out of the field. In this episode, Rose sits down with host Stephanie to walk through how she built Patriot Endeavors / Rose's Cleaning Services in rural Central Texas. She talks about the terror of the first hire, learning her worth on pricing, closing nearly every walkthrough with confidence, and building a "family first" culture in a high-turnover industry. She also shares the systems shift — ZenMaid, QuickBooks, ACH invoicing — that lets the business run without her. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why "I'll take any job" is a survival mindset you have to outgrow once you hire staff — How to build pricing confidence: do the walkthrough, vet the minimum first, and never budge on your number — Why selling the value (not the price) is what closes 9 out of 10 walkthroughs — How to relay client expectations to your team so quality doesn't get lost in translation — The "family first" flexibility that turns parents and single moms into your most loyal staff — Why letting go and delegating is the hardest skill for a growing owner — How switching to ZenMaid, QuickBooks, and ACH transformed operations (and why losing a few clients was worth it) Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid (scheduling software, digital checklists, notes, client management): https://get.zenmaid.com/ — Rose's Cleaning Services: https://www.facebook.com/p/Roses-Cleaning-100066975405899/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/ 📋 Apply to be a guest on Filthy Rich Cleaners: https://get.zenmaid.com/guest-application
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#159: Client Red Flags Every Cleaning Business Owner Should Know
0 years ago, there was barely any competition for cleaning businesses. Today, it feels like everyone and their mother has a cleaning business, so how do you actually stand out? In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Maria Dorian — owner of Task Away VA and a cleaning company that she now runs remotely from Spain. They dig into how the industry has transformed, why creativity beats budget when you're starting out, how to handle bad reviews and difficult clients, and red flags that owners should look for in current or prospective clients. 📌 What You'll Learn — How to stand out with creativity and hustle when you don't have a marketing budget — Why consistency and communication are now non-negotiable (not optional extras) — How to reframe a refund as a marketing cost instead of a fairness battle — Why responding to a bad review is really about your future customers, not the angry one — The client red flags to watch for, including same-day requests, serial service-hoppers, price obsession, and chaotic phone calls — Why trusting your gut on safety concerns is never worth ignoring — How to build policies and paper trails so the same problem never happens twice Resources Mentioned — Task Away VA (Maria's virtual assistant company): https://taskawayva.com/ — Maria's previous Filthy Rich Cleaners episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgNrUVhaJDc 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/ 📋 Apply to be a guest on Filthy Rich Cleaners: https://get.zenmaid.com/guest-application
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#158: The Mindset Shift That Tripled Sophia Tyler's Cleaning Business
Most people wait until they "feel ready" to do things like raise prices or hire staff. Sophia Tyler did the opposite and jumped straight in. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Sophia, the 24-year-old owner and founder of LadyDo in Longmont, Colorado, who launched her cleaning business at age 20. They dig into the messy early days of undercharging and overdelivering, the emotional work of raising rates on longtime clients, and how mindset, networking, and BNI became the engine behind her growth. Plus, a genuinely wild on-the-job story that you don't want to miss 👀 📌 What You'll Learn — Why speed and confidence beat low pricing every time — How to raise your rates on existing clients without losing your nerve — Why "double your price and lose half your clients" can still leave you ahead — How BNI and word-of-mouth networking tripled Sophia's business — Why emotional regulation is a real business skill, not a soft one — The boundary-setting mistakes new owners make in their first year — A critical safety check every cleaner should add to their checklist Resources Mentioned — You Are the Placebo by Dr. Joe Dispenza: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1401944590?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback — Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins (the "cookie jar" concept): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1544512287?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback — Thou Shall Prosper by Rabbi Daniel Lapin: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0470485884?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback — Katherine Zenkina (Manifestation Babe): https://manifestationbabe.com/ — BNI (Business Network International): https://www.bni.com/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/ 📋 Apply to be a guest on Filthy Rich Cleaners: https://get.zenmaid.com/guest-application
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#157: The Exact Quality Control System We Use at Serene Clean
If you've ever wondered how to pull off a surprise quality check without terrifying your cleaner, you've come to the right place. In this solo episode, Stephanie answers a listener question from Kate in Australia about quality control checks and the practical side of making them happen. She walks through Serene Clean's exact QC form, the culture of "everybody checks everybody," the ideal timing for showing up, how often to check different staff members, and how feedback gets documented and shared with the team. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why your cleaning checklist is the foundation of every quality check — How to build a QC form anyone on your team can follow — Whether to arrive during the clean or after (and why in-person, real-time feedback is ideal) — How to handle logistics: getting into the house, telling the tech, and telling the client — How often to quality-check new hires vs. staff in good standing — The color-coding and tracking-sheet system that keeps QCs proactive, not reactive — How to document and share feedback so it counts for raises, bonuses, and warnings — The "Pavlov" pro tip for turning quality-check anxiety into something your team looks forward to Resources Mentioned — Stephanie's YouTube video on Serene Clean's quality control system (from ~2 years ago): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UByNeDk--BM — ZenMaid (daily calendar view + QC task scheduling): https://get.zenmaid.com/ — ZenMaid Mastermind Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind — CleanCon (Austin, end of September): https://www.mycleancon.com/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/ 📋 Apply to be a guest on Filthy Rich Cleaners: https://get.zenmaid.com/guest-application
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#156: How Jose Razo Built a Premium Cleaning Brand From Scratch
Laid off from a 10-year cybersecurity career, Jose Razo used his severance to launch the cleaning business he'd been sitting on for years. He built it around one person: his own home's cleaner of six years. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Jose, owner of Allens Landing Cleaning just outside Houston, Texas. Jose shares how he went from tech professional to cleaning business owner in a matter of months, why he refuses to compete on price, and how he's building a premium brand from a two-person team. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why execution beats knowledge and how to stop sitting on your business idea — How to build a premium cleaning brand from day one, even as the smallest company on the block — Why "we're not the cheapest" belongs on your website — How to structure pay and expectations so great cleaners want to work for you — The reason consistency is your biggest differentiator — How to win the first phone call and set realistic expectations on first-time cleans — Why free and discounted cleans are an investment, not a cheapened brand — How to leverage one apartment complex into a 13-property vendor relationship Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid (scheduling & automation) — Notion (systems & documentation) — Claude / Claude Design (SOPs, branding, research) — Serene Clean (Stephanie's cleaning business) — Friendswood Chamber of Commerce — Allens Landing Cleaning (allenslandingcleaning.com) + Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/allenslandingcleaning/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/ 📋 Apply to be a guest on Filthy Rich Cleaners: https://get.zenmaid.com/guest-application
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#155: Why Accountability Makes or Breaks Your Cleaning Business
Two cleaners, the same feedback, but two completely different reactions. This told Stephanie everything she needed to know about who stays and who goes at Serene Clean. In this episode, Stephanie talks about why she views accountability as the single biggest predictor of whether someone will succeed on your team (or in your business). She walks through two active situations in her company right now: a beloved, long-tenured cleaner going through a rough patch who takes full responsibility for her mistakes, and a two-month hire who blames everyone but herself 👀 📌 What You'll Learn — Why accountability is the telltale sign of who will succeed on your team — How to deliver negative client feedback without ruining a cleaner's whole day — Why you should praise in public and coach in private — How the "line of credit" model of trust helps you decide who gets the benefit of the doubt — Why you need to look at actions and see that how people react to stress reveals their real character — When to stop retraining and simply let someone go — How to proactively pull honest feedback from clients who love their cleaner and don't want to complain Resources Mentioned — Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink — ZenMaid service rating features (for collecting internal client feedback) — ZenMaid Mastermind Facebook group — The prior episode on paying for things you didn't break 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/ 📋 Apply to be a guest on Filthy Rich Cleaners: https://get.zenmaid.com/guest-application
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#154: Simone Angell on How to Go From Solo Cleaner to Running a Team
If you're burnt out doing every clean yourself but terrified to hire, you're not alone! In this episode, Stephanie welcomes back Simone Angell of The House Mum to talk about a question posted in the ZenMaid Mastermind: how do you transition from doing all the cleaning yourself to building and leading a team? Simone, who just hit 30 employees running a luxury household-management company in Australia, and Stephanie unpack pricing, hiring, financial transitions, client notes, and the hard conversations. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why a growing waiting list should trigger a price increase (and how that funds your first hires) — How to handle the financial "pie" when you bring on your first cleaner without going broke — Why hiring out of desperation backfires and how to trust your gut instead — How to document client notes so any team member can step in seamlessly — Why you must pay yourself from day one, even if it's only 1% of revenue — How to frame a termination so it lands as kindly as possible — Why employment contracts and kit bonds protect the business you've worked to build — How part-time staff can be just as loyal and dedicated as full-timers Resources Mentioned — The House Mum (https://housemum.com / @housemumhomeservices on Instagram) — ZenMaid (booking form, scheduling, GPS clock-in/out, digital checklists): https://get.zenmaid.com/ — ZenMaid Mastermind Facebook group (original post by Courtney Burleson, May 14): https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/ 📋 Apply to be a guest on Filthy Rich Cleaners: https://get.zenmaid.com/guest-application
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#153: How to Handle Damage in Clients' Homes (And Who Pays For It)
It's not a matter of IF you'll break something in a client's home, but a matter of when 😬 It happens to every cleaning business owner, and in this solo episode, Stephanie talks about things she and her team have broken, damaged, and replaced over seven years at Serene Clean — from a faucet that snapped in her hand to a priceless glass statue that couldn't be replaced. She breaks down who's responsible when staff damages items, why you should never hide it, and how reducing risk in your kit and scope of work protects your business in the long term. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why the employer (not the employee) pays when staff break something — The exact email template Serene Clean uses to notify clients about damage — Why hiding a broken item can quietly destroy your reputation — How to reduce risk by removing harsh products and risky tasks from your kit — When it's okay to stand your ground and refuse to pay for a damage claim — Why charging good rates and carrying insurance protects you when expensive accidents happen 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter 📋 Apply to be a guest on Filthy Rich Cleaners: https://get.zenmaid.com/guest-application
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#152: Your Gut Is Always Right About Bad Hires, with Lee Anne Chevalier
Hiring is hard, but firing is harder — especially when it's the first time you have to do it. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Lee Anne Chevalier, owner of SerenLumi in Ithaca, New York, just hours after she performed her first-ever employee termination! Lee Anne walks through her decades in cleaning, rebuilding her business from rock bottom after moving states, and the timely story of a manipulative hire who tried to pressure her into committing unemployment fraud. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why "speed of trust" matters and how to extend it like a credit card, not a blank check — How to spot a manipulative hire before they poison your team — Why long-commute employees almost never work out long-term — How to protect your team (and your reputation) when an employee turns toxic — Why building a real brand from day one beats piecing things together — How to re-enter a market as a full brand after starting over Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid (scheduling software, SOS feature, new app beta, Stripe + Mailchimp integrations): https://get.zenmaid.com/ — The ZenMaid Mastermind Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind — Serene Clean templates (purchased and adapted for SerenLumi): https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ — The Filthy Rich Cleaners episode with Cheryl Hajjar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9azk8CrpGE 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#151: Why 57% of My Interview Confirmations Never Showed Up
Stephanie used to spend nothing on job listings for years. That's all changed now, and in this solo episode, Stephanie walks through Serene Clean's real numbers behind a month of aggressive hiring. She shares the May 2026 hiring funnel — from applications started to retained hires — and how much she spent on Indeed to get there. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why free job listing hacks on Indeed no longer work — Why Stephanie runs all interviews (group and secondary) on Zoom — What a 57% interview no-show rate really tells you about applicants — The full May hiring funnel: 395 applications started down to 5 retained hires — Why she refuses to call and remind candidates about confirmed interviews — What percentage of revenue to spend on recruiting (0.5–1.5% baseline, 2–4% during growth) — The mindset shift behind being willing to spend money to solve your biggest constraint Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid Mastermind (Facebook group): https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind — Indeed job post: https://www.indeed.com/job/daytime-residential-and-commercial-cleaning-technician-23e73d25ef635a46 — Previous episode on group interviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzpln5-Z0-A 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#150: Why Ashley, My Longest-Tenured Cleaner, Has Never Quit
Most cleaning business owners obsess over hiring, but few ask the people who actually stay why they stayed. In this in-person episode, Stephanie sits down with Ashley Seekamp, one of her very first hires at Serene Clean and now her longest-tenured cleaning technician at nearly seven years. They talk candidly about what it was like to build the company out of chaos, the growing pains of adding structure, the hard call to fire a beloved employee for theft, and the on-the-job moments that have shaped Serene Clean's policies. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why flexibility, safety, and being backed up by management beat a bigger paycheck for retaining staff — How adding "corporate" structure creates growing pains — Why you can't hire "hot bodies" and hope for the best — How to coach staff through trusting their intuition on unsafe client situations — The check-in process that makes employees feel like a person instead of just a number on the payroll — Why theft is a non-negotiable, no-second-chances firing — How good employees notice when you hold the line — The real skill behind professional cleaning that outsiders never see 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#149: How We Raised Prices AND Got Our Highest Close Rate in Years
Owners are often terrified to raise prices, and Stephanie Pipkin completely understands why. In fact, her team, including Serene Clean's Customer Relations Manager, Katie, just did it across the board, but they came out with their highest close rate in years. In this special in-person episode, Stephanie sits down with Katie to break down the whirlwind of May: a price increase on 72 existing clients, a full switch from hourly to flat-rate pricing, built-in travel fees, and autopay. They talk about Serene Cleans' numbers and why they believe framing a price matters far more than the number itself. 📌 What You'll Learn — How to roll out a price increase without losing the clients you want to keep — Why switching from hourly to flat rate made selling easier, not harder — The psychology of why long-term clients resist increases more than new ones — How to build travel fees into one simple price (the "Amazon free shipping" trick) — Why every hour of labor has to work as hard as possible when staffing is your constraint — How "priority cleans" replaced "limited hour cleans" to kill the time conversation — The production-rate auditing system that flags every job over or under target in 15-minute increments Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid Software: https://get.zenmaid.com/ — Serene Clean website: https://serene-clean.com — ZenMaid Mastermind (Facebook group): https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#148: ZenMaid's Vision for the Maid Service Industry, with CEO Amar Ghose
ZenMaid wants to be more than your scheduling software. In this episode, Stephanie sits down again with Amar Ghose, CEO of ZenMaid, to talk about how ZenMaid is thinking about the maid service industry and the problems it's setting out to solve. They talk about using AI as a thinking partner instead of a decision-maker, the new tools coming out of ZenMaid (MaidPop, the customer portal, and a training/onboarding app), an exercise that helps owners design genuine customer delight, and more! 📌 What You'll Learn — Why giving AI more context beats short, Google-style questions (and how to start using voice notes to do it) — How to use AI as a thinking partner to find your blind spots — without outsourcing the actual decision — The "12-star experience" exercise for designing customer delight at every level of your business — Why "I can just do that" is one of the most dangerous phrases an owner can say — How MaidPop captures website leads in about two minutes of setup — Why the best companies use best-in-class tools instead of one all-in-one platform — Three books worth reading: The Goal, The Algorithm, and Incorruptible Resources Mentioned — MaidPop: https://www.maidpop.io/ — Apply to be a guest on Filthy Rich Cleaners: https://get.zenmaid.com/guest-application — The Goal: 40th Anniversary Edition: A Process of Ongoing Improvement: https://www.amazon.com/Goal-Process-Ongoing-Improvement/dp/0884271951 — The Algorithm: The Hypergrowth Formula That Transformed Tesla, Lululemon, General Motors, and SpaceX: https://www.amazon.com/Algorithm-Hypergrowth-Formula-Transformed-Lululemon/dp/B0FFG5KFSK — Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad... and How Great Companies Stay Great: https://www.amazon.com/Incorruptible-Good-Companies-Great-Stay/dp/B0FWZZBPZB 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#147: How I Built a Career Path for My Cleaning Techs (Finally)
After seven years, Stephanie recently built a real career path at Serene Clean, but it looks nothing like what most cleaning companies do. In this episode, she unveils the new four-level career path she launched: Cleaning Tech 1, Cleaning Tech 2, Senior Cleaning Tech 1, and Senior Cleaning Tech 2. She breaks down why she intentionally left some roles vague to future-proof the business, how she tied two new monthly bonuses to attendance and compliance, and why she deliberately skipped titles like "team lead" and "trainer." She also walks through exactly how she ran the numbers with AI to make sure the bonuses were affordable at their worst-case cost. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why a too-simple structure can quietly cause turnover and stagnation — How to build a career path using behaviors you're already tracking — Why Stephanie set attendance qualification at 98% — How the rolling six-month attendance window actually works — Why she made the bonuses monthly instead of quarterly — How to calculate what a new bonus or benefit will cost you at its worst — Why she avoids team leads and the power dynamics they can create — How to future-proof roles by leaving responsibilities intentionally flexible Resources Mentioned — Serene Clean Raise & Wage Guidelines (previous episode): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQngBPrIuWQ — Molly Moran (Live Bright Consulting): https://mollymoran.com/ — Career Path Template ($15): https://serene-clean.com/downloads/career-path-template/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#146: How Matt Ricketts Built a $6M Cleaning Company
Matt Ricketts went from being a furloughed pilot back in the 2008 economic crash to owning a residential cleaning company doing $6M a year, but he didn't plan any of this. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Matt Ricketts of Better Life Home Services to talk about why he decided to own a cleaning business after being furloughed from his pilot job, and how he eventually scaled to 60+ cleaners across St. Louis. Matt shares the operational systems behind his "pod" model, why he switched from teams to solos, how he thinks about the numbers that drive growth, and where he sees private equity reshaping the industry. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why recurring revenue per week matters far more than your total customer count — How the "pod system" cuts drive time and keeps cleaners working close to home — The 500-to-1 hiring funnel Better Life uses to filter applicants — Why getting a new hire to 90 days predicts whether they'll last a year — How to fund great benefits with a customer-facing health and safety fee — The math behind spending $360 (or more) to acquire a single customer — The three pillars of "delight": operational excellence, custom experience, and memorable moments — Why solo cleaners generate more revenue per head than teams — How private equity and AI are about to reshape the cleaning industry Resources Mentioned — Better Life Home Services: https://betterlifehome.com/ — Sight Stones (Matt's nonprofit — gifts for customers): https://sightstones.org/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#145: 3 Ways Cleaning Business Owners Are Doing Too Much
If you're prepping every cleaner's kit, tolerating time theft, or trying to force the wrong person into an office role, this one's for you 🥴 In this episode, Stephanie breaks down three examples from the past week of cleaning business owners doing too much, including why your cleaners should be responsible for their own kits and supplies, why time theft is a non-negotiable firing offense, and why pushing the wrong employee into an administrative role is costing you. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why owners should never be the ones prepping cleaner kits (and how to transition that responsibility) — How to pay cleaners fairly for 10 minutes of prep time so you can hold them accountable — Why GPS clock-in/clock-out is one of the most important features of any scheduling software — How to handle staff who turn off GPS tracking or clock in from home — Why "time theft" is still legitimate theft — How to spot when an employee is the wrong fit for an office role — Why problem-solving with technology matters more than knowing how to do something — How Stephanie's team documents SOPs using recordings + Claude to make processes plug-and-play — Why org charts and role clarity matter once you bring on admin help Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid Mastermind (free Facebook group): https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind — Claude AI (used for writing SOPs from recordings): https://claude.ai/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#144: How Krista's Family-Run Cleaning Business Grew 30% a Year
Krista Radau didn't set out to build a cleaning empire; she just needed to help pay the bills! Six years later, she's running Extreme Clean Solutions in Oklahoma City with her husband, son, niece, and now her mom, and growing 30% a year without spending any money on ads 🤯 In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Krista to talk about starting a cleaning business in November 2019 (right before COVID), turning her husband's window cleaning company into a profitable upsell, why she walked away from a five-year Air Force Base contract, and how her TikTok handle "Queen of Clean OKC" is pulling in clients from other states. 📌 What You'll Learn — How Krista grew her business 30% per year using only word of mouth — Why she walked away from a five-year government contract mid-negotiation — How to combine window cleaning with house cleaning for a massive revenue lift — Her exact pricing on ovens ($50+), fridges ($80), and windows ($20 each) — Why "Google loves Google" and how to treat your Google Business Page like social media — How to build TikTok content that actually converts to bookings — Why systems, checklists, and policies protect you from awkward customer conversations — The squeegee method she preaches on every cleaning job — How to add coach light cleaning as a high-margin upsell — Why authentic, unpolished video outperforms scripted content every time Resources Mentioned — Extreme Clean Solutions (Oklahoma City): https://extremecleaningsolution.com/ — ZenMaid (scheduling software): https://get.zenmaid.com/ — Angela Brown / Savvy Cleaner (systems advice): https://www.youtube.com/c/AngelaBrownCleaning — Krista's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@QueenofCleanOKC 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#143: How to Get Hundreds of Google Reviews for Your Cleaning Business
Reviews are the lifeblood of a residential cleaning business, and the companies racking up hundreds of them have a system in place, including Serene Clean. In this episode, Stephanie breaks down exactly how Serene Clean has collected 471 (!!!) Google reviews, 64 Facebook reviews, and dozens of video testimonials over seven years. She walks through the leave-behind cards, QR codes, email signatures, and the brand-new "Record and Reward" incentive program that pays cleaning techs to bring in video reviews. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why reviews are the single most important piece of social proof for a local cleaning business — How to track reviews as a weekly KPI so you never go stale — The exact leave-behind card Serene Clean uses (front and back) to ask for written and video reviews — Why putting your review links on checklists, invoices, and email signatures multiplies your results — How to incentivize cleaning techs to actively collect reviews — The four questions Serene Clean asks every client for a video review — How the Record and Reward program stacks bonuses: $20 per video, +$30 for the first video of the week, +$10 for the second, plus a quarterly pot — Why video reviews outperform Google reviews when you're just starting out — The pain-point question Stephanie added after Alex Hormozi's conference to make video testimonials better for marketing — Where to repurpose video reviews so they keep working for you for years Resources Mentioned — Serene Clean review card (front and back): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ksddeuPtVV2cZWVaQCZV4dw34USqMjil/view?usp=sharing — Record and Reward Incentive Program document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A0vfHqOc-SnfXYr3wtBq-6Dmhjn773HdpzGUAj0CYJo/edit?usp=sharing — Joe's video review (example): https://youtu.be/KHlrZraiCck?si=xD-qU9amX78W6qx6 — ZenMaid Mastermind (Facebook group): https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#142: Dan Platta on Why Hitting $1M in Your Business Won't Fix Your Problems
Most cleaning business owners think they have a hiring problem, a marketing problem, or a cash flow problem, but Dan Platta disagrees. He says they actually have a clarity problem 🤯 In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Dan Platta, owner of Best Damn Bookkeeping and former operator of multiple cleaning, window, and home service businesses across the US. Dan breaks down the "Purgatories of Scaling," explains why bookkeeping is a finance activity (not a tax activity), and walks through the five spending buckets every service business owner should be tracking weekly. 📌 What You'll Learn — The three "purgatories" every cleaning business gets stuck in — Why doubling your revenue from $100K to $200K often means making less money — The five money buckets every cleaning business needs to track (and the % targets for each) — Why hiring a local bookkeeper or tax accountant for your books is usually a mistake — Why you should NOT sync your CRM to QuickBooks — How to reverse-interview candidates so the right people self-select in — The biggest hiring filter mistake owners make: "stop selling the job like it's easy" — Why your highest-producing cleaner is often the worst person to promote to manager — How to think about admin team spend (and the 15–17% sweet spot) — Why "growth is expensive" and how to brace your business (and team) for it Resources Mentioned — Best Damn Bookkeeping: https://bestdamnbookkeeping.com — Home Service Happy Hour Podcast (Dan's show): https://www.youtube.com/@HomeServiceHappyHour — Hire Lead Chill (recruiting company Dan co-owns with Sean Day): https://hireleadchill.com 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#141: How We Got Free Local News Coverage for Our Cleaning Business
Free PR? Sign us up! It's not as far-fetched as it sounds, and Stephanie's team pulled it off last month with one well-crafted email. In this solo episode, Stephanie breaks down the exact media pitch her executive assistant, Veronica, used to land Serene Clean in two local news outlets in April. She talks about why charitable giving has been baked into Serene Clean's brand since its inception in 2019, how the Cleaning for a Reason partnership works, the PR pitch that worked to get Serene Clean in the local news, and more. 📌 What You'll Learn — How to structure a media pitch that local reporters will open (subject line + 150-word body) — Why leading with the community story is the formula that gets greenlit — How Cleaning for a Reason membership works and why $25/month is worth it for brand-building alone — How Stephanie structures Serene Clean's monthly giving budget (fixed + variable) — Why local TV is still the most trusted news source and reaches your ideal cleaning customer — The subject line and pitch email Serene Clean sent to land two media placements — Why corporate social responsibility is a long-term branding play Resources Mentioned — WEAU news story on Serene Clean's Cleaning for a Reason partnership: https://www.weau.com/2026/05/01/local-cleaning-company-brings-free-house-cleanings-homeowners-fighting-cancer/ — Cleaning for a Reason (nonprofit partner, $25/month membership): https://cleaningforareason.org/ — ZenMaid Mastermind Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind — Sean Perry's previous episode on SEO and backlinks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJNnCWP4Pik — Serene Clean's Fresh Start Project (free cleaning initiative): https://serene-clean.com/giveback/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#140: How Reagan Bell Turned Getting Fired Into a Thriving Cleaning Company
Reagan Bell was fired from a toxic cleaning job at 18. Four years later, she's running her own organic cleaning company in Orlando, and about to take it fully remote. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Reagan, the 22-year-old founder of Bell's Organic Maids, to talk about how she turned getting fired from a chaotic contractor job into launching her own business from scratch. They cover the systems she set up from day one, why she chose W2 employees over independent contractors, how she's promoting her first hire into a field manager role, and the plan she's following to transition to remote ownership when she moves across the country this summer. 📌 What You'll Learn — How to turn cleaning experience into a real business — Why W2 employees beat independent contractors for culture and risk protection — The exact software stack Reagan uses to stay organized (ZenMaid, Confluence, Notion) — How to promote your first cleaner into a field manager role with a stipend structure — Why automated client reminders are a non-negotiable — Small, thoughtful client retention gifts under $5 that drive real word of mouth — How Stephanie maintains team culture as a remote owner using Slack channels, weekly virtual meetings, and AI-powered positive reinforcement — Why signed service policies will save you when you run into the inevitable crazy client Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid (CRM, scheduling, automated reminders, invoicing): https://get.zenmaid.com/ — Confluence (systems and SOP documentation): https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence — Notion (team hub for checklists, inventory, employee guidelines): https://notion.so/ — Slack (team communication and culture): https://slack.com/ — Stripe (payment processing): https://stripe.com/ — Gusto + Guideline (payroll and 401k): https://gusto.com/ — Indeed (hiring) — Canva (branded client postcards) 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#139: Why I Switched From Hourly To Flat Rate After 7 Years
After seven years of being known as "the hourly girl," Stephanie made the change she swore she'd never make 🤯 In this solo episode, Stephanie walks through exactly how and why she transitioned the residential side of Serene Clean from hourly to flat rate pricing — on both maintenance cleans AND initial cleans — while keeping her cleaners on hourly pay. She breaks down the profit reasoning, the operational rollout in phases, the conversation with Molly Moran that sparked the official change, and the estimate email tweaks that are closing recurring clients before the first cleaning is even done. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why charging flat rate while paying hourly is the most profitable combination for her business — How to roll out a flat rate transition in phases without losing your client base — The exact production rates Serene Clean uses (150 sq ft per labor hour for initials, 100 sq ft per labor hour for move-outs) — Why offering an hourly price range was actually costing her closed deals — How to reframe your estimate email so recurring service is the default path, not an afterthought — Why she's not switching to percentage or performance pay for cleaners — How to handle scope creep, fast-cleaner variance, and "my house is already clean" objections under flat rate — What to do when a long-term client pushes back on a price increase with a quality complaint — Why you should pause price increases on any client with a recent complaint before rolling them in Resources Mentioned — Molly Moran (cleaning business owner, CleanCon co-founder): https://mollymoran.com/ — Serene Clean's Flat Rate Estimate Email Template — $15, available on Stephanie's website: https://serene-clean.com/downloads/flat-rate-cleaning-estimate-email-template/ — ZenMaid Mastermind: https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#138: Why Ryan Williams Started a Cleaning Business From Working at ZenMaid
Ryan Williams spent two years at ZenMaid helping cleaning business owners better run their companies...then he bought into one. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Ryan, co-owner of The Villages Maid Service Hot Springs location and VP of Revenue at ZenMaid, to talk about what changed when he went from giving advice to living it. They talk about classic hiring chaos, the feast-or-famine pendulum, the contractor vs. W2 debate, and why brand still beats AI in 2026. They also have a few very unserious blooper moments, but that's what you get when you listen to a podcast with these two 📌 What You'll Learn — Why the cleaners you trust earliest are often the ones who quit first — How to handle the "feast or famine" swing between too many leads and not enough cleaners — When the contractor model makes sense vs. when to switch to W2 — How to use Alex Hormozi's "Dream 100" to get your first paying customers — Why brand and culture matter more than paid ads in 2026 — What to do when an applicant says "yes" the morning of and ghosts you anyway — How to set expectations with 1099 cleaners around insurance and supplies Resources Mentioned — The Ultimate Sales Machine by Chet Holmes: https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Sales-Machine-Turbocharge-Relentless/dp/1591842158 — ZenMaid: https://get.zenmaid.com/ — The Villages Maid Service (Hot Springs + Florida locations): https://thevillagesmaidservice.com/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#137: I Asked Alex Hormozi to Fix My Cleaning Business
...and it worked! Well, kind of. In this solo episode, Stephanie talks about her experience at the Acquisition.com scaling workshop, which she took her entire management team to. Hosted by Alex Hormozi's team, she got to ask him a question directly about how to fix an ongoing issue at Serene Clean and walked away with the clearest game plan she's ever had for breaking through her revenue plateau. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why Stephanie brought all three of her managers to the workshop — How to categorize your clients as whales, dolphins, and minnows — The five business "value subtractors" every cleaning business owner should audit — Why Stephanie is launching a career path for her cleaners on June 1, 2026 — How group training cuts costs and protects your trainer's time — The interview questions that catch cleaners who can't physically handle the work — Why spending more on Indeed is solving her biggest constraint — How a single consulting call with Molly Moran moved Serene Clean from hourly to flat rate pricing — The estimating email tweak that more than doubled recurring bookings in one month Resources Mentioned — Alex Hormozi's content: https://www.youtube.com/c/alexhormozi — Acquisition.com — Molly Moran (cleaning business coach): https://mollymoran.com/ — ZenMaid Mastermind Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind — ZenMaid Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Stephanie's Consulting & Resources for Purchase: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#136: Shannon Miller on Why W-2s vs. 1099s Changes What Your Cleaning Business Is Worth
Shannon Miller has been in the cleaning industry for 16 years, sold one company, is preparing to sell another, and coaches thousands of owners a year through Klean Freaks University. She's seen it all, and in this episode, Stephanie sits down with Shannon to unpack the realities of building, scaling, and eventually selling a cleaning business. They talk through the classic W-2 vs. 1099 debate, why a 100% satisfaction guarantee can actually bankrupt you, how free cleanings get weaponized without firm boundaries, and the safety policies you need before something goes sideways in a client's home. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why W-2 businesses sell for more than 1099 referral models, and when each makes sense — How to structure free cleanings so they don't turn into scope-creep nightmares — Why a 24-hour walkthrough policy beats an open-ended satisfaction guarantee — The Code of Conduct Shannon now requires every client to sign — How to coach younger techs to recognize and shut down inappropriate client behavior — Why the cleaning industry is the first real legacy-building opportunity dominated by women — When (and how) to pivot policies that aren't working anymore Resources Mentioned — Klean Freaks University: https://kleanfreaksuniversity.com — Cleaning Business Life Podcast (Shannon's show): https://cleaningbusinesslife.buzzsprout.com/ — Shannon Leanne Miller's books on Amazon (8 published works): https://us.amazon.com/stores/Shannon-Lee-Ann-Miller/author/B0G1TTBB68?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1777512932&sr=8-1&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=8779df07-7e5c-4788-a38b-491d558d9f39 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/
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#135: The Books That Changed How I Run My Cleaning Business
Most business owners say they don't have time to read. But Stephanie has built a 7-figure cleaning company, and these books are a big reason why. In this solo episode, Stephanie breaks down every book that has had a lasting impact on her life and her business. From heavy personal reads on trauma, suffering, and purpose, to tactical frameworks on delegation, cash management, sales, and systems, she shares what she took from each one and exactly how she's applied it inside Serene Clean. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why Man's Search for Meaning reframes how you handle hard seasons in business — How The Body Keeps the Score helped Stephanie become a more empathetic leader — The 40% rule from David Goggins, and why your real capacity is almost always higher than you think — The three roles every business owner plays (and why the wrong one always wins) — How Profit First's 5-account system kept Serene Clean out of debt for 7 years — The 80-10-10 delegation rule from Buy Back Your Time and how to use it with a VA or EA — Why Thou Shall Prosper changed Stephanie's relationship with money and charging what she's worth — The "pigheaded discipline" concept behind Serene Clean's 500+ five-star reviews — What Deep Work revealed about time blocking and why most owners are busy but not moving forward — Why passion follows mastery, not the other way around Resources Mentioned 📚 — Man's Search for Meaning — Viktor Frankl — The Body Keeps the Score — Bessel van der Kolk — Can't Hurt Me — David Goggins — Relentless: From Good to Great to Unstoppable — Tim Grover — Ikigai — Héctor García & Francesc Miralles — E-Myth Revisited — Michael Gerber — Profit First — Mike Michalowicz — Buy Back Your Time — Dan Martell — The Ultimate Sales Machine — Chet Holmes — Thou Shall Prosper — Rabbi Daniel Lapin — Your Next Five Moves — Patrick Bet-David — What Should We Do? — Joe Crisara — Start With Why — Simon Sinek — Good to Great — Jim Collins — Deep Work — Cal Newport — So Good They Can't Ignore You — Cal Newport — 4,000 Weeks — Oliver Burkeman — $100M Offers — Alex Hormozi — $100M Leads — Alex Hormozi 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://www.zenmaid.com/newsletter/
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#134: How Natalie’s $15 Clean Built a 15-Year Business
What happens when a corporate sales executive burns out so badly that her brother jokes she might end up on World News Tonight? She moves to Boulder and starts cleaning houses! In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Natalie Mikishko, owner of Majestic Domestics and Clean Conscience Cleaning Service in Boulder, Colorado. Natalie walked away from a career that spanned HR training, grocery purchasing, cabinet sales, and commercial construction, and then built two cleaning companies from scratch — including a $15-a-clean lost leader campaign. She shares the full story of acquiring Clean Conscience in 2022, what she wishes she'd done differently, and how her team of two jumped in to clean when she lost seven staff members in a single month. 📌 What You'll Learn — How a Groupon-style newspaper deal at $15 per clean launched Majestic Domestics and created 15-year client relationships — What Natalie would demand before signing any acquisition deal again — Why she transitioned her team from hourly pay to percentage-based pay — How she recovered operationally after losing 7 cleaners in January without canceling on clients — The culture investments (backup company cars, AAA cards, a full office coffee and cocktail bar) that make her team stay Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid scheduling software: https://get.zenmaid.com — CleanCon conference: https://www.mycleancon.com/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/
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#133: The Paper Checklist That Built a Million-Dollar Cleaning Business
Most cleaning business owners think checklists are unnecessary friction and just another paper to hold onto. But Stephanie thinks they're one of the main reasons she built a million-dollar company, and she's ready to convince you 😉 In this solo episode, Stephanie breaks down every angle of why Serene Clean has used a physical paper checklist at every single residential appointment since the very first free cleans she ever did. She also shares exactly what Serene Clean puts on theirs, including a notes section, an abbreviation key, a safety checklist, and QR codes for reviews. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why relying on memory instead of checklists is the #1 source of quality issues in cleaning businesses — How to create consistency across multiple staff members, different trainers, and ongoing turnover — The team accountability system Serene Clean uses, so there's never a "he said, she said" after a complaint — Why the checklist is one of Stephanie's most powerful sales tools — How a personal notes section at the bottom gets cleaning techs more tips — The abbreviation key Serene Clean added so clients always know why a task was skipped — How QR codes on the checklist drive more Google reviews without feeling pushy — When a digital checklist is the right starting point — What a safety checklist looks like and why it matters for client trust Resources Mentioned: Filthy Rich Cleaners Ep. 70 on Client Cancellations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjSQPf4O604 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/
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#132: A $25K Revenue Drop Made Us More Profitable?! What My Q1 Review Taught Me About My Business
Revenue is down $25,000, yet profit is up 53%. How does that happen? And what does it actually mean for the business? In this solo episode, Stephanie walks through her full Q1 2026 financial and business review for Serene Clean (the same report she presented to her management team that week). She covers the data analysis she did to uncover her insights, why revenue is down but profit is up, and the three hidden costs that a lost commercial account was bleeding from the business for months, and so much more. 📌 What You'll Learn — How Serene Clean brought in less revenue in Q1 2026 but made 53% more profit than the same quarter last year — The three hidden costs one bad commercial account was silently creating (overtime, training, and call-out chaos) — Why Stephanie is adding a dedicated training line item in Gusto, and how you can do it too, regardless of your payroll software — How to calculate the true cost of a failed hire, including what most owners never think to track — Why call-out hours dropped by 355 compared to Q1 of last year — How 46% of first-time cleans converted to recurring clients in Q1 — Why Serene Clean went from lead-constrained to capacity-constrained in a single quarter — The MRR goal Stephanie set for 2026, how she broke it into a monthly action plan, and whether they're on track — How price increases across 98 clients added $22,573 in revenue from the same customer base — How to use AI (specifically Claude) to analyze payroll data, appointment history, and sales reports together Resources Mentioned — Filthy Rich Cleaners Ep. 103 — Stephanie's full 2025 year-end financial review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GpAnCO2nM — ZenMaid (cleaning business scheduling software): https://get.zenmaid.com 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/
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#131: "We've Cleaned It All" — 18 Years of Vacation Rental Secrets
She left nursing, started cleaning for friends as therapy, and accidentally built an 18-year cleaning empire in one of the wildest cities in America. LaShanda Brown has seen (and cleaned) everything 👀 In this episode, Stephanie sits down with LaShanda, owner of Sweeping Hands Cleaning Service in New Orleans, Louisiana, to talk about how she transitioned from a decade-long nursing career into cleaning, grew her business entirely on word of mouth, and built a 60% vacation-rental-focused operation complete with her own property management company. They talk about the wildest horror stories LaShanda has experienced, as well as advice on things like logistics, flat-rate pricing, and schedule routing through Mardi Gras parades. 📌 What You'll Learn — How LaShanda went from nursing to owning an 18-year residential and vacation rental cleaning business — Why word of mouth has been her only growth strategy — How to price vacation rental cleanings with a flat rate that accounts for worst-case guests — The off-site laundry system Sweeping Hands uses to run high-volume STR clients (color-coded bags, two shifts, property-specific labels) — How to set expectations with first-time Airbnb owners so you stay in control of the scope — Scheduling strategies for turnovers in a city full of parades, street closures, and unpredictable events — Why she won't hire couples but does hire family members — The pivotal COVID moment that led her to lock herself in an Airbnb for 5 days and finally build her ClickUp system — How business coaches helped transform parts of her business — Why knowing what you keep (not just what you make) is what ultimately builds wealth Resources Mentioned — Sweeping Hands Cleaning Service Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sweepinghandscleaning/ — ZenMaid cleaning business scheduling software: https://get.zenmaid.com/ — ClickUp: https://clickup.com/ — RingCentral: https://www.ringcentral.com/ — CleanCon (Austin, Texas in September): https://www.mycleancon.com/austin 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/
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#130: The Real Mental Side of Running a Cleaning Business, with Kala Pomeroy
Every cleaning business owner Kala Pomeroy has ever spoken with, from brand-new solo operators to teams of 50, has one thing in common: the fear that they're doing it wrong. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Kala, a 10-year cleaning business owner in Southeast Texas and full-time ZenMaid Customer Success Specialist. Kala shares her own journey from solo cleaner to remote business operator, including how she landed her ZenMaid job after a homeless man broke into her hotel room the night before her interview. Stephanie and Kala talk through the mental patterns holding cleaning business owners back and how to build systems without losing your mind. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why pricing anxiety shows up at every stage of business, from solo operators to 50-person teams — How analysis paralysis is costing you more time than imperfect action ever would — The difference between what should be automated and what should stay human in your cleaning business — Why you need to map out a process on paper before you ever touch a single software tool — How to stop comparing yourself to bigger businesses and start running your own race — Why cleaning is not unskilled labor and why you should be proud of what you do! Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid Pricing Calculator: https://www.zenmaid.com/magazine/how-much-to-charge-house-cleaning-2026/ — ZenMaid Mastermind Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/
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#129: 7 Lessons in 7 Years of Running a Cleaning Business
Happy 7 years in business to Serene Clean! 🥳 In this episode, Stephanie talks about 7 lessons she's learned — one for each year — owning and operating Serene Clean. From 2019 to now, Serene Clean is a $1.5 million company that she runs remotely from Savannah, Georgia, and Stephanie covers these 7 important lessons she picked up over the years: Always be hiring Raise your prices before you're ready Difficult clients cost much more than the business they bring in Your values are the decision maker, even when you're not in the room The vacation test — you can let go and delegate more than you think You're going to keep having mindset-shifting moments, so don't be scared of the change Community is what keeps you from quitting Resources Mentioned — Episode 42: Group Interviews for Your Cleaning Business: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzpln5-Z0-A — Thou Shall Prosper by Daniel Lapin: https://www.amazon.com/Thou-Shall-Prosper-Commandments-Making/dp/0470485884 — Profit First by Mike Michalowicz: https://www.amazon.com/Profit-First-Transform-Cash-Eating-Money-Making/dp/073521414X — ZenMaid Mastermind (free to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 📖 Read the full transcript:
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#128: How Jonathan Berger Runs a NYC Cleaning Empire Remotely From Southeast Asia
Jonathan Berger was living in his car and driving for Uber when the idea for Cleanzilla began. Now he runs 400+ recurring clients across New York City and just came back from six months in Southeast Asia. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Jonathan, co-founder and co-owner of Cleanzilla in New York City, to learn more about his origin story. From dropping out of high school, living in his car, and meeting his wife Anna, Jonathan has since built a multi-six-figure residential cleaning business across Manhattan and Queens. He breaks down the NYC logistics of running a cleaning business with solo cleaners, subway systems, and 600–1,500 sq ft apartments, how he cut ad spend from $8,000 to $1,500 per month while keeping 15–20 inbound leads per day, and how he and Anna built the systems to step away from the business for months at a time. 📌 What You'll Learn — How Cleanzilla scaled from Google Calendar to a fully remote operations setup with ZenMaid, Notion, and Quo — Why Jonathan dropped from $8K/month in Google Ads to $1,500/month in SEO but maintained the same lead volume — The "Pizzeria Effect:" how to stand out when you have five competitors on every block — How to structure a team that runs without you — What running a cleaning business in NYC actually looks like, including solo cleaners, metro cards, condensed supply kits, and apartment-only routing — How Jonathan and Anna built word-of-mouth hiring by treating their team like family — The honest truth about running a business with your spouse Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid (scheduling and CRM software): https://get.zenmaid.com/ — CBF / Cleaning Business Fundamentals by Debbie Sardone: https://debbiesardone.com/ — CBF Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/cleaningbusinessprofits/ — Quo, formerly OpenPhone, affiliate link: https://www.openphone.com/perks/zenmaid?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=partnerstack&utm_content=community_experts&utm_campaign=c92107ec7cc9&pscd=get.openphone.com&ps_partner_key=YzkyMTA3ZWM3Y2M5&fbclid=IwY2xjawMr03ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBleUtsVnZtUjlJa2h5ZWpwAR7Gp8p4NVVF-Y8WODTTXb-NJi57ltYrsQs-pyFmuaRR4gMrj6TGYWpL1zlA_Q_aem_Ey2JG_AkBSk_SI8w5kDOBA&ps_xid=iGpmmTBqEJNW4d&gsxid=iGpmmTBqEJNW4d&gspk=YzkyMTA3ZWM3Y2M5 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/
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#127: Creating Genuine Content for Your Business (Live from CleanCon)
Personable content that shows you (and your brand's) personality might be what your marketing strategy is missing! In this episode — recorded live from CleanCon in Indianapolis — Stephanie sits down with Nicole Somerstein, ZenMaid's Content Marketing Manager, to talk about why personable content can elevate your brand and build trust with cleaning clients. Nicole brings a marketer's eye to an industry she's come to love, and together, they break down why authenticity wins — while also sprinkling in some life advice ✨ And yes, Nicole is the one who wrote this podcast description. 📌 What You'll Learn — Why your most imperfect, unplanned content often performs best — Why cleaning businesses need an About Us page with a real face and a real story — The difference between selling content and awareness content, and why you need both — How to stop competing against other owners' timelines and focus on your own race — Why getting on video is one of the highest-trust moves a cleaning business can make Resources Mentioned: CleanCon conference — https://www.mycleancon.com/ Drew Larson's episode — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NIBCsJQWkc ZenMaid Software — https://get.zenmaid.com/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/
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#126: Sean Parry on Google Maps SEO for Cleaners
Welcome back to Filthy Rich Cleaners! In this episode, Stephanie sits down for round two with Sean Parry, one of the leading automation, marketing, and SEO experts in the cleaning industry. Sean returns to break down the “black box” of local SEO and share practical, actionable strategies for cleaning business owners who want to generate more leads from Google. He dives into why ranking in the Google Maps top three is critical, and explains the website structure, Google Business Profile optimization, and consistency strategies that help cleaners rank higher and convert better. 📌 What You’ll Learn — Why the Google Maps top 3 drives the majority of local clicks — How Google Maps SEO can influence ChatGPT recommendations, too — The website foundation of service pages + location pages — What to put on your homepage “above the fold” so humans (and Google) trust you — A realistic content target — Why Google rewards consistency over big content dumps — How real photos + proper image titles/alt text strengthen local signals — The balance between SEO content and conversion-focused design — Google Business Profile optimizations — Backlinks explained — Why “gray hat” SEO can tank your rankings — The power of going hyperlocal first to win proximity-based rankings Resources Mentioned: — Project83 (Sean’s Marketing Agency): https://www.project83.co/ — Sean Parry's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@sean_parry 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter:https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 📖 Read the full transcript: https://zenmaid.com/magazine/sean-parry-on-google-maps-seo-for-cleaners/
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#125: When to Fight for a Client (And When to Fire Them)
Not every client cancellation means you failed, and not every client is worth saving. In this episode, Stephanie walks through three client situations that happened within a single week at Serene Clean, including a long-term weekly residential client who canceled after years, Stephanie's very first free-clean customer ever who just nearly left after a cleaner ignored her instructions, and a small commercial account that Serene Clean chose to fire after years of unpleasant behavior. 📌 What You'll Learn — How to handle a client cancellation when the cleaner is in the wrong — Why comparing a current cleaner to a former employee is a red flag that rarely resolves itself — When offering a free re-clean is the right move to save a long-term client relationship — Why quality checking the first appointment back after a save is non-negotiable — How to recognize when a client simply cannot be pleased — The opportunity cost of keeping a difficult client on your roster — How to write a professional "breakup email" to fire a client with class — Why listening to your cleaners' feedback about specific accounts matters 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 📖 Read the full transcript:
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#124: Samantha Price on Post-Construction Cleaning 101
Post-construction cleaning is one of the most in-demand, highest-paying niches in the cleaning industry, but there are few guidelines on how to do it right. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Samantha Price, founder of Cleansite Solutions in South Florida, to break down everything cleaning business owners need to know about post-construction work. Samantha shares how she launched her business with zero construction cleaning experience and eventually landed commercial accounts through cold calling and showing up at job sites. She talks through the three phases of construction cleaning, her flat-rate pricing approach, the equipment that actually matters, and more! 📌 What You'll Learn — How to get your first post-construction client through cold calling and drop-offs at job sites — The difference between rough cleaning, final cleaning, and touch-up cleaning — Why flat-rate pricing works better than hourly for construction clients — What equipment you actually need (and what to skip) — The #1 mistake cleaners make when they come from residential to construction sites — Why bidding a little lower on your first job with a contractor is a smart long-term strategy — How independent contractors make sense for post-construction work specifically — How Samantha has earned repeat business from 100% of the contractors she's ever worked with Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid Software: https://get.zenmaid.com — ZenMaid Mastermind: https://www.facebook.com/groups/zenmaidmastermind — Cleansite Solutions Website: https://www.cleansitesouthflorida.com/ — Cleansite Solutions on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cleansite_southflorida/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 📖 Read the full transcript:
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#123: How Julia Went From 0 to $100K Months in Under 2 Years
If you think your market is too small, think again! In this episode, Stephanie talks with Julia Callahan, founder of Jubilee Cleaning Co., who went from knocking on doors to building a $100K/month cleaning company in under two years — all while serving a suburban/rural area outside Pittsburgh. Julia shares what it really took to leave a six-figure medical sales career, handle ego and criticism, switch from 1099 to W2 early, and build a sustainable growth engine. She and Stephanie also share key leadership moments that business owners need to face to prioritize standards over comfort. 📌 What You’ll Learn — How Julia hit $100K months in under two years — Why saying YES to commercial cleaning accelerated growth — The attendance incentive system that reduces call-offs — How commission-based pay works for cleaning teams — How they drive (and reward) 5-star reviews — What to do when a clean goes sideways (and costs $10K) — How to overcome price objections using “scope swaps” — How to fill schedule gaps by upselling deep-clean bundles — Why recurring bookings should be sold immediately — The leadership skills that unlock scale Resources Mentioned — Million Dollar Home Cleaning Coaching Group: https://homecleaningcoaching.com/homecleaningcourses?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnL6wLgGp7zGeSnikVk30hftg9RLFYRfpDlgMPIWaKhTgf5omG4n2mmS9m6Q0_aem_SUDQ2EjtoUd7oefLvKz_ww — Stephanie's Administrative Bundle: https://serene-clean.com/downloads/administrative-documents-bundle/ — ZenMaid Software: https://get.zenmaid.com 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 📖 Read the full transcript: https://zenmaid.com/magazine/how-julia-went-from-0-to-100k-months-in-under-2-years/
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#122: Katie Bradley's “Simple Kit” Strategy for Faster, Safer, More Profitable Cleans
Katie Bradley is all over cleaning social media — but she’s not here for the viral “bucket of water on the floor” bullsh*t. In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Katie, Owner of Maid Busters in Cincinnati, Ohio (aka “Come Clean with Katie” online), to talk about what social media gets wrong, what real pros do instead, and how to run a cleaning business that protects clients’ homes and the cleaner’s body. This episode dives deep into safer product choices, simpler kits, stainless steel that actually looks good, and the boundaries that keep cleaners from burning out. 📌 What You’ll Learn — Why viral cleaning hacks can damage floors, counters, and finishes (and how to professionally say “no” to risky requests) — Katie’s simplified cleaning kit essentials — Why oils and “shine” products can cause buildup (and how to educate clients without making it weird_ — Boundaries that prevent resentment: clutter fees, scope clarity, and contracts that back you up — The real reason raising prices feels scary and how to stop “getting in clients’ pockets” — Content creation while cleaning — Why reliability is a competitive advantage 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 📖 Read the full transcript: https://zenmaid.com/magazine/katie-bradleys-simple-kit-strategy-for-faster-safer-more-profitable-cleans/
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#121: Why Your Cleaners Keep Going Over Time (And How to Fix It)
Are your cleaners going overtime or skipping check-ins? Before you blame the cleaner, you need to check yourself first 😉 In this solo episode, Stephanie breaks down one of the most common and costly problems in cleaning businesses: cleaners going over their approved time with no communication. Inspired by a real question from the ZenMaid Mastermind and a recent consulting call, Stephanie walks through every layer of the problem and gives practical, implementable fixes for each one. 📌 What You’ll Learn — Why the problem often starts with your estimating, not your cleaner's speed — What production rates are and how to audit yours using real data — How to calculate labor hours for first-time cleans, maintenance cleans, and vacant homes — Why cleaners need to know their approved time explicitly — How to set up a midpoint check-in process that gives you time to adjust before it's too late — The difference in risk between hourly vs. flat rate when jobs run long — How pay structure (hourly vs. performance-based) drives cleaner behavior — Why a fast feedback loop matters more than a formal sit-down — When to send a cleaner back through training vs. when it's a discipline issue — Legal considerations around docking pay for W2 employees who go over approved time Resources Mentioned: — Serene Clean Document Bundles: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services — Estimated Times Free Template: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q75a_fQMs0fcwGGMr5tCQL6ZwtnGJqO9bc2slfx9Qfo/edit?tab=t.0 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 📖 Read the full transcript: https://zenmaid.com/magazine/why-your-cleaners-keep-going-over-time/
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#120: How Kai DeMoss Went From a Gig App Cleaner to Real Clients in San Francisco
In this episode of Filthy Rich Cleaners, Stephanie sits down with Kai DeMoss, owner of Kai Cleans in San Francisco, to talk about how they went from a gig cleaner to a cleaning business owner. Kai talks about their experience on platforms like Homeaglow and the good, bad, and ugly that came with it — from the signup process and “AI support,” to pricing caps, client expectations, and why the platform attracts cost-conscious customers. Kai also shares what it really took to transition off platforms, lean into a niche community for early adopter clients, raise prices without spiraling, and start building real momentum through relationship-based networking. 📌 What You’ll Learn — What Homeaglow looks like from the cleaner side (and why clients get so frustrated) — How pricing works on platforms and where the “ceiling” shows up — Simple personal touches that help solo cleaners stand out fast — Why taking platform clients off-app usually isn’t worth it (even if you could) — How Kai found early adopter clients by leaning into a niche community — A practical way to reframe price increases (and get time freedom back) — How networking groups like chambers of commerce can turn into long-term lead engines — The “three types of people” Kai believes every business owner needs 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 📖 Read the full transcript: https://zenmaid.com/magazine/how-kai-demoss-went-from-a-gig-app-cleaner-to-real-clients-in-san-francisco/
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#119: How Emily Built a $330K Cleaning Business After Starting Over From Zero
In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Emily Cox of Just Peachy Cleaning Professionals to talk about what it really looks like to build (and rebuild) a cleaning business. Emily shares how she went from a struggling new mom bartending late nights to launching a cleaning business on a whim, then scaling to a full team… only to make a partnership decision that nearly burned it all down. She walks through what went wrong, how she started over from scratch, and the systems that helped her grow back to $330K in annual revenue. 📌 What You’ll Learn — What to prioritize in due diligence, and why “customers + employees” is the whole game — How Marko approached price increases without causing churn — The operational risk of technical debt in long-running cleaning companies — Culture integration tips when you become the new owner — Why incentives work for things like attendance bonuses, cancellation fees, and behavior changes — Hiring and integrating a great VA — How tight service areas and supply policies can simplify operations in a big city Resources Mentioned — Book: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck by Mark Manson 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 🎙️ Listen to the Podcast 📖 Read the full transcript: https://www.zenmaid.com/magazine/how-emily-built-a-330k-cleaning-business-after-starting-over-from-zero/
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#118: Scaling Fast While Staffing Smart, with Jennifer Dorn
Is this our longest episode yet?! Join Stephanie for a consulting-style living room conversation with Jennifer Dorn, Owner of Augusta Housekeeping, about what it takes to scale a cleaning business without blowing up your margins, team, or sanity. Jennifer talks through her journey being in the early growth stage, navigating staffing challenges, pricing mistakes, payroll pressure, and the fear that comes with scaling “too fast” or “not fast enough.” Stephanie talks through where to focus, what systems matter most, and how to think strategically about commercial accounts, production rates, and cleaner structure. 📌 What You’ll Learn — How to think strategically about scaling when revenue is still small — Why commercial accounts can create faster, more stable growth — How to structure individual cleaners vs. teams (and when to use each) — The biggest pricing and payroll mistakes new owners make — How flat-rate and “approved hours” pay models change cleaner behavior — Why production rates and walkthroughs are non-negotiable — How to use testimonials and Google reviews as your best marketing asset — What to consider before taking on Airbnb and event-based work — How to protect quality while incentivizing speed and efficiency 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 🎙️ Listen to the Podcast 📖 Read the full transcript: https://www.zenmaid.com/magazine/consult-style-session-on-scaling-fast-while-staffing-smart-with-jennifer-dorn/
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#117: How Serene Clean Built a Rockstar New-Cleaner Orientation Program
A 6-hour orientation SOUNDS excessive...until you see what it actually fixes! In this solo episode, Stephanie breaks down Serene Clean’s full orientation structure, including why they built it, what’s inside it, and how it transformed onboarding from chaotic to scalable and clear. She explains how orientation functions like a sales + education experience for the “internal customer,” and how building it forced the company to eliminate gray areas. Stephanie also shares which tools they use, how they introduce software, pay, benefits, safety, code of conduct, “at-the-clean” expectations, and more! What You’ll Learn — Why orientation reduces overwhelm and improves retention — How to structure orientation, even if you start bare-bones — What Serene Clean covers in their 6-hour walkthrough — How to onboard “culture” and expectations without info-dumping — The software setup flow: ZenMaid, Slack, Gusto, Train, and more — How orientation eliminates gray areas and creates scalable accountability — The safety section checklist (including situational awareness + SOS tools) — How to teach “how to be an employee here” before field training starts Resources Mentioned ZenMaid onboarding article: https://www.zenmaid.com/magazine/checklists-to-onboard-new-cleaning-employees/ Trainual Software: https://trainual.com/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 🎙️ Listen to the Podcast: 📖 Read the full transcript: https://www.zenmaid.com/magazine/how-serene-clean-built-a-rockstar-new-cleaner-orientation-program/
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#116: How Marko Lazarevic Bought and Modernized a 36-Year-Old Cleaning Company
A cleaning business acquisition that goes from 0 to 25 cleaners overnight? That’s exactly what happened in Chicago to Marko Lazarevic! In this episode, Stephanie talks with Marko, a former finance professional who acquired Manic Maids (a residential-heavy cleaning company operating since 1990), to talk about what surprised him after taking over and how he’s been modernizing an “old-school” operation. After growing the business by 20% (already!) since taking over, he breaks down what he looked for during due diligence, and how he's giving internal systems a huge facelift without wrecking culture, retention, reputation, or client trust. 📌 What You’ll Learn — What to prioritize in due diligence, and why “customers + employees” is the whole game — How Marko approached price increases without causing churn — The operational risk of technical debt in long-running cleaning companies — Culture integration tips when you become the new owner — Why incentives work for things like attendance bonuses, cancellation fees, and behavior changes — Hiring and integrating a great VA — How tight service areas and supply policies can simplify operations in a big city Resources Mentioned — Manic Maids: https://manicmaids.com/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: Serene-cleanConsulting Services - Serene Clean ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: Newsletter Sign Up 🎙️ Listen to the Podcast: 📖 Read the full transcript: (link)
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#115: Follow Up Like a Mad Person and Stop Letting Leads Die
2026 is the year that Stephanie buckles down for Serene Clean, and after a month, she's here to share a business update! January was a great month, but it wasn't because of luck. Stephanie breaks down the exact behavior changes that helped Serene Clean blow past its monthly recurring revenue goal, even without an impressive close rate (yet). She shares the real wins from January and the behind-the-scenes systems that made them happen, including aggressive lead follow-up, a new “ongoing contact” status in ClickUp, adding phone calls back into the process, and introducing a simple one-hour-free offer after 30 days. 📌 What You’ll Learn — How Serene Clean added ~$2,400 in MRR in January (and why it wasn’t from a higher close rate) — The follow-up cadence that turns “dead leads” into booked recurring clients — Why silence isn’t a “no” and when a lead becomes truly dead — How one small offer can generate massive ROI without cheapening your brand — The leading indicators Stephanie tracks daily/weekly to drive predictable growth — Real production rate benchmarks for deep cleans, first-time cleans, and maintenance cleans Resources Mentioned: — ClickUp: https://clickup.com/ — ZenMaid: https://get.zenmaid.com/ — Mailchimp: https://mailchimp.com/ — Quo/OpenPhone (+ ZenMaid referral link): https://www.openphone.com/perks/zenmaid?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=partnerstack&utm_content=community_experts&utm_campaign=c92107ec7cc9&pscd=get.openphone.com&ps_partner_key=YzkyMTA3ZWM3Y2M5&fbclid=IwY2xjawMr03ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBleUtsVnZtUjlJa2h5ZWpwAR7Gp8p4NVVF-Y8WODTTXb-NJi57ltYrsQs-pyFmuaRR4gMrj6TGYWpL1zlA_Q_aem_Ey2JG_AkBSk_SI8w5kDOBA&ps_xid=iGpmmTBqEJNW4d&gsxid=iGpmmTBqEJNW4d&gspk=YzkyMTA3ZWM3Y2M5 — Drew Larson's Filthy Rich Cleaners episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NIBCsJQWkc 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 🎙️ Listen to the Podcast: 🎧 Spotify: (link) 🎧 Apple Podcasts: (link) 📖 Read the full transcript: (link)
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#114: Sharon Tinberg’s No-BS System for Training Cleaners Fast
In this episode, Stephanie sits down with industry veteran Sharon Tinberg to break down one of the most frustrating parts of running a cleaning business: training that doesn’t stick. With decades of experience and nearly $2 million in annual revenue under her belt, Sharon shares exactly what most owners get wrong, as well as how to fix it with simple, repeatable systems. Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid: https://get.zenmaid.com/ — Clean Smart Academy: https://www.cleansmartacademy.com/ 📌 What You’ll Learn — Why shadowing trainers creates inconsistency and higher turnover — The difference between process and procedure (and why it matters) — How Sharon trained cleaners to clean homes correctly in just days — The overlooked details cleaners miss most — and how to prevent it — How periodic tasks improve client retention and reduce deep cleans — What it really took to manage 754 recurring clients successfully — How structured training systems lead to faster cleans and happier teams 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 🎙️ Listen to the Podcast: 📖 Read the full transcript: https://www.zenmaid.com/magazine/sharon-tinbergs-cleaners-training-system/
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#113: How to Always Be Hiring + Why You Need to Charge Travel Fees
In this solo episode, Stephanie tackles a listener question that came in through the ZenMaid newsletter! This is one that hits so many cleaning business owners — how do you grow when it feels like you’re always stuck choosing between turning down work… or hiring too early and scrambling to fill a schedule? Stephanie breaks down the real meaning of “always be hiring,” why the fix isn’t actually hiring nonstop (but rather building a pipeline), and how to create a more structured system for hiring cadence, regional staffing, and travel-heavy scheduling. 📌 What You’ll Learn — What “always be hiring” actually means (no, it’s not onboarding every week) — How to build a candidate pipeline so you’re never starting from zero — A simple way to decide when to hire based on capacity + training lead time — Why zoning your service area can reduce chaos and travel costs — How part-time hiring can solve the “schedule fill” pressure — When to charge travel fees and how to justify them — How Serene Clean approaches travel pay, home bases, and scheduling strategy — Why driving pay structure can make or break profitability in a large service radius Resources Mentioned — ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ ✉️ Subscribe to ZenMaid's Weekly Newsletter: https://zenmaid.lpages.co/newsletter-sign-up/ 🎙️ Listen to the Podcast: 📖 Read the full transcript: https://www.zenmaid.com/magazine/managing-service-area-hiring-and-travel-costs-cleaning-business/
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#112: How Jacques Bastien Built a Cleaning Business Without Being the Cleaner
Welcome back to Filthy Rich Cleaners! In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Jacques Bastien, co-founder of Chery Maids in Tampa, Florida, to talk about what it takes to scale fast without burning out. Jacques shares how Chery Maids grew to 6 cleaning teams and 100–150 cleans per month in only 1.5 years, why he and his wife walked away from short-term rentals, and more. He and Stephanie talk about failure, marriage + business boundaries, hiring virtual team members, and Jacque's deeper mission behind his work supporting Black and Brown creators. 📌 What You’ll Learn — Why Jacques ditched short-term rental cleanings for a simpler residential model — The SEAD framework: Systematize, Eliminate, Automate, Delegate — What to focus on before SOPs, and why most people do it backwards — How to reduce stress by designing your business rules — A practical way to create scripts/SOPs by recording real work and using AI to draft documentation — Challenges of recruiting quality cleaners when reputation matters — How Jacques and his wife split roles to work together — How virtual team members can run real, important operations Resources Mentioned Book: The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich by Tim Ferriss Book: The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right by Atul Gawande Book: The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It―A Guide to Starting a Business in a Productive and Successful Way by Michael E. Gerber 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ 🎙️ Listen to the Podcast: 📖 Read the full transcript: https://www.zenmaid.com/magazine/building-a-cleaning-business-without-being-the-cleaner/
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#111: Don't Be a Pushover! Policies That Protect Your Cleaning Business
In this episode of Filthy Rich Cleaners, Stephanie gets real about the messy middle of leadership: boundaries. You need boundaries to protect your business, yourself, your employees, and your sanity, especially when you’re a natural people-pleaser. She breaks down why exceptions (made out of guilt, fear, scarcity, etc.) do more harm than good, and shares real scenarios from consulting calls and Serene Clean’s own history. Listen in for scenarios like the “but they’re a great cleaner” trap, pay advance requests, clients texting techs directly, cancellation policy inconsistency, vacation rental scope creep, and super weird asks from clients. 📌 What You’ll Learn — Why “Yeah, but they’re a great cleaner” is usually a leadership red flag — How inconsistent enforcement undermines your authority (and your confidence) — The power of policies to enforce blanket rules — Boundaries that you need to prevent chaos — How to reduce business liability (pets, service providers, watching kids, etc. — Simple scheduling boundaries to implement — Why doing “little extras” sets staff up for complaints later on — How to stop being held hostage by bad behavior and rebuild the power seat 👉 Try ZenMaid free for 14 days: https://get.zenmaid.com 📞 Book a Consulting Call with Stephanie: https://serene-clean.com/consulting-services/ 🎙️ Listen to the Podcast: 🎧 Spotify: (link) 🎧 Apple Podcasts: (link) 📖 Read the full transcript: (link)
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Filthy Rich Cleaners is the free cleaning business coach you never knew you needed. Hosted by Stephanie Pipkin, founder of Serene Clean, every episode delivers real, tactical advice you'd normally pay for in a consulting call. Honest stories, proven strategies, and tips from people who've built successful cleaning companies, whether you're just starting out or ready to scale. We're here to make you Filthy Rich 💸
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