Leaving CrazyTown

Ever notice how all your relationship wisdom goes out the window the moment you're actually in one?Finn and Dr. Sarah get brutally honest about their current relationships and the codependent patterns that only surface when you're actually dating someone. Sarah shares her recent discovery about why she starts questioning the whole relationship instead of just speaking up about what's bothering her. Finn reveals his breakthrough about why he insisted no one could ever be special to him and how one simple question from his girlfriend changed everything.KEY TAKEAWAYSCodependent patterns only fully reveal themselves within actual relationships, not when you're single and theorizingWhen you start making mental lists of what's wrong with your partner, check if you've been avoiding communicating something importantOur definitions of relationship concepts like special, love, and commitment are shaped by our past experiences and often need clarification with partnersThe question What does that mean to you can create space for breakthrough conversations instead of defensivenessBeing in a relationship is like being in therapy with two people working on their stuff simultaneouslyNOTABLE QUOTE"What does special mean to you? Game-changer." — FinnLeaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. With a unique blend of humor, honesty, and clinical insight, this show tackles the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and boundary disasters — while offering practical tools, powerful storytelling, and a roadmap for emotional freedom. Weekly episodes on YouTube (@leavingcrazytown) and all major podcast platforms.

Ever wonder if you can actually have fun traveling without drinking your way through every destination?Teresa Bergen joins Dr. Sarah Michaud to share her incredible journey from drinking rubbing alcohol as a child to becoming a sober travel expert who's kayaked through Arctic icebergs and rafted the Grand Canyon. With over 40 years of sobriety starting at age 20, Teresa breaks down the real talk on navigating airports, resorts, and adventures without liquid courage. From avoiding wine country with your drinking buddies to finding your tribe of fellow adventurers, this conversation reveals how sobriety opens doors to experiences you never imagined possible.KEY TAKEAWAYSStart with group trips and guided activities when beginning sober travel to avoid logistics overwhelmChoose destinations based on your genuine interests, not what others expect you to enjoyBring accountability support and maintain your healthy habits while travelingYou don't have to be perfect at new activities to enjoy incredible experiencesSometimes the best adventures happen when you step outside your comfort zone (but keep the hotel room)NOTABLE QUOTE"You don't have to be good at all of them. I'm not saying that all these things I'm really great at, like when I'm kayaking in every state, it's not like I'm kayaking 50 miles out of the wild by myself. It's like I'm renting a kayak and paddling around for an hour or two and looking at birds." — Teresa BergenGUEST BIOTeresa Bergen is author of The Sober Travel Handbook and a writer for Sober Curator Online magazine. With over 40 years of sobriety beginning at age 20, she's turned her passion for adventure into a mission to help others discover the world without alcohol. Teresa is currently on a quest to kayak in every US state and Canadian province while sharing practical tips for sober travelers worldwide.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. With a unique blend of humor, honesty, and clinical insight, this show tackles the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and boundary disasters — while offering practical tools, powerful storytelling, and a roadmap for emotional freedom. Weekly episodes on YouTube (@leavingcrazytown) and all major podcast platforms.

Do you realize you're still carrying grief from 20 years ago?Sarah, Amy Liz Harrison, and Erin Lane break down The Grief Recovery Handbook by John James and Russell Friedman in this vulnerable Boozeless Book Club episode. They explore how unresolved grief shows up in codependency patterns, relationship addiction, people-pleasing, and chronic activation. From childhood friendship losses to miscarriage to sexual assault to empty nest, the Crazy Cats share what happened when they actually wrote completion letters and made their grief timelines. This episode is for anyone who thought they didn't have anything to grieve or has been white-knuckling their way through loss for decades.KEY TAKEAWAYSGrief isn't just about death. It includes job loss, friendship shifts, miscarriage, divorce, empty nest, career changes, and even losing who you thought you were.The Grief Recovery Handbook recommends creating a timeline of losses from birth to now, then writing completion letters that include positives, negatives, emotional impact statements, and unsaid things.Unresolved grief can show up as depression, addiction, relationship addiction, compulsive busyness, fear of intimacy, detachment, physical problems, and a general lack of aliveness.Women especially carry unprocessed grief from childhood friendship losses, which can activate us when our own kids experience rejection or exclusion.Completing grief doesn't mean forgetting. It means creating space for new life without being haunted by old pain.GUEST BIOSAmy Liz Harrison is a writer, speaker, and recovery advocate. Mother of eight, she brings honesty and humor to conversations about faith, family, and healing.Erin Lane is a writer and storyteller navigating grief, motherhood, and recovery with vulnerability and grace.RESOURCES & LINKSThe Grief Recovery Handbook by John James and Russell FriedmanNotable Quote"We pathologize grief. We don't make space for this normal process. All human beings experience it, yet there's no space for it." — SarahConnect With UsDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.comIf you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown.Hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud. Codependency healing with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up.For educational and entertainment purposes only. Not a substitute for professional mental health treatment.

In this episode, Sarah shares how the death of her 20-year-old goldfish Joe triggered a full codependency relapse as she obsessed over whether his tank mate Jeff was lonely. Finn and Sarah dive into how we project our own unprocessed feelings onto others including our pets and create suffering where none exists.KEY TAKEAWAYSCodependency involves obsessive thinking about others similar to how addiction involves obsessive thinking about substancesWe often project our own unmet emotional needs onto others including pets and make up stories about what they needThe question to ask yourself when you start obsessing is what am I feeling right now and what story am I making upOur codependent behaviors usually start with our own unprocessed emotions not the other person's actual needsProjection can happen with anyone in our lives from romantic partners to children to petsNOTABLE QUOTE"The thing why codependency is awful is it doesn't work for either person. All it does is affect the relationship and it kills us. We go down the tubes with them." — Dr. Sarah MichaudConnect With UsWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.comBuy the Book: Co-CrazyIf you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown.Hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud. Codependency healing with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up.For educational and entertainment purposes only. Not a substitute for professional mental health treatment.

Ever wonder why your pet seems cranky despite all your care?In this eye-opening episode, Sarah and Finn respond to a letter from Bentley, a dog struggling with his codependent owner's over-helping behaviors. Through Bentley's story, they explore how codependent patterns show up in pet relationships and why "helping" can actually harm those we love most.KEY TAKEAWAYSCodependent behavior with pets mirrors parent-child dynamics where we fix feelings instead of allowing themOver-helping pets (or people) removes their opportunity to build self-esteem through their own accomplishmentsWhen we focus on everyone else's needs while ignoring our own, resentment and anger build upBoundaries may start out harsh when we're not used to setting them, but they can be refined with practicePack animals need to interact with their peers, not just be attached to one humanTrue helping means allowing others to experience consequences and build their own confidenceNOTABLE QUOTE"We are not responsible for other people's thoughts, feelings, and behaviors. The most important thing is to notice what is happening for me and what do I need." — Dr. Sarah MichaudConnect With UsWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.comBuy the Book: Co-CrazyIf you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown.Hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud. Codependency healing with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up.For educational and entertainment purposes only. Not a substitute for professional mental health treatment.

Do you stay when someone you love is spiraling — or do you walk away?Sarah and Finn sit down with Alex Konicke, author of Evil Among Us, to talk about a family tragedy no one saw coming — and the mental health system that failed them. Alex's older brother Zach struggled with addiction, mental illness, and escalating behavior that culminated in murder and arson. This is a raw conversation about codependency, boundaries, community, and what happens when love isn't enough to save someone.Key TakeawaysMental illness often looks like addiction — and both get missed until it's too lateFamilies can enable and protect out of love — and still end up in dangerCalling 9-1-1 creates a record — and can be the difference between intervention and tragedyGrief isn't linear — it spirals, and everyone processes it differentlyCommunity, therapy, and sharing your story are essential for survival after traumaGuest BioAlex Konicke is the author of Evil Among Us, a memoir about love, loss, mental health, and survival. After losing his mother in a family tragedy involving mental illness and violence, Alex became an advocate for mental health awareness and the importance of boundaries in crisis situations. He lives with his wife and stepchildren and continues to share his story to help others facing similar pain.Resources and LinksBook: Evil Among Us by Alex Konicke — available on AmazonWebsite: alexkonicke.comConnect with Alex on Facebook and InstagramNotable Quote"Just because someone is crazy doesn't mean they're dumb — and just because you love them doesn't mean you're safe."— Alex KonickeConnect With UsDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.comIf you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown — and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery — with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up — we're leaving CrazyTown.This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health treatment. If you're struggling, please seek support from a licensed professional.

Is your pet tired of being your emotional support system?In this hilarious and insightful episode, Sarah and Finn read a letter from Frank the Cat, who's fed up with being his owner's emotional bandaid during trauma documentaries. Through Frank's story, they explore how codependent patterns show up even in our relationships with pets and offer practical advice for setting healthy boundaries.KEY TAKEAWAYSYou're not responsible for anyone else's thoughts, feelings, and behaviors - including your pet's comfort with your emotional needsSetting boundaries might feel harsh at first, but it's necessary for healthy relationshipsWhen we stop rescuing others, they're forced to look at their own issues and find real solutionsAsk yourself "What do I need and want in this situation?" rather than automatically caretakingEven pets need freedom from being someone's emotional support systemNOTABLE QUOTE"You are not responsible for what your owner feels or says, and if he needs to watch a trauma documentary to heal his trauma, then you can just go back into the sunbeam." — Dr. Sarah MichaudConnect With UsWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.comBuy the Book: Co-CrazyIf you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown.Hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud. Codependency healing with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up.For educational and entertainment purposes only. Not a substitute for professional mental health treatment.

Do you still carry shame from things you did back then?Finn and Dr. Sarah both hit major sobriety milestones — and they get raw about what's changed in recovery and what still needs work. They share humiliating stories from active addiction, talk about the gift of self-compassion, and remind us that recovery isn't about perfection. It's about not carrying the old you like a life sentence.Key TakeawaysRecovery gives you the ability to laugh at your past without carrying the shame of itCompassion for yourself is just as important as compassion for others — maybe moreThe things you work on in long-term recovery weren't even on your radar in active addictionYour bottom is your bottom — inside job or outside consequences, it's validForgiveness for who you were is part of the journey, not a luxuryNotable Quote"I do not wish to shut the door on that past. I actually think it's quite funny how ridiculous we were, even though it still brings up shame." — FinnConnect With UsDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.comIf you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we're leaving CrazyTown.*This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health treatment. If you're struggling, please seek support from a licensed professional.

Do you drink to numb pain you can't name?Nicole Cameron endured six pregnancy losses while her alcoholism spiraled—each miscarriage deepening her denial, her isolation, and her belief that something was fundamentally wrong with her. Her husband begged her to get help. Adoption agencies turned her away. And still, she couldn't stop drinking. Until one phone call changed everything. Now 18 years sober, Nicole is an embodiment coach helping women heal trauma they've been carrying in their bodies for decades. In this raw, unfiltered conversation, she and Sarah talk about what happens when grief gets compounded by addiction, why women fall through the cracks, how her marriage survived, and what it actually takes to feel your feelings without medicating them away.Key TakeawaysCompounded grief accelerates: Each unprocessed loss makes the next one harder to bear—and easier to medicateYour body keeps the score: Trauma from pregnancy loss, abandonment, and addiction doesn't go away until you give it voice and movementThe sixth miscarriage without drinking: Nicole's first sober pregnancy loss became a turning point—painful, but freeShame lives in silence: Women with children feel guilty, women without feel judged, and nobody talks about miscarriage openly enoughEmbodiment is healing: Moving meditation and somatic practices helped Nicole release decades of body-stored traumaGUEST BIONicole Cameron is an embodiment life coach and licensed Ish Tara teacher based in Calgary, Canada. With 18 years of sobriety, Nicole specializes in helping women heal from compounded grief, addiction, and trauma by reconnecting to their bodies through movement, breath, and nervous system regulation. After surviving six pregnancy losses and hitting her bottom with alcoholism, Nicole now guides women who feel disconnected, stuck in patterns, or numb to rediscover themselves from the body up.RESOURCES AND LINKSCoach With Nicole: www.coachingwithnicole.caFollow Nicole on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn: @coachwitnicoleNOTABLE QUOTE"I was more full of glee and happiness that I did not drink, that I didn't self-medicate, that I actually felt it all—and it was hard, but there was a lot of freedom in that hardness." — Nicole CameronCONNECT WITH USDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.comIf you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we're leaving CrazyTown.This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health treatment. If you're struggling, please seek support from a licensed professional.

In this Boozeless Book Club episode of Leaving CrazyTown, Amy Liz Harrison and Dr. Sarah Michaud take a deep, thoughtful dive into Many Roads, One Journey: Moving Beyond the 12 Steps by Charlotte Davis Kasl. Together, they explore how rigidity, fear-based recovery messaging, and one-size-fits-all approaches can unintentionally limit healing—especially for women and people with histories of codependency or religious trauma. With honesty, nuance, and compassion, they discuss how to keep what works in traditional recovery models while making room for choice, discernment, and self-trust.Key TakeawaysRecovery loses power when it becomes rigid or fear-basedOne person’s path is not a universal blueprintWomen often need self-trust and agency, not further self-reductionAccountability and compassion can coexistThinking for yourself is not dangerous—it’s necessaryKey Timestamps[02:00] Why this book feels “meaty” and challenging[07:00] Rigidity, fear, and belonging in recovery[13:00] Why women’s recovery needs differ[20:00] Kasl’s expanded steps and codependency healing[49:00] “Many roads” and the danger of “only one way”Notable ResourcesMany Roads, One Journey: Moving Beyond the 12 Steps — Charlotte Davis KaslWomen, Sex & Addiction — Charlotte Davis KaslDr. Sarah Michaud — Co-CrazyIf this episode resonated, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with someone who needs permission to find their own way.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

Do you even know who you are anymore?It's Sarah's and Finn's anniversary month — time in recovery — and they're reflecting on three major ways they've changed since the using days. From self-reliance to honesty to actually feeling their feelings, this episode gets real about what shifts when you start doing the work. No perfect recovery stories here — just two people noticing what's different, what's better, and what still needs work.Key TakeawaysSelf-reliance used to mean controlling everything and everyone — now it means trusting something bigger than yourselfAvoiding feelings isn't the same as managing them — recovery teaches you to sit with discomfort instead of escaping itYou can't have real relationships if nobody actually knows you — honesty and boundaries make connection possibleTaking responsibility doesn't mean blaming yourself for everything — it means owning your actions and choicesRecovery isn't about perfection — it's about catching yourself, repairing, and trying againNotable Quote"I was willing to take responsibility, but I was blind to the truth of what was actually going on." — FinnConnect With UsDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.comIf you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we're leaving CrazyTown.*This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health treatment. If you're struggling, please seek support from a licensed professional.

Can you imagine having sex without booze… or does that thought make you want to crawl out of your skin?In this episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah get honest about sober sex — what it looked like in addiction versus what it requires in recovery. From detachment, low standards, and seeking validation to body image fears, rejection anxiety, and learning discernment, they unpack the uncomfortable shift from numb hookups to real intimacy.They explore how addiction blurred choice, how early sobriety brings a flood of insecurity, and why staying in your body is both terrifying and transformative. Because sober sex isn’t about performance — it’s about presence.And presence requires vulnerability.TakeawaysIn addiction, sex is often about validation, fear, and proving worth — not connectionSober sex brings up body image issues and rejection fears that substances once numbedDiscernment is a recovery skill — you get to choose who you’re intimate with Casual relationships can activate codependent patterns if you ignore your own truth• Real intimacy requires vulnerability, honesty, and embracing discomfortFun and play are possible in sober sex — it doesn’t have to be heavy or performativeNotable ResourcesDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/If this conversation resonated, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown — and share it with someone navigating intimacy in recovery.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery — with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up — we’re leaving CrazyTown.

In this Boozeless Book Club episode, Dr. Sarah Michaud and Amy Liz Harrison dive deep into Wake Up by Jen Hatmaker—a book that challenges rigid belief systems, recovery dogma, and fear-based spirituality. Together, they unpack what happens when programs meant to heal start replacing one form of control with another, especially for women navigating sobriety, faith, and codependency. This is an honest, nuanced conversation about reclaiming discernment, self-trust, and emotional freedom—without throwing out what truly works.Key TakeawaysRigid recovery rules often mirror the same power dynamics we’re trying to heal fromWomen in recovery frequently need self-trust—not ego reductionFear-based spirituality undermines emotional sobrietyBoth accountability and personal agency can coexistThinking for yourself is not a relapse—it’s growthKey Timestamps[02:10] Why this book felt “meaty” and activating[07:45] Trading one dogma for another in recovery[14:30] Fear-based faith, shame, and loss of self[22:10] When “look at your part” becomes self-blame[30:40] Holding nuance without burning bridgesNotable ResourcesWake Up — Jen HatmakerDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co Crazyhttps://drsarahmichaud.com/If this episode stirred something in you, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with someone learning to trust themselves again.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

Is it love… or is it codependency dressed up as romance?In this Valentine’s Day episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah break down the real differences between healthy love and codependent attachment. Drawing from their own relationships (yes, they’re both in love right now), they unpack the subtle ways we confuse control, people-pleasing, emotional blame, and conflict avoidance with “being loving.”From emotional regulation and over-offering to relentless self-sacrifice and white lies, this episode gives you three clear distinctions between love and codependency—plus the hard truths that deepen intimacy instead of destroying it.Because real love doesn’t require you to disappear.And it definitely doesn’t require you to manage someone else’s emotions.TakeawaysLove means regulating your own emotions instead of blaming your partnerCodependency often shows up as fixing, over-managing, or forcing helpAsking once and trusting the answer builds respect and intimacySelf-sacrifice without boundaries leads to resentment and rageHonest, difficult conversations create deeper connection than conflict avoidance ever willNotable ResourcesDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/If you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

What does subtle codependency actually look like in real life? In this kickoff episode of CrazyTown Confessions, Finn and Dr. Sarah pull back the curtain on their own sneaky patterns—manipulation disguised as care, irritation masked as concern, and the quiet control tactics that slip in when we’re trying to soothe ourselves.From storm anxiety and “helpful suggestions” to shoulder injuries, insurance battles, and unspoken resentment, this episode shows how codependency often hides in the smallest moments. With humor, humility, and hard-earned insight, Finn and Sarah model what it looks like to catch yourself in the act—and choose something healthier instead.Because recovery isn’t about perfection. It’s about awareness… and doing it differently next time.TakeawaysCodependency is often subtle and self-soothing, not dramatic or obviousManipulation can hide inside “care” and good intentionsIrritation is often a sign of unspoken fear or unmet needsAwareness is the first step toward changing behaviorRecovery means taking responsibility for your emotional experience—not outsourcing itNotable ResourcesDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/If you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

Episode DescriptionWhat happens when you’ve done “everything right” in recovery — and it still isn’t enough? In this deeply honest conversation,  Dr. Sarah sits down with author Patti Clark to explore long-term sobriety, relapse after 13 years, emotional bottoms, motherhood shame, loneliness, and the quiet moments that can pull us back into addiction. Patti shares the raw truth behind her relapse, the power of connection, and why recovery is about becoming whole — not perfect.TakeawaysWhy relapse often begins long before the drinkHow loneliness can become an emotional bottomThe hidden shame many mothers carry in addiction and recoveryWhy connection — not discipline — sustains sobrietyHow creativity and writing can support emotional healingKey Timestamps01:00 Patti’s recovery origin story and family alcoholism11:00Loneliness, disconnection, and leaving meetings13:00Relapsing after 13 years sober18:00Motherhood, shame, and hidden drinking24:00Emotional bottoms and forgiveness37:00Writing The Recovery Road Trip and “now what?” recoveryNotable Resources & Guest LinksThe Recovery Road Trip by Patti ClarkWebsite: https://pattyclark.orgTikTok: @recoveringwomanInstagram/Facebook: Patti Clark, AuthorIf this episode resonated, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown — and share it with someone navigating recovery, relapse, or emotional burnout.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

How often do you say “I’m fine” when you’re anything but? In this episode of Leaving CrazyTown, Finn and Dr. Sarah unpack the many meanings behind those two deceptively simple words—and why asking for help can feel harder than suffering in silence. With humor, honesty, and lived recovery wisdom, they explore what makes some requests easy, others terrifying, and how emotional pain often hides behind self-sufficiency. This conversation is for anyone learning how to name their needs without shame and step out of survival mode.Key Takeaways“I’m fine” is often a protective shield—not the truthAsking for help feels easier when it benefits others, not ourselvesIllness and emotional pain trigger deep autonomy and boundary issuesRecovery trains us to ask for help—but only in specific lanesEmotional honesty requires safety, timing, and trustKey Timestamps[00:01] What “I’m fine” really stands for[00:03] Why service-based asks feel safer[00:05] Illness, isolation, and control[00:07] Emotional pain and selective vulnerability[00:09] The recovery paradox: trained to ask, still afraidNotable ResourcesDr. Sarah Michaud — Author of Co CrazyWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/Follow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeIf this episode hit close to home, subscribe, rate, and share it with someone who’s tired of pretending they’re fine.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

The holidays have a way of turning up the volume on codependency — expectations, guilt, fear of disappointing others, and the pressure to “just make it work.” In this honest holiday wrap-up, Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud review what actually helped, what didn’t, and how clear communication became the difference between resentment and relief. From navigating COVID plans to managing adult kids’ expectations, this episode offers real-life examples of boundaries in action — imperfect, human, and effective.TakeawaysClear communication prevents resentment — even when it feels uncomfortableBeing honest about what you want doesn’t make you selfishBoundaries work best when you release the need to control others’ reactionsAvoiding discomfort creates long-term emotional “ick”Holidays don’t require self-abandonment to be meaningfulKey Timestamps[00:01:00] Why being “wishy-washy” fuels codependency[00:02:30] Navigating COVID, family expectations, and guilt[00:04:00] Saying what you want without managing others’ feelings[00:06:30] Holiday spirals and parental guilt[00:07:30] Choosing clarity over emotional chaosNotable ResourcesDr. Sarah Michaud — Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/If this episode resonated, subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who’s still unpacking their holiday “stuff.”Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

Episode DescriptionWhat happens when peak physical endurance collides with life-altering diagnosis? In this powerful episode of Leaving CrazyTown, Dr. Sarah Michaud sits down with Dr. Jeffrey Reynolds—nonprofit CEO, Ironman triathlete, and two-time cancer survivor—to unpack what it really means to do hard things. Jeffrey shares how endurance training prepared him for cancer treatment, how vulnerability reshaped his relationships, and why strength isn’t about avoiding fear—it’s about learning to run alongside it. This is an honest, grounded conversation about mortality, resilience, masculinity, and choosing presence over panic.Key TakeawaysWhy fitness is not the same as healthHow endurance training builds emotional grit—not just physical staminaThe hidden cost (and gift) of vulnerability, especially for menWhat cancer teaches us about priorities, presence, and legacyWhy letting people help you is sometimes a gift to themKey Timestamps02:00 – From a spontaneous 5K to Ironman training08:00 – “I did Ironman with cancer”14:00 – Fitness vs. health: an important distinction23:00 – Vulnerability, masculinity, and male friendships37:00 – Rest, burnout, and rethinking productivity41:00 – Legacy, meaning, and what truly mattersNotable Resources & LinksBook: Every Mile Matters by Dr. Jeffrey ReynoldsWebsite: EveryMileMatters.comAuthor Site: JeffreyReynolds.comIf this episode resonated, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with someone facing something hard.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown

What if the fastest way out of resentment, anxiety, and emotional spirals was the one thing most of us avoid? In this episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah break down why speaking directly to the person who upset you is one of the most powerful tools in codependency recovery. With real-life stories, humor, and practical guidance, they show how confronting discomfort leads to clarity, intimacy, and emotional freedom—and why avoiding the conversation costs you far more in the long run.TakeawaysMaking up stories in your head creates resentment, not safetyAvoidance is a core codependency pattern that keeps you stuckSpeaking directly builds intimacy—even when it feels riskyPreparation matters: regulate before you communicateShort-term discomfort creates long-term emotional freedomKey Timestamps[00:01] Why we avoid the person who upset us[00:03] The danger of making up stories in your head[00:05] Deciding if a relationship is worth addressing[00:07] How to prepare emotionally before the conversation[00:10] Speaking without blame or defensiveness[00:12] Choosing courage over gossip and resentmentNotable ResourcesDr. Sarah Michaud – Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/If this episode hit home, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with someone who’s been stuck rehearsing conversations instead of having them.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

Episode DescriptionIf you’ve ever rushed in with advice when someone you love was hurting—or felt shut down when you just wanted to be heard—this episode is for you. Finn and Dr. Sarah break down one of the most common (and damaging) traits of codependency: the need to fix other people’s feelings. Through real-life stories, honest reflection, and practical tools, they explain why fixing kills intimacy, what it creates instead, and how learning to listen can transform your relationships.Key TakeawaysTrying to fix someone’s feelings often makes them feel unseen and aloneMost people don’t want solutions—they want validation and presenceFixing is usually about managing your discomfort, not helping themAsking “Do you want support or feedback?” can change everythingListening builds intimacy; fixing creates resentmentKey Timestamps[01:00] — The core codependency trait: trying to fix people[02:00] — Finn’s story: when advice shut down connection[04:00] — Why validation matters more than solutions[07:00] — Asking what someone needs instead of assuming[08:30] — Fixing as emotional self-protection[10:00] — How fixing creates distance and resentmentNotable ResourcesDr. Sarah Michaud — Author of Co CrazyLeaving CrazyTown Podcast on YouTubeWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/If this episode hit home, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with someone who’s tired of feeling unheard.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into dysfunctional relationship patterns, emotional recovery, and reclaiming your voice—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

What happens when you quit drinking—but life still feels unbearable? In this raw, deeply validating conversation, Dr. Sarah Michaud sits down with sobriety coach, author, and creator of the Soberful podcast with Veronica Valli, to unpack the missing link in recovery: emotional sobriety. From early addiction and fear-driven coping to codependent relationships and subconscious attachment wounds, Veronica shares why so many people get sober yet still feel stuck—and what actually creates lasting freedom. This episode is for anyone who’s sober, sober-curious, or emotionally exhausted from repeating the same relationship patterns and wondering, “Why am I still hurting?”Key TakeawaysWhy sobriety without emotional recovery can feel worse over timeHow fear—not alcohol—is often the real addictionThe connection between codependency, attachment wounds, and relapseWhy movement and the body are non-negotiable in healingWhat “emotional sobriety” actually looks like in real lifeKey Timestamps[00:02:00] Veronica’s early drinking and fear-based coping[00:06:00] The moment she realized fear—not alcohol—was the root[00:08:30] Emotional sobriety vs. white-knuckling recovery[00:11:30] Why relationships stay chaotic even after getting sober[00:14:30] The five pillars of emotional sobriety[00:18:00] Why movement and the body matter more than we thinkNotable Resources & Guest LinksVeronica Valli — Sobriety Coach & AuthorBook: SoberfulPodcast & YouTube: SoberfulIf this episode resonated, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with someone who’s sober but still struggling.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

In this episode of Leaving CrazyTown, Finn and Dr. Sarah break down a deceptively simple but life-changing concept: there is nothing to defend. Through humor, real-life role-play, and honest reflection, they explore how defensiveness, ghosting, and emotional shutdown sabotage connection—and how validation, curiosity, and clarity create safety instead. If you’ve ever felt misunderstood, reactive, or stuck in communication loops, this conversation offers a grounded path out of CrazyTown and into emotional freedom.Key TakeawaysDefensiveness blocks connection—even when your intentions are goodValidating someone’s feelings doesn’t mean agreeing with their storyTelling yourself a story isn’t the same as telling the truthClear, direct communication prevents resentment from leaking sidewaysHealing codependency starts with emotional responsibility, not blameKey Timestamps[00:01] — Introducing “There Is Nothing to Defend”[00:02] — What defensiveness actually sounds like in real life[00:04] — Ghosting, shutdowns, and passive aggression explained[00:05] — Sharing feelings without blame[00:06] — Validation vs. agreement: the crucial distinctionNotable Resources & LinksDr. Sarah Michaud — Author of Co CrazyWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/Follow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeIf this episode hit home, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with someone who’s tired of defending themselves just to feel understood.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

In this raw, relatable episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah unpack two deceptively simple moments that sent them spiraling onto the “crazy train.” What begins as a casual invite — coffee or walk? — becomes a full-blown internal crisis about likability, expectations, and imagined judgments. Together, they reveal how codependency sneaks into everyday interactions, why old fears get activated, and how to pause long enough to choose clarity over chaos. Expect laughter, truth bombs, and practical tools for stepping off the train and back into your life.TakeawaysCodependency often shows up in micro-moments, not just big relational crises.If a simple question feels hard to answer, you may be basing your response on imagined reactions, not your actual preference.Old stories (like fear of being “lazy,” “difficult,” or “high maintenance”) often drive our present-day behavior.Pausing before responding is a powerful tool for reclaiming agency and reducing reactivity.Progress isn’t perfection — noticing the pattern is the breakthrough.Key Timestamps[00:00] — Welcome to Leaving CrazyTown[01:00] — Finn & Sarah confess: We briefly hopped back on the crazytrain[02:00] — The “coffee or walk?” question that triggered a codependent spiral[04:00] — Imagined judgments, old fears, and why simple choices feel impossible[07:30] — How childhood conditioning shows up in adult relationships[08:30] — Why awareness — not perfection — marks healingNotable Resources / Guest LinksDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow on YouTube: @leavingcrazytownIf this episode hit home, share it with a friend who answers questions based on fear instead of preference. And don’t forget to subscribe and review — it helps more people leave CrazyTown.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

In this powerful, unfiltered conversation, Dr. Sarah sits down with The Mental Illness Happy Hour host Paul Gilmartin for an honest look at trauma, recovery, intimacy, and the long-term impact of childhood wounds. Paul shares how early emotional experiences shaped his patterns in adulthood—and how compassion, boundaries, and accountability became the tools that changed everything. Together, Paul and Sarah explore the messy, courageous work of healing from codependency, breaking survival-mode behaviors, and learning to build relationships rooted in honesty, repair, and self-respect.TakeawaysChildhood emotional wounds often shape adult patterns more deeply than we realize.Healing requires honesty, humility, and a willingness to take responsibility for our part.Boundaries are essential—not just with others but with ourselves.Intimacy becomes possible when shame decreases and self-awareness increases.Repairing ruptures in relationships builds trust and strengthens connection.Key Timestamps[00:01:00] Listening to hundreds of stories: how Paul protects his emotional battery[00:05:00] Early recovery and uncovering deeper issues beneath addiction[00:09:00] Learning boundaries, accountability, and the meaning of true intimacy[00:14:00] Communication without blame: why timing and tone matter[00:18:00] Childhood wounds, emotional responsibility & recognizing patterns[00:36:00] Why Paul still loves doing the work—and the stories that keep him going[00:42:00] Universal tools: finding language for your needs and setting respectful boundariesNotable Resources or Guest LinksPaul Gilmartin – The Mental Illness Happy HourDr. Sarah Michaud – Author of Co CrazyWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/Follow @leavingcrazytown on YouTube=Dr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co Crazy Follow @leavingcrazytown on YouTube Website: https://drsarahmichaud.com/If you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

The holidays can feel like a warm hug… or a codependent meltdown waiting to happen. In this episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah break down the five biggest shifts that help codependents survive (and seriously enjoy) the holiday season. From asking for what you actually want, to ditching rituals that don’t serve you anymore, to saying “no” without the spiral — these tools help you stop overgiving, overspending, and overextending so you can create a holiday grounded in sanity and joy.TakeawaysAsk for what you want — clarity prevents resentment.Set a spending limit early to avoid overgiving and January shame.“No” is an option — and a powerful one.Update or ditch family rituals that drain you.If you’re not having fun, you're probably abandoning yourself.Key Timestamps[00:42] Why holidays activate codependency more than anything else[02:20] Tip #1: Asking for what you want (without guilt)[04:47] Tip #2: Stopping overspending & overgiving[07:05] Tip #3: Learning to say no[11:36] Tip #4: Ditching old rituals & building new ones[13:45] Tip #5: Fun, humor, and joy as recovery toolsNotable Resources & LinksDr. Sarah Michaud — Author of Co Crazy: https://drsarahmichaud.com/Follow Leaving CrazyTown on YouTube: @leavingcrazytownShare this episode with a friend who needs permission to enjoy their holidays without losing themselves.Notable Resources Dr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co Crazy Follow @leavingcrazytown on YouTube Website: https://drsarahmichaud.com/If you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

In this Leaving CrazyTown x Eternally Amy crossover, Dr. Sarah Michaud joins Amy Liz Harrison for a Boozeless Book Club deep dive into Elizabeth Gilbert’s “Eat, Pray, Love” aftermath and the complex layers of love addiction, codependency, and emotional recovery.Together, they unpack how relationships can become the new addiction — and how self-awareness, radical honesty, and recovery tools can pull us back from the brink. It’s a raw, funny, and deeply human conversation about obsession, boundaries, and learning to let go with love.Key TakewaysCodependency isn’t care — it’s control in disguise. We rationalize, rescue, and lose ourselves believing we’re helping.Love addiction mimics substance addiction. That chemical “high” of early romance can hijack logic and keep us stuck in fantasy.Denial runs deep. Whether it’s alcohol, love, or someone else’s chaos — our minds will justify anything to avoid loss.Recovery is responsibility. Owning “my part” doesn’t mean taking all the blame — it means claiming my healing.Letting go isn’t abandonment. It’s choosing freedom over fantasy, truth over chaos, and peace over control.Key Timestamps[00:02:10] The reality of codependency: it’s not just about addicts[00:06:45] Love addiction and that early “high”[00:12:00] Denial, rationalization, and the bitters metaphor[00:22:30] The trap of self-abandonment in relationships[00:33:00] Boundaries, separation, and self-responsibility[00:46:00] Recovery tools from the Big Book that still hold true[00:52:00] Owning your part, making the call, and telling the truthAmyiz Harrison “Eat, Pray, Love” and related worksWomen, Sex, and Addiction by Charlotte KaslCo Crazy by Dr. Sarah MichaudAl-Anon & SLAA resourcesLet Them Theory by Mel Robbins (contrast discussed)Resources & MentionsAmy Liz Harrison “Eat, Pray, Love” and related worksWomen, Sex, and Addiction by Charlotte KaslCo Crazy by Dr. Sarah MichaudAl-Anon & SLAA resourcesLet Them Theory by Mel Robbins (contrast discussed)If this episode hit home, share it with someone who’s learning to love without losing themselves. 🧠 Subscribe, rate, and review Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown wherever you listen — and join the conversation on YouTube @leavingcrazytown.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. If you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind. 🔗 Website: drsarahmichaud.com | YouTube: @leavingcrazytown

This week, Finn and Dr. Sarah welcome writer and recovery advocate Jason Mayo, author of In Case of Emergency: Break Childhood and founder of Sober Not Subtle. In this honest and often hilarious conversation, Jason opens up about the hidden trauma of childhood divorce, the messy intersection of mental health and sobriety, and the art of starting over without self-destructing. Together they unpack perfectionism, parenting, depression, and why “connection is the opposite of addiction.”Key Takeaways:Trauma isn’t just tragedy — it’s the quiet disconnection that shapes how we love and cope.“I’m not a bad person getting good; I’m a sick person getting well.”Mental health and recovery aren’t separate stories — they’re one healing arc.Boundaries are love in action: “No” is a full sentence.Connection and purpose are the antidotes to isolation and burnout.Timestamps: [00:01:00] Jason’s recovery story — from emotional bottom to connection. [00:06:00] Marriage in sobriety and rebuilding trust after addiction. [00:13:00] The “three C’s” of marriage — a hilarious family lesson. [00:15:00] The ACEs test and realizing childhood divorce as trauma. [00:18:00] What trauma really is — and why it never fully disappears. [00:25:00] Mental health crisis and what real support looks like. [00:31:00] How sharing pain turns into purpose. [00:35:00] Why men struggle to talk about emotions — and how to start. [00:41:00] Recovery, community, and the healing power of connection. [00:44:00] Jason’s top two recovery tools: boundaries and purpose.Resources Mentioned:In Case of Emergency: Break Childhood by Jason MayoSoberNotSubtle.comCo-Crazy by Dr. Sarah MichaudGabor Maté – The Myth of NormalPeter Levine – Waking the TigerDr. Sarah Michaud, PsyD — Author of Co CrazyLeaving CrazyTown YouTube ChannelWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/If this conversation hit home, share it with a friend in recovery who’s learning to set boundaries or find their voice.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope.Subscribe, rate, and review—and share with a friend who’s ready to leave CrazyTown.

Shame spirals: we all know them, we all hate them, and most of us try to outrun them. In this raw, revealing, and hilariously honest conversation, Finn and Dr. Sarah break down what a shame spiral really is, where these intense emotional reactions come from, and why they often have deep roots in childhood patterns. Using Sarah’s real-life moment of “F-bomb shame” as a jumping-off point, the duo explores how old wounds get activated, why our reactions can feel so outsized, and what it takes to recover with compassion, clarity, and grounded truth.TakeawaysShame spirals often signal past trauma or early developmental wounds.Overreactions usually mean the present moment has touched an old story.Self-compassion is the antidote to shame—not self-punishment.“Pull the lens back”: most shame triggers aren’t life-altering in realityHealing requires understanding, kindness, and choosing not to re-abuse yourself.Key Timestamps[00:00] – Welcome back: what shame spirals feel like[01:00] – Recognizing hidden vs. overt shame[02:00] – The “speaking regret” shame spiral[03:00] – Sarah’s F-bomb video story & activation[06:00] – Childhood memories that amplify present shame[10:00] – Tools: pulling back the lens, practicing self-compassion[12:00] – Finn’s shame around talking too much in groups[15:00] – Trauma origins of shame patterns[18:00] – Healing, compassion, and the parent-you-needed approachNotable Resources & Guest LinksDr. Sarah Michaud, PsyD — Author of Co CrazyLeaving CrazyTown YouTube ChannelWebsite: https://drsarahmichaud.com/Subscribe, rate, and review Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown.Share this episode with someone who spirals into shame and needs real-talk tools to get out.Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud. With humor, honesty, and a healthy dose of clinical insight, they tackle the chaos of dysfunctional relationships and offer real tools for healing. Subscribe wherever you listen and follow @LeavingCrazyTown on social media for more real-talk recovery content.

When we don’t know how to ask for what we need, we manipulate, avoid, or overextend. In this powerful and painfully relatable episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah unpack how fear of rejection fuels codependent behaviors—and how to finally break the cycle. From “polite lying” to people-pleasing to emotional seduction, they explore what drives us to control outcomes instead of asking directly for what we want. The truth? Authentic connection only happens when we stop trying to manage other people’s feelings and start telling the truth about our own.TakeawaysFear of rejection is the root of many manipulative and codependent behaviors.You can’t build trust when your words and energy don’t match—people feel the fear underneath.Saying “no” to a request isn’t rejection of you; it’s just a no to that thing.Authentic requests lead to authentic relationships. Manipulation always breeds distance.Recovery means tolerating discomfort, setting clear boundaries, and staying in your own hula hoop.Key Timestamps[00:01:00] Childhood patterns that teach us to manipulate instead of ask[00:03:00] Fear of rejection and why we avoid hearing “no”[00:06:00] How manipulation erodes trust and safety in relationships[00:08:00] The energy of fear—why people feel dishonesty before they hear it[00:12:00] Taking risks: why direct requests are a practice in courage and recoveryNotable Resources Dr. Sarah Michaud’s book Co CrazyFollow Finn and Sarah on YouTube: @LeavingCrazyTownAdditional tools and resources: www.drsarahmichaud.comIf you loved this episode, subscribe and leave a review—it helps others find the show. And share it with that friend who always says “I’m fine” but clearly isn’t.Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. This isn’t your average recovery show—it’s part laughter, part therapy, and all truth. Subscribe wherever you listen and join us as we break out of CrazyTown—one honest conversation at a time.

In this powerful and deeply human episode, Dr. Sarah sits down with Jamie H from Tennessee — a recovering alcoholic who turned his pain into purpose by helping women rebuild their lives through sober living. From childhood trauma and abuse to relapse, surrender, and radical forgiveness, Jamie shares how accepting responsibility for his healing set him free. His story is raw, redemptive, and full of hope — proof that no matter how dark it gets, recovery offers a way through.TakeawaysForgiveness isn’t weakness — it’s freedom.“As long as I don’t drink or drug, I have a chance to get to the other side.”Recovery begins with accepting the truth of who we areThe hardest words in healing: “It’s me, not them.”Pain from the past can be transformed through surrender and service.Key Timestamps [00:00] Welcome from Dr. Sarah — setting up today’s conversation [02:00] Jamie’s first surrender and relapse story [05:00] Accepting addiction as a mental illness [09:00] The cost of denial — relapse and loss [11:00] Jamie’s childhood trauma and family history [16:00] Betrayal, forgiveness, and seeing through new “spiritual glasses” [20:00] Letting go of resentment and reclaiming power [27:00] Jamie’s top tips for staying sober — no matter whatNotable Resources or Guest LinksDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyJamie H’s Women’s Sober Living Community (Tennessee)Follow @LeavingCrazyTown on YouTubeCTA If this story moved you, share it with someone who’s ready to let go of resentment and find freedom in forgiveness. Subscribe, rate, and review — your support helps others discover hope beyond codependency.Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown is the raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud — two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Come for the truth bombs, stay for the laughter, and leave with a renewed sense of agency.

In this episode of Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown, Finn and Dr. Sarah get real about how communication breaks down when codependency takes the wheel. From the habitual “I don’t care” to the evasive “it’s complicated,” they unpack the language patterns that keep us disconnected from our true feelings. Through personal stories, humor, and practical insights, they reveal how to move from confusion to clarity—and why speaking your truth is a radical act of recovery.TakeawaysCommon codependent phrases like “I don’t care,” “I don’t know,” and “it’s complicated” often mask fear or avoidance.Communication clarity begins with self-awareness—notice what you’re really feeling before responding.Detachment from emotions is normal in early recovery; reconnecting takes intention and patience.Learning to express needs and preferences (even simple ones like dinner choices) builds emotional confidence.Honest language strengthens boundaries and self-trust.Key Timestamps [00:02:00] The four codependent communication habits: “I don’t care,” “I’m confused,” “I don’t know,” “It’s complicated.” [00:04:30] How “I don’t know” masks fear of judgment and emotional vulnerability. [00:07:00] The childhood roots of people-pleasing and early silence. [00:10:00] Everyday examples of communication shutdown—how to spot and shift them. [00:13:00] Why “It’s complicated” really means “I’m afraid to decide.” [00:15:00] Final reflections: awareness, clarity, and courage to speak your truth.Notable Resources or Guest LinksDr. Sarah Michaud, Author of Co CrazyFollow @leavingcrazytown on YouTubeWebsite: drsarahmichaud.comIf you loved this conversation, subscribe, rate, and review Leaving CrazyTown—and share it with a friend ready to reclaim their voice and leave confusion behind.Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.

Ever find yourself trapped in a spiral of overexplaining when you really just want to say no? In this raw and hilarious episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah unpack what they call “The Codependent No” — those long, apologetic responses that avoid clarity, create confusion, and leave everyone frustrated. From miscommunication marathons to guilt-driven maybes, they reveal why saying no clearly is one of the most powerful recovery tools there is. Get ready to laugh, cringe, and finally free yourself from the need to please.Takeaways“No” is a complete sentence — clarity is kindness.Overexplaining often creates more disconnection, not less.Feeling guilty when you say no? That’s codependency talking.Practice saying no with safe people and tolerating discomfort.Saying yes when you mean no leads to resentment, anxiety, and burnout.Key Timestamps[00:00] – The “Codependent No”: what it is and why we all do it[02:00] – “I’d rather not” and other clear communication tools[05:00] – Overexplaining, miscommunication, and frustration[08:00] – Guilt, boundaries, and the false responsibility trap[11:00] – Practicing honest no’s with safe people[12:00] – The consequences of saying yes when you mean noNotable Resources & Guest LinksDr. Sarah Michaud, PsyD – Author of Co Crazy: One Psychologist’s Recovery from Codependency and AddictionLeaving CrazyTown YouTube Channel – Watch full episodes hereFollow Finn & Dr. Sarah on Instagram and YouTube @LeavingCrazyTown🎧 Subscribe, rate, and review Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. 💬 Share this episode with someone who’s ready to practice a confident, guilt-free “No.”Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud. With humor, honesty, and a healthy dose of clinical insight, they tackle the chaos of dysfunctional relationships and offer real tools for healing. Subscribe wherever you listen and follow @LeavingCrazyTown on social media for more real-talk recovery content.

Andrea Ashley, host of The Adult Child Podcast, joins  Dr. Sarah Michaud for a no-filter conversation about the messy middle of recovery—the part where you’re learning to stop saving everyone else and finally start saving yourself. From unraveling childhood patterns to setting adult boundaries that stick, Andrea shares how she turned her pain into purpose and built a platform for fellow Adult Children ready to get real about healing. Expect laughter, raw truth, and practical tools for leaving CrazyTown behind.TakeawaysHealing starts with awareness—and the courage to see your story differently.Codependency recovery is about identity reclamation, not perfection.Boundaries are an act of self-love, not punishment.The inner child needs validation, not discipline.Humor and honesty are recovery tools, too.Key Timestamps[00:03:20] Andrea shares her journey from dysfunction to discovery.[00:10:45] The moment she realized codependency was running her life.[00:18:00] Breaking the shame spiral: reparenting the inner child.[00:27:15] The truth about boundaries and backlash.[00:36:50] Building The Adult Child Podcast as a recovery resource.Notable Resources / Guest LinksAndrea Ashley: @adultchildpod | The Adult Child PodcastDr. Sarah Michaud: Author of Co CrazyFollow Finn & Sarah: @leavingcrazytownCTASubscribe and leave a review! Share this episode with someone ready to ditch codependency and find freedom.Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown is hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud—two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Tune in each week for truth bombs, laughter, and tools for emotional freedom.

Finn and Sarah get real (and really funny) about health anxiety—the mental habit of turning every ache into catastrophe—and share how recovery tools like reality-checking, perspective, and self-compassion can break the spiral. You’ll hear outrageous mind-movies, why our brains escalate to “late-stage everything,” and simple practices to build a looser, friendlier relationship with your thoughts. Takeaways Thoughts are not facts; feelings are not emergencies—build space before reacting. The mind loves worst-case stories (“late stage everything”); humor shrinks their power. Reality-check: get clarity with a call or simple test before catastrophizing. Past losses/trauma can prime health anxiety; name the trigger to lower intensity. Self-permission helps: if you do overreact (ER calls, extra vet visits), meet it with compassion and learn. Key Timestamps00:00 — Welcome & “I thought it was an aneurysm” opener. 02:00 — Why the brain jumps to late-stage diagnoses. 04:05 — The dog-at-the-vet spiral (and the bill). 05:10 — The “black spot” baby story: a washcloth cure. 08:00 — Panic calls after family loss—when trauma fuels alarms. 11:10 — Tools: clarity calls, humor, and perspective practice. If this episode resonated, share it with a friend who might be stuck in their own CrazyTown—and don’t forget to subscribe for more raw recovery talk.Come for the truth bombs, stay for the laughter, and leave with a renewed sense of agency. Subscribe and review the podcast, watch on YouTube @leavingcrazytown, and share episodes with a friend who’s ready to leave CrazyTown.

In this candid episode of Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown, Finn and Dr. Sarah dig into one powerful question: Are you happy? Together, they explore how denial, fear, and codependency often keep us stuck in jobs, marriages, and patterns that quietly drain our joy. Through raw personal stories and clinical insights, they reveal why acknowledging unhappiness is the first step toward change—and how to take small, courageous steps toward true freedom.TakeawaysWhy denial is one of the biggest roadblocks to happinessHow to evaluate different “arenas” of your life with honestyThe cost of staying silent in jobs and relationshipsWhy acknowledging unhappiness is powerful—even without immediate changeHow fear and codependency keep us stuck, and how to begin breaking freeKey Timestamps[00:01:00] The big question: Are you happy?[00:03:00] The “life pie” tool for evaluating different areas of happiness[00:06:00] Finn’s story: hating his job—and finding a way to thrive[00:09:00] Marriage, denial, and the cost of staying stuck[00:12:00] The freedom in honesty: why awareness is the turning pointNotable Resources Dr. Sarah Michaud, author of Co CrazyWatch full episodes on YouTube: @leavingcrazytownIf this episode resonated, share it with a friend who might be stuck in their own CrazyTown—and don’t forget to subscribe for more raw recovery talk.Come for the truth bombs, stay for the laughter, and leave with a renewed sense of agency. Subscribe and review the podcast, watch on YouTube @leavingcrazytown, and share episodes with a friend who’s ready to leave CrazyTown.

Dr. Sarah welcomes Lori McCarthy, Executive Director at Herren Wellness, for an honest look at modern addiction treatment and the codependency patterns that shape families. From calling residents “guests” to integrating AA, SMART, DBT, CBT, Refuge, and IFS, Lori explains why flexible, community-based care matters—and how grief, parenting, and humility keep us growing. Hear why “connection is the answer,” how COVID reshaped admissions, and the single mindset she urges families to adopt: be willing to try.     Takeaways:Connection and community drive outcomes; guests hold each other accountable and staff work as one team. Herren Wellness blends modalities (AA, SMART, Refuge, DBT/CBT, IFS) to keep learning active and individualized. Post-COVID shifts: first college students, then dads, then moms—prevention slots don’t require “meeting criteria.” Codependency is universal; relationship skills are lifelong work. “Be willing to try” is the doorway for families and guests alike. Key Timestamps (approx.):00:00 – Meet Lori McCarthy & the Herren Wellness origin story05:00 – Today’s clients: anxiety, loneliness, and the social media effect 09:00 – Program design: structure + interactive learning; AA/SMART/IFS/Refuge/DBT/CBT 12:00 – Why they say “guest” (dignity, safety, wellness, family welcome)26:00 – COVID cohort waves; prevention without diagnostic thresholds38:00 – Adding a Codependency group + book box on the way 43:00 – Grief and gratitude can coexist in recovery and parenting Notable Resources or Guest Links:Herren Wellness (treatment center founded with Chris Herren)SMART Recovery, Refuge Recovery, AA/NA, IFS (context from episode) Family support: twice-weekly Zoom groups at Herren Wellness (mentioned by Lori)If this helped you, share it with one person who needs hope today and subscribe for weekly tools on codependency recovery.Leaving CrazyTown with Dr. Sarah Michaud explores how we heal codependency and build real connection—in recovery, in families, and in ourselves.

In this raw and relatable episode, Finn and Sarah unpack the sneaky ways codependency shows up as manipulation—even when we think we’re just being “nice.” From passive food suggestions to emotional baiting and over-gifting, they break down three classic behaviors that masquerade as care but actually come from fear, control, or discomfort with directness.Key Takeaways:Manipulation often hides behind passivity, politeness, or “helping.”Asking someone what they want when you’re hungry is not the same as expressing your own need.Emotional baiting ("I might get kicked out...") can trigger codependent rescuing.Over-gifting or “fixing” someone’s problem without consent undermines intimacy.True kindness is direct, respectful, and leaves space for choice.Key Timestamps: [00:01:00] – Why codependents struggle to state their needs directly [00:05:00] – Food, frustration, and the fallout of passive manipulation [00:08:00] – Emotional baiting and the illusion of connection [00:12:00] – Gift-giving and fixing: when “help” becomes controlNotable Resources:Dr. Sarah Michaud’s book Co CrazyFollow Finn and Sarah on YouTube: @LeavingCrazyTownFriendly CTA: 🎧 Subscribe, review, and send this episode to a friend still stuck in “nice mode.” Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Come for the truth bombs, stay for the laughter, and leave with a renewed sense of agency.

Are you genuinely nice—or is your “niceness” a codependent disguise? In this kick-off episode, Finn and Dr. Sarah dive into the blurry line between kindness and codependency. With relatable stories, raw honesty, and a healthy dose of humor, they explore how saying “yes” when you want to say “no” might actually be self-betrayal, not generosity. Get ready to smash the illusion of “niceness” and learn what it really means to show up for yourself.Takeaways:Codependency often masquerades as being “a really nice person.”Saying yes when you want to say no leads to resentment and emotional suppression.Pausing before agreeing to something is a powerful recovery tool.Being “nice” to others at your own expense isn’t true kindness.You can be kind and have boundaries—honesty is part of real connection.Key Timestamps: [00:01:00] — Is it kindness… or codependency? [00:03:00] — Why saying “yes” can create resentment [00:04:00] — The power of pausing before responding [00:07:00] — Dr. Sarah’s hilarious (and painful) gift basket story [00:10:00] — Being nice to yourself = telling the truthNotable Resources or Guest Links:Co Crazy by Dr. Sarah MichaudFollow Finn and Sarah on YouTube: @leavingcrazytownSubscribe and share this episode with someone who needs to stop people-pleasing and start truth-telling.Codependency Recovery: Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. With humor, honesty, and clinical insight, they offer grounded guidance and compassionate camaraderie for anyone ready to reclaim their sanity and self-worth.

In this episode of "Leaving Crazy Town," Finn and Sarah delve into the complex terrain of honesty in relationships. They discuss how unspoken truths can manifest in behaviors and thoughts, often leading to misunderstandings and loss of connection. With personal anecdotes and candid insights, they explore the significance of expressing one's truth to foster intimacy and avoid the silent build-up of unresolved issues.What You’ll Learn:The subtle ways we avoid speaking our truth in relationships.The impact of not addressing our true feelings and needs.Strategies for clear communication to nurture deeper connections and avoid misunderstandings.Listener Challenge: Identify one truth you’ve been hesitant to share with someone close to you. Consider the possible consequences of remaining silent and take the courageous step to express it this week.Connect with Us: Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown

In this episode of Leaving Crazy Town, Finn and Sarah delve into the concept of hidden anger and how it can impact your life and relationships. They share personal experiences and insights on identifying hidden anger and offer strategies to manage and process it effectively. This episode is packed with practical advice for achieving a more peaceful and grounded life by understanding and addressing your hidden emotions.What You’ll Learn:How hidden anger manifests in our daily lives and behaviors.The connection between anxiety and repressed anger.Strategies for recognizing and processing hidden anger to improve personal peace and relationships.Listener Challenge: Identify one sign of hidden anger from this episode and take steps to address it by journaling, talking to a friend, or practicing mindfulness.Connect with Us: Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown

In this episode of Leaving Crazy Town, Finn and Sarah dive into the concept of "fear bombs" and how they impact our daily lives. They discuss the prevalence of fear-driven media, especially during times of crisis like COVID, and explore strategies to maintain peace and stability amidst chaos. Finn and Sarah share personal experiences and tips for managing fear and staying grounded during turbulent times.What You’ll Learn:The impact of media's sensationalism on personal fear levels.How to differentiate between speculation and reality in fearful situations.Strategies to maintain inner peace and well-being amidst external chaos.The importance of focusing on oneself to reduce codependency and societal fear.Practical steps to transform negative thoughts into gratitude and positivity.Listener Challenge: Identify one fear-driven message you frequently encounter and apply a strategy discussed in the episode to manage it, whether it's limiting media consumption, practicing gratitude, or focusing on personal well-being.Connect with Us: Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown

Join Finn and Sarah in this insightful episode of "Leaving Crazy Town" as they navigate the complex world of codependency, even when they consider themselves experts. Through personal anecdotes, they unpack the ease with which our minds can rationalize codependent behaviors, especially when dating or interacting with others. Discover their humorous and enlightening take on how quickly things can spiral when boundaries are not communicated clearly.What You’ll Learn:How past traumas can trigger codependent behaviors even in recovery.The importance of speaking your truth to maintain clarity in relationships.Strategies to overcome fear and discomfort when advocating for your needs.The consequences of not speaking up and how to effectively repair relationships afterwards.Listener Challenge: Reflect on any personal instances where you compromised your needs due to fear of judgment or rejection. Practice speaking your truth in a small way this week and notice the results.Connect with Us: Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown

In this lively episode of Crazy Town with Finn and Sarah, we dive into the intricate world of communication differences, pondering whether these are rooted in gender, personality, or individual needs. Finn and Sarah discuss their personal experiences, shedding light on how these differences play out in their relationships and invite listeners to reflect on their own communication styles.What You’ll Learn:The potential influence of gender on communication styles.How individual needs shape our communication methods and preferences.Ways to identify and articulate your communication needs in relationships.Listener Challenge:Ask someone in your life a yes or no question and observe if they answer directly or provide detailed processing. Reflect on whether this aligns with gender, personality, or circumstance.Connect with Us:Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown(Note: The episode is filled with humor and personal anecdotes that highlight the complexities of human interaction. Tune in for fascinating insights and some laughs along the way!)

In this episode of Leaving Crazy Town, Finn and Sarah dive into the intricate world of codependency and character defects. Through candid conversations, the hosts share personal experiences from the week, exploring how these aspects influenced their lives and relationships. From navigating the aftermath of back surgery to managing emotional triggers on a trip, Finn and Sarah offer insights on self-awareness and growth.What You’ll Learn:How codependency can manifest in everyday situations and ways to address it.The distinction between making decisions out of fear versus conscious compromise in relationships.Tips for recognizing and managing character defects in stressful situations.Listener Challenge: Reflect on a recent situation where you might have acted out of codependency or character defects, and identify one step you can take to address it.Connect with Us: Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown

In this episode of "Leaving Crazy Town," hosts Sarah and Finn delve into the intricacies of managing conflicts within friendships, using their own recent disagreement as a case study. Listen as they explore the dynamics of activation, response, and repair in relationships, and share insights on how to handle misunderstandings through effective communication and self-awareness.What You’ll Learn:Strategies for processing emotions and responses during conflicts.The importance of recognizing and respecting different approaches and communication styles.Techniques for pausing and gaining clarity before responding to inflammatory messages.Listener Challenge: Identify a recent conflict in your own life and apply the pause-and-reflect method discussed in the episode to resolve the situation.Connect with Us: Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown

In this episode, we dive into New Year's reflections with Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud as they explore personal growth strategies for the coming year. Sarah highlights the importance of embracing discomfort, pushing physical boundaries, and cultivating gratitude, all while sharing personal anecdotes and experiences that illuminate her journey. From navigating new relationships to enhancing physical resilience, Sarah's insights offer a comprehensive guide to getting comfortable with the uncomfortable and finding gratitude in life's challenges. What You’ll Learn: How embracing discomfort can lead to personal growth and a healthier mindset. The benefits of pushing beyond physical limits for improved mental and physical health. The transformative power of gratitude and its role in reshaping difficult relationships and challenging life events. Listener Challenge: Identify someone in your life who challenges you and write down ten things you are grateful for about them. Reframe this relationship by focusing on the positive impacts they've had on your life. Connect with Us: Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown

In this episode of Leaving Crazy Town, hosts Finn and Sarah dive into the ever-important topic of asking for what you need. They explore the complexities of understanding personal needs, the challenge of voicing them, and the social dynamics that can make it daunting. Join them as they share insights and personal anecdotes about how relationships offer a mirror for self-discovery and the art of expressing needs effectively. What You’ll Learn: The contrast between self-reliance and asking for help. Why identifying personal needs can be challenging for those focused on others. How to discern and articulate your needs within a relationship. The importance of asking for what you need without expecting others to mind-read. Strategies for effective communication to ensure needs are met. Listener Challenge: Reflect on a need you have and practice articulating it clearly to someone who can help fulfill it. Connect with Us: Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown

Join Finn and Sarah in this special New Year episode as they explore setting intentions for 2025, with a focus on self-love and breaking away from old patterns. Sarah shares her personal journey of embracing herself by stopping comparisons and letting go of self-criticism, while Finn ties these themes into the broader context of overcoming codependency and changing one's mindset for a fulfilling life. What You’ll Learn: A refreshing perspective on setting New Year's goals centered on self-acceptance. Practical ways to focus on loving oneself, inspired by real-life examples. The impact of shedding old thought patterns and focusing on personal happiness. Listener Challenge:Think of one achievable self-care goal for 2025 that centers around loving and accepting yourself. Connect with Us:Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown

In this episode of Leaving Crazy Town, hosts Finn and Amanda delve into the complex world of grief. They discuss the different forms grief can take, beyond just the loss of a loved one, such as job loss, physical changes, or a major life transition like retirement. With their personal stories and expert insights, Finn and Amanda offer understanding and guidance on acknowledging and processing grief in a healthy way. What You’ll Learn: The wide spectrum of experiences that can trigger grief, not just death. Unconventional ways grief might manifest in your life and behaviors. The importance of allowing yourself to feel grief without judgment. Listener Challenge: Take a moment to pause and reflect on any recent changes or losses in your life. Identify if you might be experiencing grief, and give yourself permission to feel and process these emotions. Connect with Us: Follow us on YouTube @leavingcrazytown for more episodes and insights.