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Marie Silverstrim, User Experience (UX) DesignerWhether you are observing actions or directly asking, your customers and clients are telling you something. Understanding not only what that is but the why behind it... well, that's what gets you to the good stuff.And, while it's always a good time to make sure your business goals are aligned with customer needs, Q1 of 2025 continues to remind us that the behaviors we use to understand these needs might not mean what we think they do, or what they once did. Just as possible, new and wonderful opportunities might emerge from this disruption. As we consider ways to understand existing customers and reach new ones during periods of uncertainty, our guide is Marie Silverstrim, a UX designer who is a master at breaking down concepts and delivering practical advice that is immediately actionable. Together with Joan Kanner's love of all things survey and Michelle Bond's contextualization of business in the current moment, we wrap up Proofing Stage's third season with an honest-to-goodness bonanza of tools and anecdotes to help you meet your moment.E.g.:Good design often goes unnoticed, making it feel invisibleFeedback from users is essential for improving products and servicesSurveys and direct conversations can yield valuable insightsStakeholder opinions can differ from user needs; balance is keyIterative design allows for continuous improvement and adaptationThe real 'why' behind user feedback is essential for growthLinksClassic UX 101 books:Don't Make Me Think by Steve KrugThe Design of Everyday Things by Don NormanOther books:Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself by Nedra Glover TawwabBurnout by Emily Nagoski and Amelia NagoskiGlossary:Institutional Review Board (IRB)Likert scalePersonally identifiable information (PII)PollThe following UX terms may be found here:AffordancesMinimum viable product (MVP)QualitativeQuantitativeFocus groupsSurveyagile UXA/B testingCredits:Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by Come On Boy by MondayHopesPodcast Cover Art by Lisa OryeProduced by Joan Kanner and Michelle BondFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

When times are shit and you need a pep talk... and strategies... and allies... It's time to return to our Season 2 Episode with:Erin Stampp, she/her, MPP - Director, Professional DevelopmentWashington University School of Medicine in St. LouisIn this episode of Proofing Stage, hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner are joined by DEI practitioner Erin Stampp. Together, they unpack the challenges and necessities of implementing effective DEI strategies, even for minority business owners.Erin emphasizes that true diversity goes beyond visibility; focusing on fostering an inclusive culture where diverse identities are seen and valued. The conversation also covers practical aspects like dietary restrictions in food businesses and universal design. Michelle and Joan share their experiences with integrating these practices into Bottoms Up Bagels, including staff reticence and industry norms.Erin highlights the importance of relational, equity-centered leadership, which involves creating a supportive environment through active listening and engagement. She addresses retention challenges and the truly counter-cultural work of inclusion and systemic change. Join us for a very open conversation about our blind spots, power-sharing in leadership, and the self-compassion required to make it stick. Like:Asking for, listening to and implementing input is where it’s atHow we can turn our exclamation points into question marksWhere the anti-racism, anti-sexism fairy dust residesThe trappings of cancel cultureTaking a sec to acknowledge what’s working and build on itBig, sexy (self-) compliments go a long wayLinksCheck out one of Erin’s current projects, a Desegregation History Timeline (education aid to advance culture change)Connect with Erin StamppLinkedInInstagramFaux Sponsor, "Cartoon Mallet" - written and performed by Joan KannerTheme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music:Combat Morning by Den Writeman (via Pixabay)Music for Puzzle Game by Ivantraveso (via Pixabay)Executive Producers,  Joan Kanner and Michelle BondPodcast cover art by Lisa OryeFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Dr. Eleanor Rust and Dr. Tristra Newyear YeagerProducers, Writers & Hosts of Frances Wright: America's Forgotten RadicalWomen have - and do - play significant roles in shaping history, yet their stories are often never recorded in the first place or simply erased. By answering the question "Frances who?" Eleanor and Tristra provide insights into how some women-owned businesses are also forgotten - if they were acknowledged at all. Tired of battling algos? Navigating the troubled waters of modern journalism?Let's redefine success and shed light on women while they're making history. Oyez! Oyez! Gather 'round as we discuss how:Historical narratives should include contributions from diverse folksErasure doesn't have to happen, if you identify its methods and sourcesEngaging with history can inspire contemporary movements for changeFrances Wright's legacy serves as a reminder of the ongoing fight for equalityStorytelling can amplify marginalized voices... NOWRemember: unlike Vegas, whatever happened in New Harmony shouldn't stay there.Connect with Eleanor & Tristra:Eleanor’s 19th-century history writingsTristra’s author website Links:Most of the obscure references made during this episode...CharonCassandraOrphic dressesNew Harmony, IndianaWorking Men's InstituteFirst-wave feminismDownright Gabbler cartoon of Frances WrightHegelian processBroadsidesKindness Tree MovementMDWST FableJosiah WarrenModern TimesCredits:Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by DirectToDreamsThe Dangers of Polka PSA Written by Joan Kanner Performed by Michelle Bond and Joan KannerMusic by Sonican; Alana JordanPodcast Cover Art: Lisa OryeProduced by Joan Kanner and Michelle BondFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Susan Clayton, Founder of WhitePaws RunMitts Better now or better now? Better now? Like many of you, we're entering the new year fine-tuning our vision and calling on our support systems. This includes brilliant business minds like, Susan Clayton, Founder of WhitePaws RunMitts who is hitting her stride while elevating themes for underrepresented founders with candor and joy. How can many of these businesses are both over-mentored and under-supported? How can spending money be difficult, and asking questions be threatening? Susan commiserates with Michelle and Joan in the Proofing Stage era, with sharpened perspective and insights. Together they challenge themselves and others, discussing equity, business savvy, permission vs. forgiveness, spending capital, disrupting systems and holding mentors (aka gatekeepers) accountable. This episode unboxes a wealth of holiday gifts and reorganizes the way we see ourselves and can operate in the world - demanding more and helping one another along the way. Run with us. Segments include:Building a Supportive Team and Trusting RelationshipsImportance of Long-Term Strategy, Collaborations and CommunityNeed for Practical Support in Business and Impact of Bureaucracy on Small BusinessesRisk and Growth in EntrepreneurshipCalling out Bias and Unconscious ObstaclesDefining Effective Mentorship and Protecting Intellectual PropertyConnect with Susan Clayton:https://runmitts.com/IG: @whitepaws_runmittsFB: @whitepawsrunmittsBlue Sky: @runmitts.bsky.socialLinkedin: @Susan(RunMitts, LLC)ClaytonLinks:More on themes in this episode in S1: EP4, The Myth of Meritocracy/Mentorship, SchmentorshipScroobious' vendor marketplaceThe Johns Hopkins Wilmer Eye InstituteREI Path Ahead VenturesEpisode Sponsor: Trash B GoneCredits:Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional music: Tom Thumb - Feeling the Flow (via Pixabay)take out the trash by Jacob Field (via Pixabay)Podcast Cover Art by Lisa OryeProduced by Joan Kanner and Michelle BondFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Tabitha? Cute, but don't mess. Endora? Fierce.Sabrina? Work.Joanne Lakomski? Um, legend.We're here with some new, free bonus content to start off 2025. Our recording with Joanne Lakomski, The Human Resorceress, was particularly content-rich and timely as we reflect on this past year while priming us for the new one.Hey, if you're one of our Proofing Stage+ Patreon subscribers, this is your second bonus with Joanne. Just a little plug for supporting us in that way. Ahem... This bonus content highlights themes that we couldn't fit into our main episode with Joanne. Wanna know one? All right. Let me give you a hint.There are so many things we find irritating that people regularly do. One is using the word "witch" to sanitize what they really want to call someone - "bitch." Yes, it's annoying that they're unnecessarily pulling a punch. But for us, it's also about mislabeling someone as a "witch." Rude. Don't be a Derwood! Treat yourself by listening to this bonus episode.While we're at it - shout out to the Gladys Kravitzs in your life!Connect with Joanne:https://www.linkedin.com/in/joanne-lakomski/humanresorceress.orgLinks:AxiologyRobert Hartman HierophantCredits:Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional music: 魔女 witch by nojisuma (via Pixabay)Podcast Cover Art by Lisa OryeProduced by Joan Kanner and Michelle BondFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Joanne Lakomski, Human Resorceress Coaching and Consulting At a time of year when we can feel overwhelmed, reflective, daunted and blessed (often within the same 30 minutes), we've got a salve for both your personal and professional pain points. This week Michelle and Joan connect with Joanne Lakomski, the Human Resorceress, bringing years of expertise in HR and Organizational Development to her coaching and consulting practice. Joanne's sorcery leverages a love and articulation of concepts and how they can illustrate what's at play in our work environments, and in our own minds. Her powers encourage deep listening and engagement, breaking down challenges to their specific elements and giving us a different lens through which to examine them. Our conversation is as warm and deep as it is silly and real, and offers the perfect treat for yourself this holiday season. Whether you're looking to take stock of 2024 milestones, or plan for new approaches in 2025, our time with Joanne puts the humanity of HR front and center, and gives plenty of potent wisdom for us to proof on and practice in the process. Some enchanted takeaways:Bev naps as the tried and true whiteboardWorkplace quid pro quos when it comes to authenticityThe neuroscience behind our decision makingHow you show up and the power of being seenHaving clarity of purpose and alignment tools to get thereBeing jazzed about embracing our female powerConnect with Joanne:https://www.linkedin.com/in/joanne-lakomski/humanresorceress.orgLinks:Bev Nap WisdomMihaly "The Father of Flow" CsikszentmihalyiSee Joanne's Flow Diagram bev napcoaching.comCredits:Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional Music: Asimov by fanchisanchez (via Pixabay)Podcast Cover Art by Lisa OryeProduced by Joan Kanner and Michelle BondFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Brandy Archie, OTD, OTR/L, CLIPPFounder, CEO at AskSAMIE Part session with your OT, part advice on goal setting and business management from your ET ("Entrepreneur Therapist"), Dr. Brandy Archie drops all kinds of knowledge on this week's episode. From her approach to working with those looking to age in place, to her lessons from multiple ventures aimed at improving patient quality of life, independence and self-determination, Brandy is leading the conversation for caregivers and founders alike.And have we mentioned that she hosts the Care Lab podcast? Together, Michelle, Joan and Brandy discuss the benefits of accessibility inside and outside of your home. Brandy also shares her insights on what it takes to run a growing business while setting milestones that support you reaching your big, audacious goal. Now that the season of giving (and buying) is upon us, we'd be remiss if we didn't mention that - in addition to pro-tips for making your environment work better for you and those you care about - Brandy's AskSAMIE platform also offers unique products, used and approved by professionals that make it easier to live independently and on our own terms.Hold on, we're chatting about:Occupational therapy and why it matters now, not just laterEntrepreneurial solutions to healthcare gapsHow to see your physical space through a different lensSometimes you just need to know how to do a thingHow to flip the script on "prevention" questions in your pitchSnarky feedback might still have meritThe importance of relationships in success, and knowing what to ask forSocial Media Links:https://www.asksamie.comhttps://www.facebook.com/AskSAMIEhttps://www.instagram.com/asksamiehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/drbrandyarchie/https://www.linkedin.com/company/asksamie/https://www.twitter.com/Ask_SAMIEHandles:FB @AskSAMIEIG @AskSAMIETwitter @Ask_SAMIEYoutube @Ask-SAMIELinked In @AskSAMIELinks:Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone1 Million Cups The Baker's Body: Integrating Strategies for Physical Wellbeing and Longevity in Your BakeryEpisode Sponsor: Hers ElectricCredits:Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional Music: Bop It - Audio Tonic (via Pixabay)Podcast Cover Art by Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Some things never change, and this includes our appetite for business self-help books. This holiday week, we're sharing a special episode with Joan and Michelle, discussing leadership-development propaganda from days gone by. What do concepts of success and decision-making look like in the rear view mirror, and what, perhaps not surprisingly, still holds true?Spend some time in this cozy conversation with our Proofing Stage hosts as they carve out some of these perspectives and serve up some of their own. It's the ultimate "proofing" episode just in time for your Thanksgiving trek, prep, to-do list, or downtime. This week, we're exploring:The industry of business self-help booksWhat's changed (and hasn't) about who's qualified to share expertiseHow conceptual models can provide guidance and bust our blocksWhere the House of Woo has moved to (and from)The cultural and environmental barriers at play in our work and in our mindsWe are thankful for you! Books:Everybody's Money by Sharon Stark, et al. The Relaxation Response by Herbert Benson, M.D. with Miriam Z. KlipperWinners & Losers by Sydney J. Harris, illustrated by Nicole HollanderSix Action Shoes by Edward de BonoConceptual Blockbusting: A Pleasurable Guide to Better Problem Solving by James L. Adams*Check out book covers and artwork at proofingstage.comCredits:Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional Music: Dance All Night by alanajordan (via Pixabay)Podcast Cover Art by Lisa OryeProduced by Joan Kanner and Michelle BondFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Dr. Anaïs Webster Mennuti, PharmD Co-founder of Shots With That LLC Marie Wilda, Founder/CEO Lenkai.co In this week's episode Michelle and Joan sit down with producers, Anaïs and Marie, to learn more about the driving factors behind their documentary film, Harmacy, including their personal experiences and funding sought to make it happen. While Big Pharma and the opioid epidemic have flooded our culture and consciousness, less attention has been paid to pharmacies themselves - their workers, and the people they serve.As corporate chains have elbowed out community pharmacies, pharmacists and pharmacy technicians also experience burnout, depression, anxiety, panic attacks, miscarriage, and even death. Patients experience frustration and fear of not being able to fill their prescriptions on time and the harmful repercussions that result. Our conversation looks at what it takes to bring this project (or any) to life - experience, persistence, money and connections are just the beginning.The question of "What qualifies you?" is familiar territory for women and underrepresented leaders in every industry and position. Join us for (another) candid conversation about why shedding light is important, what it takes to be heard, and the value of just doing the thing in order to prove your concept and build momentum.If you're thinking about any of the following, this one's for you:The hidden costs of things often not discussedTiming of pursuing a larger platform to tell your storyFinding a team to help you flesh out a conceptValuing your time and effort in relation to budgetBreaking into an industry as an outsiderUnderstanding where your work fits in a larger cultural contextUsing your lived and professional experience to do something others can'tOh, and stick around until the very end of the episode to learn about our surprise sponsor!Connect with Harmcacy Film:Web: Harmacy FilmSocials: @HarmacyFilmEmail for investment opportunitiesAnaïs Webster Mennuti, PharmD Director / Producer / Co-CreatorIG: @anaiswebmenMarie Wilda, ProducerFounder / CEO Lenkai.co (B2B Revenue Accelerator)IG: @m_esther12LinkedInLinks:Docs in ProgressScroobiousCredits:Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional Music by: AnyStyle via Pixabay & HVRGND via PixabayPodcast Cover Art by Lisa Orye Ad written and performed by Joan KannerAd music by: Lexin_Music via PixabayProduced by Joan Kanner and Michelle BondFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Megan Hanson, Public Relations & Communications ConsultantIn an age of perpetual content creation and AI, you don't tend to hear much about traditional PR anymore. Often, it can feel like it's about the likes, the engagement numbers. And, don't get us wrong, measures are important. But here's a secret that this Proofing Stage episode shouts loud and proud: It's the people behind those measures that matter most. Customers. Team Members. Your Publicist - these are all people, baby. Actual human beings who, in the words of Megan Hanson, "want to connect with actual human beings."Start ups and bootstrapping small businesses often don't have the budget, or sometimes even the vision, to see how the long game of relationship building can pay off big. It takes time, effort, money and skills that not everyone has or has the bandwidth for. Today's conversation with Megan fills in the gaps about what you need to know to decide if working with a PR person is right for you, and if it's the right time. Together with Megan, Michelle and Joan explore mission and personal and professional fit, because at the end of the day you need the best ambassador you can have to represent your business. And, that definition of best? Well, that's completely up to you. Representation matters in more ways than one:Breaking through the noise takes timeBuilding relationships and contacting the right peopleGiving up on a dream to find the best pathAdjusting thinking from sales calls onlyEvolving as the game changes around youChoosing a supporting cast, rather than a starring roleConnect with Megan Hanson:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/megankhanson/Email - [email protected] Colorado Folks, check out Thunderview CEO DinnersToilets & Plunjr's PR Success StoriesCredits:Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional Music by: The_Mountain (via Pixabay)Podcast Cover Art by Lisa Orye Ad written and performed by Joan KannerAd music by: Tech_Oasis (via Pixabay)Produced by Joan Kanner and Michelle BondFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

For many a small business owner, it's the toughest job they've ever loved. From sloppy egg sandwiches to doing the (nearly) impossible, come along with the founders of Bottoms Up Bagels as they pull back the curtain on building their dream. From obstacles and lessons learned to wins and hard-earned perspective, there's something here for everyone just trying to make something happen- or even just watching it happen.Proofing Stage is out now wherever you get your podcasts. Theme Music by Thorn HazeWritten by Joan Kanner and Michelle BondProduced by Hivecast.fmFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Get That Cash! Business Grant GuidanceStraight Cash Opportunities for Your Business, Homie.Finally, the pro-tip episode we've been promising for ages! Well, about two seasons anyway. From grant-writing to review, Michelle and Joan join forces for a content rich, use right now conversation on grants. The two focus on finding, applying and reporting on those funding sources that are the best fit for your needs, while creating a process that keeps your admin time light but can still drop the cash needed to start, grow or scale your business.From getting to know administrators to weaving the story that keeps you front and center for future opportunities, this discussion takes years of writing and reviewing grant applications and distills the basics (and then some). For those looking to take advantage of these sometimes-slippery-but-almost-always worth-it resources to support your next project, hire or revenue stream - you're gonna wanna hit "save" on this one. Like:Grants vs. hanging with Bea Arthur in a money machineGrant-writing experience matters, and you can build itGetting clear on your needs and use of funds90-day action plans and a boilerplate are everythingEssential grant components and how to excel at themTracking and reporting progress even when it's not "required"Grant Speak 101See full definitions on the Proofing Stage websiteBudgetCost sharingEffortNon-dilutive fundingPost-award managementPre-award costsPrime sponsorProgress reportsProgram ManagerProject periodRequest for Applications (RFA)LinksChama CapitalCheck out their grants database for upcoming opportunities. They're a great source for seeing what's available. Bonus! Their list is organized and you can sort based on eligibility requirements. CreditsTheme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional Music by: wildman48 (via Pixabay)Podcast Cover Art by Lisa Orye Produced by Joan Kanner and Michelle BondFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Prescription drug commercials tell us all the time how life can be different, better, more vibrant. Sometimes it's not that pill we take but the people, knowledge and influences we take IN that make all the difference. Here's our pitch for regular doses of Proofing Stage making you feel like a more empowered you in no time ... with maximum side effects!Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional Music by Lexin_Music via PixabayWritten and Produced by Joan KannerFeaturing @kaitkdesigns @okay_everything @rescuepoetix Erin Stampp, Alexis Grant and Joan KannerFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

“Proofing Stage is all about this journey. We know we could have just given up and moved on, keeping our learning (and our cringe) to ourselves. Be we didn’t.”On Proofing Stage, Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner get to the heart of what it means to build something from the ground up. They’re talking to founders, makers, and strategists who aren’t afraid to spill the tea on their biggest mistakes and hardest-earned wins. Ever wondered how to recover when things go sideways? Or how to draw the line between hustling and burning out? This podcast is a crash course in pushing limits, setting boundaries, and plotting your next big move. Because let’s face it—what got you here won’t get you there. Listen, subscribe and share today. LinksPodcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fmFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Alexis Grant, Founder & CEO of They Got Acquired“What I’m passionate about is helping founders who have put their blood, sweat, and tears into these businesses, especially female founders, to walk away with as much money as they deserve,” says Alexis Grant, founder and CEO of They Got Acquired. In this episode, Lexi joins Michelle and Joan to demystify the often-underestimated art of selling a business, especially for small and underrepresented founders.The conversation digs into why thinking of a business sale from day one can be a game-changer for small businesses, and how prepping your business for that sale often means having a better (and more fun) business to run. Lexi advocates for thinking of your business from a buyer's perspective, which doesn’t only mean revenue and profit, but also managing team dynamics and internal processes during a sale, which can sometimes put deals at risk. The best part? If you’re a business with a six- or seven-figure sale the payoff for years of bootstrapping and below-market salary often means more than money. Selling your business is not just an exit strategy but a launchpad for new ventures, latitude for more innovation and community empowerment. Lexi’s new data platform exemplifies this mission, providing founders with the insights they need to connect with the right buyers.This final episode of Season 2 of Proofing Stage leaves us fired up and ready to go, providing tactics you can walk away with to:Consider a business sale as the strategic move Tap into resources for selling your business early onIdentify which levers to pull to make your business more appealing to buyersAssess operational sticking points and risks to being acquiredFocus on profit, not just revenueTake learnings from your first business to position your next one for saleDiscuss acquisition as a growth strategy for your businessLinksConnect with Alexis Grant:https://alexisgrant.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexisgrant/They Got AcquiredBeing a Buyer Rather than a FounderAcquiring Minds PodcastTheme Music: Thorn HazeAdditional Music: OgifeeltheBeat, prazkhanal, juniorsoundaysCover Art: Lisa Orye Ad by Joan Kanner performed by Michelle BondAd music Fresh MorningExecutive Producers: Joan Kanner & Michelle BondProduction by HiveCast.fmFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Veronica Yanhs, Founder of Business Laid Bare & Creator of the Orgasmic Operations® MethodWhat do Star Wars and Aladdin have in common? For Veronica Yanhs, founder of Business Laid Bare and creator of the Orgasmic Operations® Method, they’re the start of her journey into blending kink with business operations. She joins hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner to discuss her unconventional brand and the power in tightening up your business operations to achieve business growth and profitability - not to mention peace of mind!Operations are the lifeblood of any business, and Veronica breaks down why they’re the “how” that makes the “what” possible. She paints a vivid picture of transforming a needy business “baby” into a self-sufficient “adult,” running smoothly without constant hand-holding.Veronica also delves into a human-centric approach to operations, emphasizing that treating people right and playing to their strengths leads to better outcomes. She also offers the top tools for a basic tech stack for streamlining your processes and keeping your team on the same page. Knowledge management and email marketing are just the beginning, but less can be more!Join us for a bold exploration of how authenticity and operational savvy drive business success. Building a business that you love day in and day outKnowing your audience and embracing your #freakflagNecessity of operations for corporations, small businesses and side hustlesChanging the trajectory of operations-related lossesRethinking Spaciousness in work and lifeUnderstanding the value of a good email marketing listHow to work best with an outside Ops teamVeronica’s unconventional perspective and no-nonsense advice make it a must-listen for any entrepreneur looking to supercharge their operations while staying true to their vision.LinksConnect with Veronica Yanhs:Business Laid Bare: www.businesslaidbare.comVeronica Yanhs Instagram: www.instagram.com/veronicayanhs/Business Laid Bare Instagram: www.instagram.com/businesslaidbare/Veronica Yanhs LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/veronicayanhs/Theme Music by Thorn HazeAdditional Music by: nojisuma (via Pixabay), Keyframe Audio (via Pixabay), and nickpanek620 (via Pixabay)Podcast Cover Art by Lisa Orye Fauxmercial: "Hvort End Est Oop" ("Which end is up?")Written and performed by Joan KannerMusic by Fupicat (via Pixabay)Executive Producers, Joan Kanner and Michelle BondPodcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fmFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

RescuePoetix™ (she/her/ella/ellas), Poet, Advocate, Artist, Educator“It’s breaking up and then finding the breakthrough in that breakup,” says RescuePoetix™ as she talks with hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner about her podcast, discussing how breaking up with concepts and constructs can lead to profound insights and personal growth. RescuePoetix™—the first Puerto Rican woman poet laureate emeritus of Jersey City—shares her journey as a bilingual, globally published performing poet, advocate, spoken word artist, and educator. A practiced advocate for herself and others, she inspires as an artist manager, and speaks about fair pay for creatives, the heavy toll of trauma on business decisions, and the evolution of her play, “By the Light of the Ghetto Moon.”We recommend sitting down with a cortado and a buttered roll for this #crewjersey episode as they illustrate and unpack what it’s like to be underrepresented small business owners and artists, tackling topics like the value of art, fair compensation, and intergenerational trauma.A conversation in the truest sense of the word, these women leverage personal stories to convey:The realities of being a BIPOC artist entrepreneurConcepts and family cultures that hold us backGritty details like term sheets, valuing time, and building community trustBalancing the hustle of chasing opportunities with the wisdom of letting things unfold naturallyRights and responsibilities of business leadersBreaking cycles and trauma reactions to improve decision-makingNote: There's also a timely mention of Richard Simmons towards the end of this episode. While we had no way of knowing he would pass before we aired, the nod of recognition is still quite fitting. #restinpower LinksRescue is part of the Everything is a Story podcast with Dujuana Sharese where extraordinary people share their rights of passage from Breakup to Breakthrough.Connect with RescuePoetix™More info: https://linktr.ee/rescuepoetixTheme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by Afrobeat reggaeton afro type beat (via Pixabay) and Fresh Morning (via Pixabay)Artwork by Lisa OryeAd written by Joan KannerAd music by BluBonRelaXon (via Pixabay) and Patrizio Yoga (via Pixabay)Executive Producers, Joan Kanner and Michelle BondPodcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fmFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

In what would become the waning days of the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes last September, Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB) trekked up to New York City to spread some bagel love, and rounded out their BUB Roadshow engaging with those on the picket line. Among them was Avis Boone, actor, model, voice actor, photographer and content creator. Avis produces the That's How We Role podcast, where she talks with women making an impact as entrepreneurs, business owners, creatives, artists, actors, entertainment industry professionals, advocates, solopreneurs about their businesses and careers. Especially, their motivation and inspiration all while serving as role models and mentors for those wanting to create their own path in their career journey.During Women's History Month Avis sat down with Michelle and Joan to discuss starting BUB and their transition to Proofing Stage. We're sharing it with you during this summer break and look forward to being back with you next on 7/17 for a brand new episode of Proofing Stage.Enjoy the conversation and here's how you can follow THWR:IG and Threads: @avis.booneWebsite Podcast StreamIf you like what you're hearing, please rate and review our shows, wherever you get your pods.Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Sue Ellsworth (she/her), Manager of Piedmont Food Processing Center and Founder of WE Power Food  In the food industry, facing challenges is like battling summer heat—you can’t escape it, but you can learn to thrive with the right supports. In this episode of Proofing Stage, hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner explore the realities with Sue Ellsworth, Manager of Piedmont Food Processing Center and Founder of WE Power Food, about running a shared kitchen successfully.Sue reveals how the center evolved into a 10,200 square-foot haven for 65 companies, navigating cross-contamination and overcrowding with its unique setup. She emphasizes the importance of truly serving the entrepreneurs who use the facility by championing the art of starting small, testing products at farmers’ markets, and using raw, unbiased feedback to improve them before going big on packaging and marketing.Michelle and Joan serve up their own tales from Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB), underscoring the goldmine that is direct customer feedback and how it helped inform their product development and the overall BUB brand. Whether you are a food business owner, consumer or champion, tune in to this episode for sharp insights, practical advice, and a dose of real-world grit on fostering a thriving food business ecosystem.Highlights include:Building a community of would-be competitorsNavigating red tape of food entrepreneurshipNitty gritty in regulations and labelingTanking two of our episode sponsorsPassion, vision (and an assist!) are all equally necessaryLong-term thinking impacts “success” and can fight food insecurityOpportunity calling (but Kool Kat Sue sends them to voicemail)LinksConnect with Sue Ellsworth:WE Power Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/WEPowerNCWE Power Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/we_power_food1/WE Power website: www.wepowerfood.orgPFPC Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/PFAPNCPFPC website: www.pfapnc.orgMore on food business startups and spaces S1: EP3, Share Kitchen ConfidentialTheme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by William King (via Pixabay), SergePavkinMusic (via Pixabay)Artwork by Lisa OryeExecutive Producers, Joan Kanner and Michelle BondPodcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fmFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Guest - Sarah O'Leary (she/her), Founder and CEO of Mend Acupuncture---Imagine entering a dimly lit room. It's vast and yet you immediately feel tucked in. Soothing sounds swirl around you with a "whoosh, whoosh." You sit down in a dreamy recliner. After you settle in, you notice others quietly resetting their nervous systems. And just as you ask yourself "Could I be next to go on this journey?" you are approached by an open, capable and trendy practitioner. They speak first, offering both expertise and partnership delivered in a dulcet tone "What would you like to work on today?" Then, excited that the next words you offer will start you on the path to wellness you say..."I gots the trots! Where can you stick me for that?" in the least discreet way possible.And just like that, you wake up to the sound of your "Radial" iPhone alarm. Why?Because it's after 6am and you know the latest episode of Proofing Stage comes out WITH NONE OTHER THAN SARAH O'LEARY! That's why!For long-lasting effects, let Joan, Michelle and Sarah plant a seed or two on your earlobes with these here gems:Sarah spills the (chaga) tea on all things community acupunctureOur verbal cupping will suck out any desire for "move fast and break things" growthJoan argues for adding a "Sexy is..." sentence completion segment to the podWe dispense indispensable advice for young people entering the work worldIf you smell what Michelle is cooking...  it's #integrityAnd, when taken regularly (and seriously) data decreases your risk of making bad business decisionsNow peep that through your #windowpoints, son!More on Mend Acupuncture:Website: https://mendacupuncture.com/InstagramFacebookFaux Sponsor: "The iFOAT Diet" - written by Joan Kanner- performed by Michelle Bond, Sarah O'Leary and Joan Kanner- music: Lady of the 80’s by Grand_Project (via Pixabay)Theme music by Thorn HazeAdditional musicOcean by Oleksii_Kalyna (via Pixabay)Podcast cover art by Lisa OryeExecutive Producers, Joan Kanner and Michelle BondPodcast production provided by HiveCast.fmFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Erin Stampp, she/her, MPP - Director, Professional DevelopmentWashington University School of Medicine in St. LouisIn this episode of Proofing Stage, hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner are joined by DEI practitioner Erin Stampp. Together, they unpack the challenges and necessities of implementing effective DEI strategies, even for minority business owners.Erin emphasizes that true diversity goes beyond visibility; focusing on fostering an inclusive culture where diverse identities are seen and valued. The conversation also covers practical aspects like dietary restrictions in food businesses and universal design. Michelle and Joan share their experiences with integrating these practices into Bottoms Up Bagels, including staff reticence and industry norms.Erin highlights the importance of relational, equity-centered leadership, which involves creating a supportive environment through active listening and engagement. She addresses retention challenges and the truly counter-cultural work of inclusion and systemic change. Join us for a very open conversation about our blind spots, power-sharing in leadership, and the self-compassion required to make it stick. Like:Asking for, listening to and implementing input is where it’s atHow we can turn our exclamation points into question marksWhere the anti-racism, anti-sexism fairy dust residesThe trappings of cancel cultureTaking a sec to acknowledge what’s working and build on itBig, sexy (self-) compliments go a long wayLinksCheck out one of Erin’s current projects, a Desegregation History Timeline (education aid to advance culture change)Connect with Erin StamppLinkedInInstagramFaux Sponsor, "Cartoon Mallet" - written and performed by Joan KannerTheme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music: Combat Morning by Den Writeman (via Pixabay)Music for Puzzle Game by Ivantraveso (via Pixabay)Executive Producers,  Joan Kanner and Michelle BondPodcast cover art by Lisa OryePodcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fmFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Guests - Kait Klusewitz (she/her), Muralist/Artist | Caroline Lampinen (she/her), ArtistThere was so much goodness in our conversation with Kait and Caro that we couldn't fit it all into the full episode. This mighty bonus episode continues with the artists discussing the very real costs of stress and short turnaround times on last-minute, jobs and the true value of your time when being an entrepreneur.Our co-host, Joan Kanner, also tees up important questions about intellectual property for artists and start-ups in general. While it may not be top of mind at first, our guests demonstrate that there can be a lot to say on the topic, and that it's never too soon to think about the kind of business you want to be in relation to protecting your work.Enjoy this bit of extra tasty content from Proofing Stage.You can also hear more from Joan about IP and the restaurant industry on the Novel and Non-Obvious podcast.Theme music by Thorn HazePodcast cover art by Lisa OryeExecutive Producers,  Joan Kanner and Michelle BondEditing and mixing by Joan KannerFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Guests - Kait Klusewitz (she/her), Muralist/Artist | Caroline Lampinen (she/her), ArtistBringing art to business and business to art, hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner dive into a vibrant discussion on "Proofing Stage" with two extraordinary creatives. Kait Klusewitz and Caroline Lampinen join the episode to unpack the powerful intersection of creativity and social impact. Celebrated for their engagement with community and social movements—particularly their support for the Black Lives Matter initiative—they share how they've transitioned from “W2” jobs to self-employment and roles that fuse passion and talent with purpose and personal well-being.The conversation spans the essential tactics for setting both personal and professional boundaries. From navigating client expectations to appropriately valuing their creative output, Kait and Caroline deliver actionable advice not just for artists but for any entrepreneur.For anyone drawn to entrepreneurship, art, or social advocacy, this episode is a treasure trove of insights on handling the hurdles of small business ownership while using one’s craft to foster community and advocate for change. Tune in to hear Michelle, Joan, and their guests explore the art of running businesses that do more than just succeed—they make a significant impact.Gems include:Sometimes the $$$ just isn’t worth itSetting boundaries for yourself, not just othersHaving an art soulmate is (okay) everythingBurnout can mean you’re not charging enoughDeveloping a signature artistic style takes timeThe power of leveraging your industry’s ecosystemResentment isn’t just a River in Egypt!LinksConnect with Kait Klusewitz:Kait K Designs, She/Her@kaitkdesignshttps://www.kaitkdesigns.com/Connect with Caroline Lampinen,Artist, Okay Everything, She/Her@okay_everythinghttps://okayeverything.com/More on working with Creatives: S1: EP9, Points for Creativity“The Capers Song” written and performed by Katie LongTheme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music: “Downfall” by AlisaBeats (via Pixabay)Podcast cover art by Lisa OryeExecutive Producers,  Joan Kanner and Michelle BondPodcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fmFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Some pods offer a peek behind the curtain. But in today's bonus episode, Michelle and Joan give peeks inside their heads!Now that they're doing the asking, whose asking acts as examples to emulate?And, yes, you'll be left asking yourself "wait, who had their own talk show?!"Some delicious samples from this bonus served up in paper soufflé cups below:Michelle:"These are things you maybe you talk about with your friends over a happy hour and you commiserate and then you go on to do something else. But if they're actually, in our case, real barriers to not only us, but lots of other people being able to not only go after their dreams, but have financial wellbeing. So, maybe we should talk about them."Joan:"For so many years, if not decades, I did not know I had the right to inquire, to ask people to explain or clarify things, which is a big deal."Podcast cover art by Lisa OryeExecutive Producers,  Joan Kanner and Michelle BondFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

“There is so much false urgency I have fallen prey to that I’ve learned about through this business. I don’t want to see other people making those mistakes, especially women,” says Joan Kanner on past challenges in business. Alongside co-host Michelle Bond, they kick off the second season of Proofing Stage. Likening the podcast to a business self-defense course, Michelle and Joan aim to equip female business owners with the necessary knowledge to fend off unexpected or unfair obstacles.The duo shares their diverse backgrounds and their journey from career frustrations to creating their own ventures: a company driven by karma, a music app, and their crave-able concept, Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB). As they take stock of their first season, they reflect on their growth as queer female founders and the role of the podcast in offering business insights and enhancing their network. They discuss the expansive potential of podcasts and their mission as force multipliers—to be the mentors and coaches they didn’t have. Today's episode sets the stage for what’s to come in Season 2 and acknowledges the great work of Season 1 producer and contributor, Amanda Schwarz. Michelle and Joan hint at a lineup of diverse guests for the new season and explore the concept of “proofing” across different fields. Whether you are tuning in to build your business chops or just learn from real people with genuine stories Proofing Stage is set to rise to the occasion. So, join Michelle and Joan as they:Put the "omen" in womenGive a nod to their best teachers Institute a crash course in defensive entrepreneurshipPreview upcoming guests and topicsSurprisingly hold back on their use of expletives------Theme music by Thorn HazePodcast cover art by Lisa OryeExecutive Producers,  Joan Kanner and Michelle BondPodcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fmFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Not just business as usual!Proofing Stage provides real talk, actionable guidance, lessons learned (don't make the mistakes we did) and the validation that YOU ARE NOT CRAZY (like when you've been gaslit) for female business owners. Season 1 laid the foundation by unpacking 8 years of running a successful food business. Now Joan and Michelle continue the discussion with a cadre of brilliant, straight-shooting guests. Available now anywhere you get your pods. Listen. Subscribe. Spread the word.Theme music by Thorn HazeArtwork by Lisa OryeFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Ever walk away from an exchange with someone “trying to help” whose brilliant suggestions leave you feeling frustrated or drained? Or, maybe you’ve been that well-intentioned person who has missed the mark? Worse yet, you may not know either way. In between seasons Joan and Michelle discuss recent experiences (good and bad!) and dissect the all-too-frequent tendency to leap before listening. And, we offer a simple hack to trick us all into doing better.Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Have you ever found yourself frozen in a moment, opportunity dangling before your eyes, only to hesitate and miss out? Picture this: a room full of college freshmen, a motivational speaker, and a single $50 bill that sparked a revelation Joan has carried with her into her forties. On this bonus episode of Proofing Stage, Joan takes you back to her freshman orientation at Montclair State University.Listen for a candid reflection on the insights that simmer over time and discover why, when the next chance comes your way, you might just find yourself reaching out with unhesitating eagerness.Carpe cash!Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

We're celebrating the end of Season 1 with big slice of creativity, talking inspiration and intention with a generous sprinkling of strategy. After all, if you've started a business or dream of starting one, you've got that creative inside you. Whether it's thinking about a different way to design your venture altogether, or giving it just the right vibe or visual representation, your business and your brand is an extension of you. So, take some time to get it right and be PROUD of what you've created. In this season finale the creative forces behind Proofing Stage discuss the unexpected approaches to some of Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB) menu items, events, commercials and antics. And, it's more than just a good time with: the purpose of cementing your brand, connecting with your customers and driving business. We zero in on finding the right professional creatives to materialize a vision, and how to develop working relationships that respect what each party brings to the table. In doing so, we share examples from our journey together on Proofing Stage this season, and what's to come. Imbuing business with creativity isn't new.But what do you do when it's all up to you?Business title and item names are an obvious place.Next up: merch design - hope your illustrator's an ace!Marketing videos won't land if you don't have a clueOf what you want, or who can deliver that to you.So take heed, and do listen upTo this final episode of the season, Cheers! Bottoms Up!Break this one up if you need to, but don't miss any of these hits that surely stick the landing.And, check out our Instagram for the puppets. BUB TV:Spend Some Time with Miss Michelle [Romper Room spoof]Contactless vs No-ContactMichelle as Mary Tyler Moore [Roadshow promotional video]Foraging with JoanHalitos - One Seed Makes Everything [Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos spoof]Theme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by: AlisiaBeats (via Pixabay)Artwork by Lisa OryeFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

We're approaching the end of Season 1, but not before a jam-packed episode on creativity and collaborations to help amplify your food business. This bonus clip covers important considerations for your brand's visual identity, including who can help and when to drop the big bucks:Whether working with a firm or independent designer, ask them in advance about:Their project discovery process In addition to logo, which visual branding pieces they provide (e.g. style guide)And, remember:Logo ≠ brand identityTake time to get to know your customer well before dumping a lot of money into version 1 of your logoCheck out a designer's portfolio before reaching out to them: if you don't like what you see, move onFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

The level of difficulty is slowly intensifying for the BUB crew as they embark on new formats and increasingly longer Roadshow stops from 2021-2023. From overcoming obstacles like staffing shortages and supply chain shortfalls to equipment breakdowns, team injuries and illness, the gnarly bits of taking the bagel show on the road abound.But, as Amanda and BUB's co-founders discuss, there are community connections and piles of scrumptious bagels, lox and sandwiches to make the trip(s) worthwhile. Episode 8 includes highlights from the likes of Cohoes, NY, Columbus, OH and Cedar Rapids, IA. Each with its own personality and flavor, these locations make the Roadshow an unmatched experience for Bottoms Up Bagels and communities alike. As always, we're a-learnin' and a-sharin':Don't let them see you sweatDo follow through on your promisesDon't try lifting heavy equipmentDo honor peoples' loyaltyDon't use vendors you can't rely onDo bring a film crew (whenever possible)Don't eat salad from ______ restaurant in Cedar Rapids, IADo calibrate your production to meet demandDon't underestimate what you've learnedDo be a respectful Away TeamDon't forget you're still the expert - no matter where you goDo be thankful for the yeses (as much as the noes)Don't miss out on local colorDo leave them wanting moreFaux Sponsor, "Bakers4Bakers4Bakers"- written and performed by Joan KannerTheme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by: VITOVI (via Pixabay)Additional music by: saavane (via Pixabay)Artwork by Lisa OryeLinks:Boffo Bagel Business for Pop Up in Cohoes (article)Baltimore’s Bottoms Up Bagels Pops Up in Columbus (article)New Jersey bagel shop to hold pop-ups at NewBo City Market, Marion (article; ignore the delightful typo)The BUB Roadshow video (Lonely Planet's version featuring Iowa)Nominate Your Town Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

As the Roadshow rolls on, Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB) begins to hire locally for stops in various cities. In our next full episode, we'll relive some of those hits, but today's clip is decidedly about the misses.From would-be employees with a penchant for grand theft to those who've taken a swing at law enforcement (literally), we're exposing the hilarious, often alarming disconnect between cover letters (AI-generated ones to be specific) and the actual individuals behind them.Speaking of AI, the Proofing Stage crew doubles down on the tomes of future bonus content we're collecting. Enjoy!Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Earlier in the pod we introduced the BUB Roadshow, Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB)'s way of busting the water myth and testing new markets for expansion. Part bagel pop up - part traveling circus - at its core, "The Roadshow" is about bringing good bagels to more people with local communities at its center. Today, Joan, Amanda and Michelle pull back the curtain on the how, and the why (oh, why?!) of doing an insane thing on top of the already questionable thing of running a small business. Because when you know your customer is everywhere, you go find them.In this, the first of two episodes about the Roadshow, we explore: #BozangelesWhy is there an "it's the water that makes a great bagel" myth? Who does that serve? What does it say about people who don't live in the NJ, NY, CT tri-state area?We learn about pay-what-you-can restaurants - and serve breakfast and lunch out of one.Michelle rises to the occasion of high altitude baking.Our crazy extensive menu leaves us asking #whatthehuck were we thinking?!SPOILER ALERT: The decision to be the culinary "away team" doesn't suck. SPOILER-ER ALERT: There's no hero's welcome when returning to Baltimore.Hold up, is anyone else hankering for a Sailor's Club right now?CW: Adult languageVideos- The BUB Roadshow (1 min., 30 seconds)- Tales from the Roadshow (1 min.)Faux Sponsor, "Mickey 2-Thumbs' Water Service"- written and performed by Joan KannerTheme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by: VITOVI (via Pixabay)Additional music by: SergeQuadrado (via Pixabay)Artwork by Lisa OryeFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

No Surgeon General's Warning needed for this bonus content. Catch us chatting about smoking of the savory smokin' kind. Meats. Dairy. Pellets vs. chips. Indoor vs. outdoor. This little excerpt didn't make the cut for our conversation about the BUB Roadshow in Bozeman, Montana, but it's full of flavor. Enjoy this preview of what's to come when full episodes of Proofing Stage resume THIS Wednesday, 2/7.#smokedmeats #bbqbitches #smokinhot #beefbrisket #briskethashFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

The air was thick with election fever, but even thicker with the scent of fresh bagels.Imagine our surprise when what we thought was a media frenzy for our beloved bagel bonanza at the Marion Public Library turned into an impromptu meet-and-greet with a Republican presidential candidate! In today's bonus episode, Michelle and Joan recap this somewhat humorous, mostly unnerving, Tale from the Roadshow. Join us for laughs, a sprinkle of politics, and a whole lot of heart from the Proofing Stage team.Then on Feb. 7th, we resume new episodes with a focus on the Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB) Roadshow. This bonus episode is just a taste of what's in store.Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Any small business involves risk, often calculated and sometimes underestimated. Still, the brands you love press on every day through countless obstacles and decisions, bringing a team and the desire to not skip a beat along for the ride. But, what's behind your favorite place setting up shop, or shuttering its doors? This episode covers the ground from BUB Hub beta's build out and the team finally having a space of their own, through the end of the initial lease term - all against the backdrop of a global pandemic. We also remind you (and us) why this journey is worthwhile.Hard-won victories, lessons learned and pro-tips abound, like:In the world of commercial real estate, what's a vanilla shell? Moreover, what's got Joan feeling like a cold dark shell?Negotiating for graduated rentWe stop ourselves short from unpacking health department and building inspection processesThe eustress (not me-stress) of movingHow "coming soon" is a phrase that shouldn't be used lightlyPaying to build out a space you don't ownAmanda creates a colorful new expletiveWhy property ownership makes sense for small businesses"I"m a real estate startup, and I'm here to help... our investors!"Treating people like crap when you think you're better than themGreen means go. Yellow means caution. Red (flags) mean nothing when you have no options.Whoever dies with the most toys winsWhen landlords gaslight you"The Wire" helps us explain some thingsRewarding landbankersDid someone say "conspiracy?"Michelle's pitch for you to "like and subscribe"CW: Adult languageTheme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by AlisiaBeats (via Pixabay)Artwork by Lisa OryeFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

It's 2019 and Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB) is feeling the pinch of increased overhead while working with a limited business model - relying on pop ups, catering and wholesale without everyday direct-to-customer sales opportunities. The wheels are set in motion though, and the dream of production meeting retail in BUB's first brick and mortar is on its way to being realized. At this, our halfway point of Season 1, Amanda follows Joan and Michelle through the early stages of locating a space for the future home of their business, and digs into the balance between finding fertile ground, making space in your community for beautiful things to happen, and what it takes to even get to the starting line. Episode 5 also breaks down some terms we've been tossing around:Land BankingBUB RoadshowBUB Hub betaWe then get into the nitty gritty of:Moving from a shared kitchen to a shop of our ownWhat it takes to find a space: the timeline is no jokeWe answer the "Why Harwood?" questionADA compliance and the importance of making spaces accessibleNational Main Streets programsOpen production: theatrical yet transparentHow yesterday's bagels are simply not. a. thing.Building the Proofing Stage community - we want to hear from you!CW: Adult languageLinks:Main Street AmericaPlacemaking in the Era of Ghost Kitchens, BBGA Fall 2021Theme music by Thorn HazeArtwork by Lisa OryeFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Are you a food entrepreneur who's considering moving your business into a food hall?Here's Michelle's primer on which questions to ask - so you can get the answers you need. She covers:- Square footage and layout- Common areas- Build-out and outfitting- Types of lease structuresIt's time to equip yourself with knowledge - and Michelle's here to help!Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

What's that they say about hindsight? Sometimes we're fortunate to see red flags in real time. But, most times it takes a while. And, even then we can still be left wondering what happened. Or, whose version of events were "right." Then, throw in the question of intentions (known and unknown) and it's easy to give up on the prospect of ever really understanding the meaning of a given situation. But here at Proofing Stage, we never give up. We're trying to put past business experiences into context and bring what learnings there are forward for us, and for you, dear listener. This week we continue the conversation about systems by focusing on gatekeepers and "mentorship." What options are there for growth when you're just starting out, and does true collaboration really exist? We uncover who gets asked what kinds of questions (prevention over promotion, much?) and debate the merits of food halls as amenities that are the brain child of development companies versus viable stepping stones for budding business to launch into prime time.Joan, Amanda and Michelle are a little punchy this week, and talkin':Nepo babiesA Nepo baby who made a play for BUB's recipesThe woman guised as a mentor who enabled said nepo babyGatekeepersNon-competes in commercial leasesNDAs, but like, the good kindDoes anyone have enough data to truly vote with their dollar?Being told that you don't know what you do know CW: Adult languageTheme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by rain_of_thrones (via Pixabay) Artwork by Lisa OryeFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

In the spirit of the new year, we're sharing our aspirations. What are yours?In a recent production meeting, Michelle, Amanda and Joan asked: "What's your hope for this podcast?" This BTS bonus episode begins to answer that question... Some highlights below:Joan:"It had to have catharsis, but also have catharsis with meaning [outside of us]. I feel like just a bitch session for us would not be meaningful to listeners and also readers...So it's important to like to meaningfully share something, to establish who we - all the three of us - are, actually, to see if people want to continue on this journey with us and to bring people along as we go. But people are now listening to the foundational episodes and I think that's important to establish character and experience and see if anything resonates with people."Amanda:"I've been thinking about the catharsis that comes from creation a lot within the past, actually the past 24 hours, 48 hours. I was speaking with a friend of mine who's an author and we had brunch and it was really nice and we were talking about how well. I'm writing memoir right now and how there was one piece in particular that I had been carrying around for a really, really long time about a situation when I was very young and I wrote it and a very strange thing happened to me at least that you know, I think people talk about but they don't talk about as openly as they should is - that when you put it down on paper, you put it down and you're able to carry on."Michelle: "But you know that's a process, for lots of things is to just... put it down and then see what pieces of it you wanna pick up to go on your next journey, and that's for me it's very much that process. And then the bonus of seeing where it can go and what it brings out in people and if there's a community that we can help foster or connect to other communities talking about similar things, that's really exciting and it's been exciting to not be afraid to put our whole selves out there."Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

We're winding down our year and having some fun within the entrepreneurial landscape. What can prompt one human being to get up and go, can generate a Camden Yards-style wave of eyerolls from another. In this clip, not quite mini-sode, Joan runs down a few of 2023's standout CTAs for budding business owners.Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Ah, Anthony Bourdain, you are still deeply missed. What happens when the utopia of accessing commercial equipment, making your product with a bit more ease, and being around theoretically like-minds begins to fade? Here, the everyday challenges of scaling a food business butt up against culture clashes and finding your voice. What's in any of our control? And what should you look for when relying on other, more powerful, entities to help you build your dream? This double-wide episode gets down and dirty in the (shared) back of the house, while dishing out helpful hints for finding the right space to grow your business.Today, we're serving up...Different flavors of commercial kitchen spacesHow shared kitchens are a microcosm of larger systemsAll-you-can-eat unsolicited adviceFood business permit/license sherpas, and how you don't need themA light sprinkle of "fakers" vs "makers"When fines aren't [fine]A very special "Listener Take Note" momentTaking price incentives to an extreme: always read the billThe Pros, Cons, Bros and "C'mons" of sharing a kitchen #ultimateroommatescenarioSomeone taking "broom-swept" to a whole 'nother level.THE question: Did Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB) over-proof at the shared kitchen?And, the main course... Michelle brings down the house with a #standandeliver moment about a #kingmaker      - Heads up! This is required reading/listening for any female business ownerCW: Adult language and themesGlossaryRoadshowTilt skilletsLinkShared Kitchen Confidential- Joan's Oct. 2019 Ignite presentation (6 mins., 23 sec.)- I mean, how many one-liners are in this?!!!Theme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by ToniSound (via Pixabay), OctoSound (via Pixabay), Grand_Project (via Pixabay)Artwork by Lisa OryeFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Gather around for story-time... this mini-sode about the power of gifting yourself permission is more evergreen than seasonal. #impostersyndrome #loxtoreflecton #criticalcontrolpointFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

You're getting to know our founders a little more everyday. The context provider. The cut-to-the-chase-er. The outside observer. While the businesses we've begun are in different industries, the hustle is similar - living the literal dream while trying to make ends meet, and having the right tools for the job. Were we getting ready for a dog show? Nope. A theater performance? Nope. A farmers market? YES! This week, you'll learn about Bottoms Up Bagels' (BUB's) first sales day - which was not unlike the build up and culmination of a Christopher Guest movie. Whether you are an over-complicator, over-achiever or just thrive on the "figuring it out" of entrepreneurship, this episode is for you.But first, here are the other tasty, crispy bits on the edge of this podcast lasagne:There is a big difference between your friends liking your food and strangers liking what you make. Related, cooking for 4 people is different from prepping a variety of foods for 100.How Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB) got its name. Spoiler alert: We're not florid alcoholics.When it's time for a career changeHear Michelle read to lo-fi beats. So soothing!What's your MVP (Minimally Viable Product?)Introduction to Joan's Foreshadowing Moment segmentsPrepping for your first sales opportunityWhat's a Black Russian bagel and can you still call it that?Defining "traction"Microdosing hospitality life (in the arsenic sense)Food business start-up Growing Pains - minus Bible ManWe unpack what Joan means by "The Drug."Motivation to pick up the pace can come from anywhereAnd does polyamory apply to prep kitchen usage? I mean...CW: Adult language and themes; pro-caper sentimentLinks:Maryland Cottage Food Business ResourcesServSafe®Small Business SaturdayTheme music by Thorn HazeAdditional music by Pumpupthemind (via Pixabay)Artwork by Lisa OryeFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Joan shares why the Proofing Stage pod is important to her, and to us. Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Michelle and Joan are doers. They don't just have ideas, they go after them - sometimes too hard and for too long. Sometimes to great success and following. This first episode of Proofing Stage lays the groundwork for why, after a professional lifetime of going after things, creating and improving, it's time to take a look back and figure out where to go from here. And, why doing it with others is the only way to do it. As the episode title suggests, we answer the question: "Why are we doin' the podcast?" Together with our host, Amanda, the answer includes:Capturing years of entrepreneurshipShining a light on the challenging experiences we face as minority business ownersDescribing what Michelle and Joan did before the bagel bizExplaining how businesses reflect their foundersDemonstrating what goes into a minimally viable productFostering communityTalking about how others perceive your dreamsTo open up our networksHighlighting mistakes for others to learn fromBecause the hustle and grind wants to keep us from communingAlong the way, you learn more about Joan, Michelle and Amanda.And, yes, Michelle explains the significance of this pod's name. CW: Seasoned with explicit languageLinks:Fugue the App"Descent into Sadness" (Fugue app commercial)"Through the Ages" (Fugue app commercial)Karmic MessengerBottoms Up BagelsTheme music by Thorn HazeArtwork by Lisa OryeFind more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

Welcome to Proofing Stage. We're here for it. And, you're in for a treat. Find more at proofingstage.comFollow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstageJoin Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.