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Trapital — 326 episodes

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1

When AI Writes Code and Makes Music, What's Left for Humans?

2

Find Your Interstellar: Why Some Art Ages Well

3

Why Everything Feels the Same Now

4

K-Pop's Paradox: Why BTS Fans Aren’t K-Pop Fans

5

Arena Tours: The Truth Behind “Blue Dot Fever”

6

Music Catalogs: Is There Ever A Good Time to Sell?

7

Troy Carter on Why Suno Changes Everything

8

Artists and AI: Offense, Defense, and the Future of Music

9

SoundCloud’s Big Bet for the AI Era

10

Clive Davis Part 2: Reviving Careers, Industry Power, and Leaving a Legacy

11

Clive Davis Part 1: Whitney Houston, Resilience, and The World's Greatest Party

12

Coachella’s Dilemma: Stadium Money vs. Festival Money

13

Talent Agencies: Who Leads the Next Era?

14

Can AI Music Creation Be a Real Growth Market?

15

Live Nation and DOJ Settled. Now What?

16

Private Investors Love Music. Why Doesn’t Wall Street?

17

Trapital: Where Business Meets Culture

18

Is The Sphere… A Good Business?

19

Follow The Money: EVEN, Duetti, and The New Deal Stack

20

Why Netflix and Spotify Won in Paid Streaming

21

Inside Grammy Week: Galas, Deal Rooms, and “The Two Grammys”

22

Can YouTube Have It All?

23

The Rise of Reels: Meta’s $50B Ad Machine

24

Music is a $47 Billion Industry. Why Isn’t It Bigger?

25

Polymarket and Kalshi: Financial Tools or Casinos?

26

How MTV Lost Its Way

27

Five Bold Predictions: Netflix and Spotify, AI-Powered Industry, The Big 3’s Future, and More

28

What's a Grammy Worth? New Voters, New Winners, and Rewriting History

29

Building Businesses Around Artists with Firebird Music CEO Nathan Hubbard

30

Investing in Music Rights with Shamrock Capital’s Jason Sklar

31

Udio CEO Andrew Sanchez on AI’s Future in Music

32

Steve Pamon on How to Create Moments That Matter

33

Andreea Gleeson on TuneCore’s Next Chapter

34

Kakul Srivastava on Why Splice Acquired Spitfire Audio

35

Oliver Schusser on Apple’s Strategy in Music, AI’s Potential, and the Super Bowl Halftime Show

36

Elliot Grainge on Atlantic’s Future, AI, and Selling 10K Projects

37

Trapital Summit Recap: Venue Surprise, Highlights, and Behind the Scenes Moments

38

How Much Is The Weeknd's Music Really Worth?

39

Have Record Labels Turned Into Private Equity Firms?

40

The Business Behind Iconic Music Catalogs

41

Revisiting The Sphere (Rewind)

42

Algorithms vs. Curators: YouTube’s Role in Breaking Through The Noise

43

Trapital Summit: Sep 10 in LA. A few announcements...

44

Record Labels Want Market Share, But At What Cost?

45

How Will Taylor Swift’s Masters Ownership Saga Be Remembered?

46

Why Artist Development Matters More Than Ever

47

Does Hip-Hop Still Run Luxury Fashion?

48

America Streams American. The World Follows.

49

The Business of Soundtracking the Creator Economy

50

Tariffs, Tours, and Trade Wars: Why Music Investment Won’t Slow Down

51

The 2025 Live Music Draft

52

The $10B+ Blind Spot in B2B Streaming

53

Why Legacy Rock Bands Still Love Music Festivals

54

How to Win on YouTube

55

Coachella’s Layaway Plan, Tubi’s Long Game , Lucian Grainge’s Legacy

56

How TikTok Got Caught in the Trade War

57

Inside Spotify’s $10B Payout to the Music Industry

58

Streaming Growth Slowed Down. What’s Next?

59

Apple Music Turns 10: Is It a Success?

60

Reddit: How To Monetize a Marketer’s Goldmine

61

Do True Moguls Still Exist?

62

WhatsApp is a Cultural Force. Will it Make More Money?

63

Can New Superstars Ever Surpass Current Superstars (Revisited!)

64

Who is ‘Spotify Music Pro’ Really For?

65

Meta’s Media Strategy: An On-Again, Off-Again Relationship

66

The Biggest Surprises in Streaming

67

Disney’s Pop Star Pipeline

68

What’s Next for TikTok?

69

How the Podcast Mega Deals Evolved

70

How YouTube Became Every Company’s Competition

71

Spotify’s Road to $100B and Profitability

72

Winners and Losers of 2024: Part 2

73

Winners and Losers of 2024: Part 1

74

What Superfans Really Want with SoundCloud CEO Eliah Seton - Trapital Summit

75

The State of Hip-Hop with Def Jam CEO Tunji Balogun - Trapital Summit

76

The Future of Music Creation with Splice CEO Kakul Srivastava - Trapital Summit

77

Founder Mode vs. Manager Mode with Believe’s Denis Ladegaillerie - Trapital Summit

78

Unpacking The Value of Music

79

What is Drake's Goal?

80

What's Next After Streaming? Troy Carter - Trapital Summit

81

Will TikTok Become Too Big to Ban?

82

AI and Music - Trapital Summit

83

Inside the NFL and Roc Nation Partnership

84

The Future of Music Rights with Sherrese Clarke Soares - Trapital Summit

85

Why The Grammys Moved to Disney

86

Ghazi on EMPIRE's Rise in Music - Trapital Summit

87

Clive Davis: The Business Behind The Golden Ears

88

It's Time to Hear From You

89

Where Does Drake Go From Here?

90

Trapital Summit: October 3 in Los Angeles

91

The Oprah Effect

92

What Music's Next Growth Phase Will Look Like

93

Inside the Sphere and the Future of Entertainment

94

Why The Live Nation-DOJ Lawsuit Missed The Mark

95

StubHub: The Complicated World of Reselling Tickets

96

50 Cent: From Trolling to Triumph

97

Who Wins When There's More Music Than Ever?

98

Quincy Jones: One of Ones

99

Arena Tours: The Art and Science Behind Sold Out Shows

100

Why Now Is The Best Time to Be An Artist

101

A24 Wants to Evolve, But Can it Maintain its Brand?

102

Why Top Artists Stick with Major Labels

103

The Generative AI Music Sweepstakes

104

Why NPR Tiny Desk Is Still a Phenomenon

105

Why Penske Bought All The Media Companies

106

How Hip-Hop Beef Evolved in the Streaming Era

107

Inside KKR's Investments in Music

108

What Taylor Swift's Return to TikTok Means for Universal Music Group

109

What's Next for Diddy's Businesses?

110

Do Music Festivals Have a Superstar Problem?

111

Do Major Record Labels Still Have Brand Identity?

112

UMG vs TikTok, Kids’ Music, and Beyonce - Verizon (Trapital mailbag episode)

113

What’s Next For Concert Films?

114

Why We’re Still Early on AI Music

115

The Oscars: Hit Songs, All the Drama, and Tons of Money

116

Virgil Abloh: Off-White, Luxury, and Open-Source Fashion

117

Yeezy: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

118

The Rise of Las Vegas Concert Residencies

119

SoundCloud and the Future of Superfans

120

The Business Behind The Grammys

121

How Insurance Ads Became the Industry Standard

122

Why Radio Still Matters

123

Can New Superstars Ever Surpass Current Superstars?

124

Why Celebrity Fast Food Meals Took Off

125

Adidas: Sneakers, Hip-Hop and Culture

126

YouTube’s Impact on Music

127

Why Music is a $40+ Billion Industry

128

Reebok: Sneakers, Hip-Hop, and Missed Opportunities

129

The Trapital Report 2023

130

Apple’s Impact on Music: From iPods to AirPods

131

Trapital Report coming soon!

132

Pandora: a 3-1 Lead in Music Streaming

133

Stanford GSB: The Future of Music - 2023 Black Leadership Conference

134

Def Jam Recordings: A 40-Year Legacy

135

Investing in Music, Songs of the Summer, Pop Star Decline, and Creator Trends

136

The Music Industry: A Tale of Two Cities

137

Napster's Impact on Music and Culture

138

MTV: Music Videos, Reality TV, and Ridiculousness

139

Unpacking the Economics of Taylor Swift

140

Hip-Hop's 50 Greatest Moguls

141

The State of the Middle-Class Artist

142

What’s Next for Travis Scott?

143

Motown Records: The Hit Factory That Changed Music Forever

144

The Real Story Behind Hip-Hop's "Decline"

145

30 years of Bad Boy Entertainment (with Zack Greenburg)

146

Why Music Streaming Can’t Agree on a Payout Model (with Lucas Shaw)

147

Do Music Videos Still Matter? (with Tati Cirisano)

148

How Ice Spice Blew Up (with Denisha Kuhlor)

149

The Rise and Fall of Roc-A-Fella Records (with Zack O'Malley Greenburg)

150

The State of Music (with Will Page)

151

Artist Independence (with Steve Stoute)

152

How Brands Become Ideologies (with Marcus Collins)

153

Rerun: How KevOnStage is Building His Comedy Flywheel

154

The Rise of Interscope Records (with Zack Greenburg)

155

Rerun: Investing $200 Million In Music with Matt Pincus

156

The Business Behind Coachella (with Tati Cirisano)

157

Rerun: The Future Of Music Business With Economist Will Page

158

Picking The Most Valuable Music Catalog Portfolio (with Denisha Kuhlor)

159

The Short-Form Video Wars: TikTok vs Shorts vs Reels (with Tati Cirisano)

160

Africa’s Music and Startup Future (with Mr Eazi)

161

The Future of Music and Gaming (with Vickie Nauman)

162

The Rise of Burna Boy (with Denisha Kuhlor)

163

Where Web2 and Web3 Meet (with Cardin Campbell)

164

Investing in New Music Startups (with Bob Moczydlowsky)

165

Rihanna, Roc Nation, and the Super Bowl Halftime Show (with DJ Louie XIV)

166

Why It’s Not Too Late to Start on TikTok (with Sean “BrandMan” Taylor)

167

How Cash Money Records Pulled Off Hip-Hop’s Louisiana Purchase (with Zack O’Malley Greenburg)

168

Why Algorithms are Getting Smarter with Ari Herstand

169

How Diddy is Underestimated as a Businessman

170

NYU Keynote: Music, Streaming, and Second-Order Effects

171

Trapital Mailbag: A.I. in Music, Future of NFTs, Hip-Hop Globalization, and More!

172

Turnover at Motown, Berner's Billion-Dollar Weed Business, and Hip-Hop's Wealthiest of 2022

173

Why The Next 10 Years Of Rich Homie Quan’s Career Won’t Be Like The Last

174

Investing in Web3 Music with Coopahtroopa

175

What Spotify and YouTube’s Billions Playlists Tell Us About Streaming

176

How a16z’s Cultural Leadership Fund Is Putting More Black Dollars in Tech

177

The Culture Report, and DICE President on Making Music Ticketing Less Transactional

178

How HitPiece Rebounded and Relaunched After Controversy

179

How Curren$y Played The Long Game With His Career & Jet Life

180

Rap Capital: The Rise & Reign Of Atlanta’s Hip-Hop Empire

181

Mona Scott-Young’s Influence On Culture Goes Beyond Love & Hip Hop

182

Inside Hannibal Buress’ Pivot From Comedy To Rap

183

The Music Industry’s Oversaturation Problem

184

How Roy Wood Jr. Is Evolving His Comedy

185

TikTok Wants to Takeover. Will it Succeed?

186

Investing $200 Million In Music with Matt Pincus

187

How Virtual Characters Are Done Right

188

Inside the Business of Beatmaking

189

Post Malone’s Agent Breaks Down Strategy Behind His Success

190

Inside Benny Pough’s Career in Hip-Hop

191

How Does the Music Business Compare To Film And TV?

192

Why Talib Kweli is Focused on his Fans

193

What Every Artist and Creator Needs to Know Before Signing Contracts

194

Improving The Artist-Fan Relationship

195

Sherrese Clarke Soares Explains Why Content Is Queen

196

How Drake and Beyoncé Drop New Music

197

Broken Record: Missy Elliott

198

Stem CEO Milana Lewis Wants To Get Artists Paid

199

Bay Area Hip-Hop with Rexx Life Raj

200

Why the Golden State Warriors Launched a Record Label

201

The iPod’s Legacy in the Music Industry with Zack O’Malley Greenburg

202

Comedian Bigg Jah Charters His Own Path Into Entertainment Industry

203

How indify’s Co-Founder prettyboyshav Is Flipping The Economics Of The Record Business

204

Young M.A and the $20 NFT

205

How Fanbase Raised $6 Million Without VC with Isaac Hayes III

206

The Future Of Music Business With Economist Will Page

207

Audiomack CMO Dave Ponte’s Plan to Grow the Pie for Artists

208

The Broccoli City Music Festival

209

Why Podcast Ownership Matters with Brittany Luse and Eric Eddings of “For Colored Nerds”

210

How Kevin Liles Built 300 Entertainment Into A $400 Million Business In Under 10 Years

211

How Quality Control Music Invests in Startups

212

Frank Cooper III Brokered Beyonce-Pepsi’s $50 Million Deal. Here’s Where He Sees Industry Going Next

213

The Future Of Live Music with Kevin Shivers, Partner at WME

214

Bun B Believes The Metaverse Will Open Up Access Between Artists & Fans

215

How Tuma Basa is Bringing Black Music to the World with YouTube

216

How Junae Brown Became the ‘Beyoncé of Marketing’

217

BONUS: The New Creator Manifesto

218

How KevOnStage is Building His Comedy Flywheel

219

Troy Carter on the Future of Music Streaming

220

Ralph McDaniels on Video Music Box and Documenting Hip-Hop History

221

Master P on Bringing Culture to Corporate America (live from TMRE)

222

Issa Rae on Insecure, Ownership in Media, and Creator Economy Trends

223

Chris Taylor on MNRK's Rebrand, Managing Death Row Records Catalog, and Music's M&A Market

224

Charlie Kaplan on Audiomack Supporters, Artist-Fan Monetization, and Streaming Business Models

225

Tunde Balogun on Developing R&B Superstars, LVRN's Journey, and Mental Health in Music

226

Independent Artist Life with Flawless Real Talk (2020)

227

Steven Galanis on Cameo's Rise (2020)

228

Trapital Mailbag #5: Blockchain Opportunities in Music, Middle Class Musicians, Astroworld, Indie vs Major Record Labels, and more

229

Dave Mays on The Source's Legacy, Launching Breakbeat, and State of Hip-Hop Media

230

Sacha Jenkins on Rick James Life and Times, the Rise of Music Documentaries, and Hip Hop 50

231

Zack O'Malley Greenburg on How Music Leads Innovation, Forbes to Substack, and Hip-Hop's Next Billionaire

232

Mary Rahmani on TikTok Artist Strategies, Launching Moon Projects, and Influencer Partnerships

233

Mike Weissman on SoundCloud's Creator Strategy, Web 3.0, and Building a Music Entertainment Business

234

Steve Stoute on Artist Independence, UnitedMasters, Translation, and Facilitating Fan Access

235

Karl Fowlkes on Becoming an Entertainment Attorney, NBA Agent, and NIL Opportunities

236

DJ Semtex on Donda, Certified Lover Boy, Podcasting, and UK Hip-Hop

237

Rick Ross on Bossing Up, Building His Empire, WingStop, and his Investments

238

The OutKast Edge

239

A Campaign Breakdown on Tyler, The Creator’s “Call Me If You Get Lost” with Amber Horsburgh

240

24kGoldn on TikTok Success, Investments, and Record Label Deals

241

Mike G on Music Festivals, Touring, Young Thug, The Kid LAROI, and Chris Brown

242

Anthony Martini on Royalty Exchange, Music Royalties, NFTs, and Managing Lil Dicky and Tyga

243

Steve Rifkind on Loud Records, Spring Sound, Wu-Tang Clan, and the Family Business

244

Detavio Samuels on REVOLT, Digital and Cable Strategy, The Crew League, Black-owned Media, and Working with Diddy

245

Jamal Henderson on Space Jam, Structuring SpringHill, LeBron James, and the Creator Economy

246

Music Business Podcast: Trippie Redd's Manager Charlene Bryant on Hitting Billboard #1 and Launching Riveter Management

247

MixedByAli on EngineEars, TDE's Legacy, and Mixing for Kendrick Lamar and Dr. Dre

248

Call Me Ace on his Indie Rap Career, Building His Brand, and Still Working Full-Time

249

Benjy Grinberg on Rostrum Records, Wiz Khalifa and Mac Miller, and Mental Health

250

The Major Record Labels All Want Your Attention

251

Leron Rogers on Helping Artists Become Moguls, Entertainment Law, and Representing Rick Ross

252

Jonnyshipes on Cinematic Music Group, Indie Hip-Hop, and Building the Supreme for Music

253

Tarik Brooks, President of Combs Enterprises (2020)

254

Tracy Chan on Twitch Music, Helping Artists Monetize, and the Creator Economy

255

James Lindsay on Rap Snacks, BossUp Bank, Why Distribution Matters, and Managing Meek Mill

256

Trapital Mailbag! Hip-Hop’s Streaming Popularity, Rap Battle Leagues, Cancel Culture, Women Music Execs, and Record Labels

257

Brandon Pankey on Launching the APEX Video Network, Live Music’s Return, and Educating the Next Generation

258

Shawn Prez on Bad Boy, Black Rob, and PowerMoves Inc. (2020)

259

BrandMan Sean on Music Marketing, Common Mistakes Artists Make, and Working with 24KGoldn

260

The "Will and Jada" Playbook

261

Brian “Z” Zisook on DJBooth’s Run, Major Record Labels, Indie Artists, and Audiomack’s Partnerships

262

Dame Ritter on When “Ownership” Goes Too Far, Myths about Streaming and Touring, and Managing Comedians

263

Ibrahim "Ib" Hamad, Dreamville President (2020)

264

Micah Johnson on Selling $1M Worth of NFTs in 1 Minute, Transitioning from MLB to Fine Art, and Getting More Black Collectors Involved

265

Mick Batyske on How His DJ Career Led to Brand Deals, Angel Investing, and Startup Advising

266

Jay Z sells 50% of Ace of Spades, TikTok Artist’s Path to Success

267

Ted Lucas on Slip-N-Slide Records, Miami Hip-Hop, and R&B’s Comeback

268

J. Erving on Human Re-Sources, Sony Music's Acquisition, and How to Evaluate Talent

269

The Best Hip-Hop Album Rollouts of All-Time (with Ernest Wilkins)

270

Def Jam's Past, Present, and Future with Gary Suarez

271

Binta Brown on the State of the Music Industry, omalilly projects, and Black Music Action Coalition

272

Master P on Reebok, Ownership, Generational Wealth, and Lessons Learned from Reginald Lewis

273

Why Artists Are Selling Their Music Catalogs (with Karl Fowlkes)

274

Phylicia Fant on Developing Superstar Artists, Rising in the Music Industry, and Navigating 2020

275

Flawless Real Talk on Netflix’s Rhythm + Flow, Life as an Indie Artist, and Building His Fanbase

276

Daouda Leonard on CreateSafe, the Record Deal Simulator, and Empowering Artists to Manage Their Careers

277

Steven Galanis on Cameo’s Growing Marketplace and Closing the Gap Between Fame and Monetization

278

Dave Macli on Audiomack’s Role in Music Streaming, Partnership with DJBooth, and Global Expansion

279

Big Tech's Big Plans in the Music Industry with Cherie Hu

280

Alex "Al D" Damashek on a New Partnership With Twitch, Move Forward Music, and the Future of Live Music

281

Netflix's Black Content Strategy

282

The Best Hip-Hop Marketing Campaigns of All-Time with Marcus Collins

283

Jason Geter on Heavy Sound Labs, Launching Grand Hustle, Signing T.I. and Travis Scott, and Redefining the Modern Record Label

284

Donald Albright on Building a Podcast Network, Hip-Hop Marketing Tactics, and Tenderfoot TV’s Future

285

Hip-hop's Indie Economy

286

Tyler, The Creator's Cult-Like Following

287

Peter Bittenbender on Mass Appeal’s Rise, Holding Brand Partners Accountable, and International Expansion

288

Hip-Hop Challenger Brands with Ernest Wilkins

289

Roy Wood Jr. on How 2020 Changed Comedy, His Comedy Central Partnership, and Why Alabama Means So Much to Him

290

The Steve Jobs of Gap?

291

Hovain Hylton and Busy Rivera on Cinematic Music Group’s Rise, and Turning the Brand into a Lifestyle

292

Build Your Table

293

Hip-Hop's Role in the Fight for Justice

294

Trapital Mailbag #3: How Hip-Hop Makes Money in a Pandemic, Superproducers in the Streaming Era, What’s Next for Fortnite + Travis Scott, and more!

295

Tiffany Ballard on Music Business Law, Why Bad Deals Still Happen, How She Made Connections on Myspace, and Her Time on Reality TV

296

Zack O'Malley Greenburg (2019)

297

Ibrahim "Ib" Hamad on Building Dreamville, Managing J. Cole, the Dollar & a Dream Tour, and Starting the Dreamville Fest

298

Shawn Prez on the Bad Boy Street Team, Grassroots Marketing in Hip-Hop, and Starting the Global Spin Awards

299

Hannibal Buress on How Netflix Changed Comedy, His Investing Strategy, and Why Isola Fest is One of His Favorite Career Moments

300

Mike Weissman - President, SoundCloud (2019)

301

Akin Aliu - Music Touring Agent, CAA (2019)

302

James Supreme - A&R at Universal Music Publishing Group (2019)

303

Trapital Mailbag #2! D-Smoke’s Potential, Lovers & Friends Fest, Jay Z the Wartime Leader, The Cost of Album Bundles, and Def Jam…oh Def Jam

304

Lynzie Riebling on Gen Hip Hop, Quantifying the Power of the Hip-Hop Audience, and REVOLT’s Role in the Culture

305

Karl Fowlkes on Music Business Law, Combat Jack’s Influence, and Why He Hopes There are Less Lawyers in 20 Years

306

Jesse Kirshbaum on Nue Agency's Brand Marketing, #CRWN Interview Series, and the Future of Award Shows

307

Tarik Brooks on Combs Enterprises, Diddy’s Investment Strategy, and Managing a Portfolio of Brands

308

Steve Stoute on UnitedMasters, Partnership with Apple Music, Ownership in Hip-Hop, and Why Brands Value Indie Artists

309

Fantasy Record Labels? We’re Skeptical. (a Trapital - Water & Music Collaboration with Cherie Hu)

310

Milana Lewis on Stem’s Artist-First Strategy, How it Evolves in the Streaming Era, How the Company Makes Tough Decisions

311

Trapital Mailbag Special: Grammy Awards Woes, Young Rappers Most Likely to Become Moguls, and Thoughts on a Rappers Union

312

Why Netflix's 'Rhythm + Flow' Was a Hit

313

Mike Weissman on SoundCloud’s Creator Strategy, How it Compares to a Startup Accelerator, and What it Means to be a SoundCloud Rapper

314

Shea Serrano on the Economics of Book Publishing, ‘Movies (and Other Things),’ and How DJ Screw Inspired his Promotional Tactics

315

DJ Semtex on UK Hip-Hop’s Moment, Stormzy and Skepta Becoming Stars, Brexit’s Impact on the Culture, and Why Radio Still Matters

316

Akin Aliu on Life as a CAA Agent, Representing Ciara, and the “Rich Paul Rule”

317

James Supreme on Being the A&R Behind Lil’ Nas X “Panini”, G-Eazy's Management Team, and why Mental Health Matters in the Industry

318

Dame Ritter on Kanye West’s Sunday Services, Launching Music Entrepreneur Club, and How He Almost Signed Russ to a Deal

319

Zack O’Malley Greenburg on the Forbes Hip-Hop Cash List, the Controversy it Causes, and What it Took to Declare that Jay Z is a Billionaire

320

50 Cent is a Habitual Line Stepper

321

Moody Jones on marketing for Snoop Dogg, EMPIRE’s digital strategy, and why he wants to work with Childish Gambino

322

RapCaviar's Big Advantage

323

Roc Nation's Wild Year

324

The Hip-Hop Partnership Flywheel

325

No Tour, No Problem for Cardi B

326

Mathew Knowles on Beyoncé's Streaming Strategy, Solange's Marketing, and Dinner with Jay Z or $50,000