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Trapital — 334 episodes

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1

Buyer Beware: The Rise of Debt in Music Rights Deals

2

Who Will Win in the AI Music Courtroom?

3

What Dollywood Got Right About Artist-Led Businesses

4

Should Netflix Start Streaming Music?

5

Why Investors Are Looking Beyond Iconic Music Catalogs

6

Jay-Z’s Year of Offense, Explained

7

Bold Predictions: The Future for Songwriters and Creators

8

Remembering Clive Davis: 1932 - 2026

9

When AI Writes Code and Makes Music, What's Left for Humans?

10

Find Your Interstellar: Why Some Art Ages Well

11

Why Everything Feels the Same Now

12

K-Pop's Paradox: Why BTS Fans Aren’t K-Pop Fans

13

Arena Tours: The Truth Behind “Blue Dot Fever”

14

Music Catalogs: Is There Ever A Good Time to Sell?

15

Troy Carter on Why Suno Changes Everything

16

Artists and AI: Offense, Defense, and the Future of Music

17

SoundCloud’s Big Bet for the AI Era

18

Clive Davis Part 2: Reviving Careers, Industry Power, and Leaving a Legacy

19

Clive Davis Part 1: Whitney Houston, Resilience, and The World's Greatest Party

20

Coachella’s Dilemma: Stadium Money vs. Festival Money

21

Talent Agencies: Who Leads the Next Era?

22

Can AI Music Creation Be a Real Growth Market?

23

Live Nation and DOJ Settled. Now What?

24

Private Investors Love Music. Why Doesn’t Wall Street?

25

Trapital: Where Business Meets Culture

26

Is The Sphere… A Good Business?

27

Follow The Money: EVEN, Duetti, and The New Deal Stack

28

Why Netflix and Spotify Won in Paid Streaming

29

Inside Grammy Week: Galas, Deal Rooms, and “The Two Grammys”

30

Can YouTube Have It All?

31

The Rise of Reels: Meta’s $50B Ad Machine

32

Music is a $47 Billion Industry. Why Isn’t It Bigger?

33

Polymarket and Kalshi: Financial Tools or Casinos?

34

How MTV Lost Its Way

35

Five Bold Predictions: Netflix and Spotify, AI-Powered Industry, The Big 3’s Future, and More

36

What's a Grammy Worth? New Voters, New Winners, and Rewriting History

37

Building Businesses Around Artists with Firebird Music CEO Nathan Hubbard

38

Investing in Music Rights with Shamrock Capital’s Jason Sklar

39

Udio CEO Andrew Sanchez on AI’s Future in Music

40

Steve Pamon on How to Create Moments That Matter

41

Andreea Gleeson on TuneCore’s Next Chapter

42

Kakul Srivastava on Why Splice Acquired Spitfire Audio

43

Oliver Schusser on Apple’s Strategy in Music, AI’s Potential, and the Super Bowl Halftime Show

44

Elliot Grainge on Atlantic’s Future, AI, and Selling 10K Projects

45

Trapital Summit Recap: Venue Surprise, Highlights, and Behind the Scenes Moments

46

How Much Is The Weeknd's Music Really Worth?

47

Have Record Labels Turned Into Private Equity Firms?

48

The Business Behind Iconic Music Catalogs

49

Revisiting The Sphere (Rewind)

50

Algorithms vs. Curators: YouTube’s Role in Breaking Through The Noise

51

Trapital Summit: Sep 10 in LA. A few announcements...

52

Record Labels Want Market Share, But At What Cost?

53

How Will Taylor Swift’s Masters Ownership Saga Be Remembered?

54

Why Artist Development Matters More Than Ever

55

Does Hip-Hop Still Run Luxury Fashion?

56

America Streams American. The World Follows.

57

The Business of Soundtracking the Creator Economy

58

Tariffs, Tours, and Trade Wars: Why Music Investment Won’t Slow Down

59

The 2025 Live Music Draft

60

The $10B+ Blind Spot in B2B Streaming

61

Why Legacy Rock Bands Still Love Music Festivals

62

How to Win on YouTube

63

Coachella’s Layaway Plan, Tubi’s Long Game , Lucian Grainge’s Legacy

64

How TikTok Got Caught in the Trade War

65

Inside Spotify’s $10B Payout to the Music Industry

66

Streaming Growth Slowed Down. What’s Next?

67

Apple Music Turns 10: Is It a Success?

68

Reddit: How To Monetize a Marketer’s Goldmine

69

Do True Moguls Still Exist?

70

WhatsApp is a Cultural Force. Will it Make More Money?

71

Can New Superstars Ever Surpass Current Superstars (Revisited!)

72

Who is ‘Spotify Music Pro’ Really For?

73

Meta’s Media Strategy: An On-Again, Off-Again Relationship

74

The Biggest Surprises in Streaming

75

Disney’s Pop Star Pipeline

76

What’s Next for TikTok?

77

How the Podcast Mega Deals Evolved

78

How YouTube Became Every Company’s Competition

79

Spotify’s Road to $100B and Profitability

80

Winners and Losers of 2024: Part 2

81

Winners and Losers of 2024: Part 1

82

What Superfans Really Want with SoundCloud CEO Eliah Seton - Trapital Summit

83

The State of Hip-Hop with Def Jam CEO Tunji Balogun - Trapital Summit

84

The Future of Music Creation with Splice CEO Kakul Srivastava - Trapital Summit

85

Founder Mode vs. Manager Mode with Believe’s Denis Ladegaillerie - Trapital Summit

86

Unpacking The Value of Music

87

What is Drake's Goal?

88

What's Next After Streaming? Troy Carter - Trapital Summit

89

Will TikTok Become Too Big to Ban?

90

AI and Music - Trapital Summit

91

Inside the NFL and Roc Nation Partnership

92

The Future of Music Rights with Sherrese Clarke Soares - Trapital Summit

93

Why The Grammys Moved to Disney

94

Ghazi on EMPIRE's Rise in Music - Trapital Summit

95

Clive Davis: The Business Behind The Golden Ears

96

It's Time to Hear From You

97

Where Does Drake Go From Here?

98

Trapital Summit: October 3 in Los Angeles

99

The Oprah Effect

100

What Music's Next Growth Phase Will Look Like

101

Inside the Sphere and the Future of Entertainment

102

Why The Live Nation-DOJ Lawsuit Missed The Mark

103

StubHub: The Complicated World of Reselling Tickets

104

50 Cent: From Trolling to Triumph

105

Who Wins When There's More Music Than Ever?

106

Quincy Jones: One of Ones

107

Arena Tours: The Art and Science Behind Sold Out Shows

108

Why Now Is The Best Time to Be An Artist

109

A24 Wants to Evolve, But Can it Maintain its Brand?

110

Why Top Artists Stick with Major Labels

111

The Generative AI Music Sweepstakes

112

Why NPR Tiny Desk Is Still a Phenomenon

113

Why Penske Bought All The Media Companies

114

How Hip-Hop Beef Evolved in the Streaming Era

115

Inside KKR's Investments in Music

116

What Taylor Swift's Return to TikTok Means for Universal Music Group

117

What's Next for Diddy's Businesses?

118

Do Music Festivals Have a Superstar Problem?

119

Do Major Record Labels Still Have Brand Identity?

120

UMG vs TikTok, Kids’ Music, and Beyonce - Verizon (Trapital mailbag episode)

121

What’s Next For Concert Films?

122

Why We’re Still Early on AI Music

123

The Oscars: Hit Songs, All the Drama, and Tons of Money

124

Virgil Abloh: Off-White, Luxury, and Open-Source Fashion

125

Yeezy: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

126

The Rise of Las Vegas Concert Residencies

127

SoundCloud and the Future of Superfans

128

The Business Behind The Grammys

129

How Insurance Ads Became the Industry Standard

130

Why Radio Still Matters

131

Can New Superstars Ever Surpass Current Superstars?

132

Why Celebrity Fast Food Meals Took Off

133

Adidas: Sneakers, Hip-Hop and Culture

134

YouTube’s Impact on Music

135

Why Music is a $40+ Billion Industry

136

Reebok: Sneakers, Hip-Hop, and Missed Opportunities

137

The Trapital Report 2023

138

Apple’s Impact on Music: From iPods to AirPods

139

Trapital Report coming soon!

140

Pandora: a 3-1 Lead in Music Streaming

141

Stanford GSB: The Future of Music - 2023 Black Leadership Conference

142

Def Jam Recordings: A 40-Year Legacy

143

Investing in Music, Songs of the Summer, Pop Star Decline, and Creator Trends

144

The Music Industry: A Tale of Two Cities

145

Napster's Impact on Music and Culture

146

MTV: Music Videos, Reality TV, and Ridiculousness

147

Unpacking the Economics of Taylor Swift

148

Hip-Hop's 50 Greatest Moguls

149

The State of the Middle-Class Artist

150

What’s Next for Travis Scott?

151

Motown Records: The Hit Factory That Changed Music Forever

152

The Real Story Behind Hip-Hop's "Decline"

153

30 years of Bad Boy Entertainment (with Zack Greenburg)

154

Why Music Streaming Can’t Agree on a Payout Model (with Lucas Shaw)

155

Do Music Videos Still Matter? (with Tati Cirisano)

156

How Ice Spice Blew Up (with Denisha Kuhlor)

157

The Rise and Fall of Roc-A-Fella Records (with Zack O'Malley Greenburg)

158

The State of Music (with Will Page)

159

Artist Independence (with Steve Stoute)

160

How Brands Become Ideologies (with Marcus Collins)

161

Rerun: How KevOnStage is Building His Comedy Flywheel

162

The Rise of Interscope Records (with Zack Greenburg)

163

Rerun: Investing $200 Million In Music with Matt Pincus

164

The Business Behind Coachella (with Tati Cirisano)

165

Rerun: The Future Of Music Business With Economist Will Page

166

Picking The Most Valuable Music Catalog Portfolio (with Denisha Kuhlor)

167

The Short-Form Video Wars: TikTok vs Shorts vs Reels (with Tati Cirisano)

168

Africa’s Music and Startup Future (with Mr Eazi)

169

The Future of Music and Gaming (with Vickie Nauman)

170

The Rise of Burna Boy (with Denisha Kuhlor)

171

Where Web2 and Web3 Meet (with Cardin Campbell)

172

Investing in New Music Startups (with Bob Moczydlowsky)

173

Rihanna, Roc Nation, and the Super Bowl Halftime Show (with DJ Louie XIV)

174

Why It’s Not Too Late to Start on TikTok (with Sean “BrandMan” Taylor)

175

How Cash Money Records Pulled Off Hip-Hop’s Louisiana Purchase (with Zack O’Malley Greenburg)

176

Why Algorithms are Getting Smarter with Ari Herstand

177

How Diddy is Underestimated as a Businessman

178

NYU Keynote: Music, Streaming, and Second-Order Effects

179

Trapital Mailbag: A.I. in Music, Future of NFTs, Hip-Hop Globalization, and More!

180

Turnover at Motown, Berner's Billion-Dollar Weed Business, and Hip-Hop's Wealthiest of 2022

181

Why The Next 10 Years Of Rich Homie Quan’s Career Won’t Be Like The Last

182

Investing in Web3 Music with Coopahtroopa

183

What Spotify and YouTube’s Billions Playlists Tell Us About Streaming

184

How a16z’s Cultural Leadership Fund Is Putting More Black Dollars in Tech

185

The Culture Report, and DICE President on Making Music Ticketing Less Transactional

186

How HitPiece Rebounded and Relaunched After Controversy

187

How Curren$y Played The Long Game With His Career & Jet Life

188

Rap Capital: The Rise & Reign Of Atlanta’s Hip-Hop Empire

189

Mona Scott-Young’s Influence On Culture Goes Beyond Love & Hip Hop

190

Inside Hannibal Buress’ Pivot From Comedy To Rap

191

The Music Industry’s Oversaturation Problem

192

How Roy Wood Jr. Is Evolving His Comedy

193

TikTok Wants to Takeover. Will it Succeed?

194

Investing $200 Million In Music with Matt Pincus

195

How Virtual Characters Are Done Right

196

Inside the Business of Beatmaking

197

Post Malone’s Agent Breaks Down Strategy Behind His Success

198

Inside Benny Pough’s Career in Hip-Hop

199

How Does the Music Business Compare To Film And TV?

200

Why Talib Kweli is Focused on his Fans

201

What Every Artist and Creator Needs to Know Before Signing Contracts

202

Improving The Artist-Fan Relationship

203

Sherrese Clarke Soares Explains Why Content Is Queen

204

How Drake and Beyoncé Drop New Music

205

Broken Record: Missy Elliott

206

Stem CEO Milana Lewis Wants To Get Artists Paid

207

Bay Area Hip-Hop with Rexx Life Raj

208

Why the Golden State Warriors Launched a Record Label

209

The iPod’s Legacy in the Music Industry with Zack O’Malley Greenburg

210

Comedian Bigg Jah Charters His Own Path Into Entertainment Industry

211

How indify’s Co-Founder prettyboyshav Is Flipping The Economics Of The Record Business

212

Young M.A and the $20 NFT

213

How Fanbase Raised $6 Million Without VC with Isaac Hayes III

214

The Future Of Music Business With Economist Will Page

215

Audiomack CMO Dave Ponte’s Plan to Grow the Pie for Artists

216

The Broccoli City Music Festival

217

Why Podcast Ownership Matters with Brittany Luse and Eric Eddings of “For Colored Nerds”

218

How Kevin Liles Built 300 Entertainment Into A $400 Million Business In Under 10 Years

219

How Quality Control Music Invests in Startups

220

Frank Cooper III Brokered Beyonce-Pepsi’s $50 Million Deal. Here’s Where He Sees Industry Going Next

221

The Future Of Live Music with Kevin Shivers, Partner at WME

222

Bun B Believes The Metaverse Will Open Up Access Between Artists & Fans

223

How Tuma Basa is Bringing Black Music to the World with YouTube

224

How Junae Brown Became the ‘Beyoncé of Marketing’

225

BONUS: The New Creator Manifesto

226

How KevOnStage is Building His Comedy Flywheel

227

Troy Carter on the Future of Music Streaming

228

Ralph McDaniels on Video Music Box and Documenting Hip-Hop History

229

Master P on Bringing Culture to Corporate America (live from TMRE)

230

Issa Rae on Insecure, Ownership in Media, and Creator Economy Trends

231

Chris Taylor on MNRK's Rebrand, Managing Death Row Records Catalog, and Music's M&A Market

232

Charlie Kaplan on Audiomack Supporters, Artist-Fan Monetization, and Streaming Business Models

233

Tunde Balogun on Developing R&B Superstars, LVRN's Journey, and Mental Health in Music

234

Independent Artist Life with Flawless Real Talk (2020)

235

Steven Galanis on Cameo's Rise (2020)

236

Trapital Mailbag #5: Blockchain Opportunities in Music, Middle Class Musicians, Astroworld, Indie vs Major Record Labels, and more

237

Dave Mays on The Source's Legacy, Launching Breakbeat, and State of Hip-Hop Media

238

Sacha Jenkins on Rick James Life and Times, the Rise of Music Documentaries, and Hip Hop 50

239

Zack O'Malley Greenburg on How Music Leads Innovation, Forbes to Substack, and Hip-Hop's Next Billionaire

240

Mary Rahmani on TikTok Artist Strategies, Launching Moon Projects, and Influencer Partnerships

241

Mike Weissman on SoundCloud's Creator Strategy, Web 3.0, and Building a Music Entertainment Business

242

Steve Stoute on Artist Independence, UnitedMasters, Translation, and Facilitating Fan Access

243

Karl Fowlkes on Becoming an Entertainment Attorney, NBA Agent, and NIL Opportunities

244

DJ Semtex on Donda, Certified Lover Boy, Podcasting, and UK Hip-Hop

245

Rick Ross on Bossing Up, Building His Empire, WingStop, and his Investments

246

The OutKast Edge

247

A Campaign Breakdown on Tyler, The Creator’s “Call Me If You Get Lost” with Amber Horsburgh

248

24kGoldn on TikTok Success, Investments, and Record Label Deals

249

Mike G on Music Festivals, Touring, Young Thug, The Kid LAROI, and Chris Brown

250

Anthony Martini on Royalty Exchange, Music Royalties, NFTs, and Managing Lil Dicky and Tyga

251

Steve Rifkind on Loud Records, Spring Sound, Wu-Tang Clan, and the Family Business

252

Detavio Samuels on REVOLT, Digital and Cable Strategy, The Crew League, Black-owned Media, and Working with Diddy

253

Jamal Henderson on Space Jam, Structuring SpringHill, LeBron James, and the Creator Economy

254

Music Business Podcast: Trippie Redd's Manager Charlene Bryant on Hitting Billboard #1 and Launching Riveter Management

255

MixedByAli on EngineEars, TDE's Legacy, and Mixing for Kendrick Lamar and Dr. Dre

256

Call Me Ace on his Indie Rap Career, Building His Brand, and Still Working Full-Time

257

Benjy Grinberg on Rostrum Records, Wiz Khalifa and Mac Miller, and Mental Health

258

The Major Record Labels All Want Your Attention

259

Leron Rogers on Helping Artists Become Moguls, Entertainment Law, and Representing Rick Ross

260

Jonnyshipes on Cinematic Music Group, Indie Hip-Hop, and Building the Supreme for Music

261

Tarik Brooks, President of Combs Enterprises (2020)

262

Tracy Chan on Twitch Music, Helping Artists Monetize, and the Creator Economy

263

James Lindsay on Rap Snacks, BossUp Bank, Why Distribution Matters, and Managing Meek Mill

264

Trapital Mailbag! Hip-Hop’s Streaming Popularity, Rap Battle Leagues, Cancel Culture, Women Music Execs, and Record Labels

265

Brandon Pankey on Launching the APEX Video Network, Live Music’s Return, and Educating the Next Generation

266

Shawn Prez on Bad Boy, Black Rob, and PowerMoves Inc. (2020)

267

BrandMan Sean on Music Marketing, Common Mistakes Artists Make, and Working with 24KGoldn

268

The "Will and Jada" Playbook

269

Brian “Z” Zisook on DJBooth’s Run, Major Record Labels, Indie Artists, and Audiomack’s Partnerships

270

Dame Ritter on When “Ownership” Goes Too Far, Myths about Streaming and Touring, and Managing Comedians

271

Ibrahim "Ib" Hamad, Dreamville President (2020)

272

Micah Johnson on Selling $1M Worth of NFTs in 1 Minute, Transitioning from MLB to Fine Art, and Getting More Black Collectors Involved

273

Mick Batyske on How His DJ Career Led to Brand Deals, Angel Investing, and Startup Advising

274

Jay Z sells 50% of Ace of Spades, TikTok Artist’s Path to Success

275

Ted Lucas on Slip-N-Slide Records, Miami Hip-Hop, and R&B’s Comeback

276

J. Erving on Human Re-Sources, Sony Music's Acquisition, and How to Evaluate Talent

277

The Best Hip-Hop Album Rollouts of All-Time (with Ernest Wilkins)

278

Def Jam's Past, Present, and Future with Gary Suarez

279

Binta Brown on the State of the Music Industry, omalilly projects, and Black Music Action Coalition

280

Master P on Reebok, Ownership, Generational Wealth, and Lessons Learned from Reginald Lewis

281

Why Artists Are Selling Their Music Catalogs (with Karl Fowlkes)

282

Phylicia Fant on Developing Superstar Artists, Rising in the Music Industry, and Navigating 2020

283

Flawless Real Talk on Netflix’s Rhythm + Flow, Life as an Indie Artist, and Building His Fanbase

284

Daouda Leonard on CreateSafe, the Record Deal Simulator, and Empowering Artists to Manage Their Careers

285

Steven Galanis on Cameo’s Growing Marketplace and Closing the Gap Between Fame and Monetization

286

Dave Macli on Audiomack’s Role in Music Streaming, Partnership with DJBooth, and Global Expansion

287

Big Tech's Big Plans in the Music Industry with Cherie Hu

288

Alex "Al D" Damashek on a New Partnership With Twitch, Move Forward Music, and the Future of Live Music

289

Netflix's Black Content Strategy

290

The Best Hip-Hop Marketing Campaigns of All-Time with Marcus Collins

291

Jason Geter on Heavy Sound Labs, Launching Grand Hustle, Signing T.I. and Travis Scott, and Redefining the Modern Record Label

292

Donald Albright on Building a Podcast Network, Hip-Hop Marketing Tactics, and Tenderfoot TV’s Future

293

Hip-hop's Indie Economy

294

Tyler, The Creator's Cult-Like Following

295

Peter Bittenbender on Mass Appeal’s Rise, Holding Brand Partners Accountable, and International Expansion

296

Hip-Hop Challenger Brands with Ernest Wilkins

297

Roy Wood Jr. on How 2020 Changed Comedy, His Comedy Central Partnership, and Why Alabama Means So Much to Him

298

The Steve Jobs of Gap?

299

Hovain Hylton and Busy Rivera on Cinematic Music Group’s Rise, and Turning the Brand into a Lifestyle

300

Build Your Table

301

Hip-Hop's Role in the Fight for Justice

302

Trapital Mailbag #3: How Hip-Hop Makes Money in a Pandemic, Superproducers in the Streaming Era, What’s Next for Fortnite + Travis Scott, and more!

303

Tiffany Ballard on Music Business Law, Why Bad Deals Still Happen, How She Made Connections on Myspace, and Her Time on Reality TV

304

Zack O'Malley Greenburg (2019)

305

Ibrahim "Ib" Hamad on Building Dreamville, Managing J. Cole, the Dollar & a Dream Tour, and Starting the Dreamville Fest

306

Shawn Prez on the Bad Boy Street Team, Grassroots Marketing in Hip-Hop, and Starting the Global Spin Awards

307

Hannibal Buress on How Netflix Changed Comedy, His Investing Strategy, and Why Isola Fest is One of His Favorite Career Moments

308

Mike Weissman - President, SoundCloud (2019)

309

Akin Aliu - Music Touring Agent, CAA (2019)

310

James Supreme - A&R at Universal Music Publishing Group (2019)

311

Trapital Mailbag #2! D-Smoke’s Potential, Lovers & Friends Fest, Jay Z the Wartime Leader, The Cost of Album Bundles, and Def Jam…oh Def Jam

312

Lynzie Riebling on Gen Hip Hop, Quantifying the Power of the Hip-Hop Audience, and REVOLT’s Role in the Culture

313

Karl Fowlkes on Music Business Law, Combat Jack’s Influence, and Why He Hopes There are Less Lawyers in 20 Years

314

Jesse Kirshbaum on Nue Agency's Brand Marketing, #CRWN Interview Series, and the Future of Award Shows

315

Tarik Brooks on Combs Enterprises, Diddy’s Investment Strategy, and Managing a Portfolio of Brands

316

Steve Stoute on UnitedMasters, Partnership with Apple Music, Ownership in Hip-Hop, and Why Brands Value Indie Artists

317

Fantasy Record Labels? We’re Skeptical. (a Trapital - Water & Music Collaboration with Cherie Hu)

318

Milana Lewis on Stem’s Artist-First Strategy, How it Evolves in the Streaming Era, How the Company Makes Tough Decisions

319

Trapital Mailbag Special: Grammy Awards Woes, Young Rappers Most Likely to Become Moguls, and Thoughts on a Rappers Union

320

Why Netflix's 'Rhythm + Flow' Was a Hit

321

Mike Weissman on SoundCloud’s Creator Strategy, How it Compares to a Startup Accelerator, and What it Means to be a SoundCloud Rapper

322

Shea Serrano on the Economics of Book Publishing, ‘Movies (and Other Things),’ and How DJ Screw Inspired his Promotional Tactics

323

DJ Semtex on UK Hip-Hop’s Moment, Stormzy and Skepta Becoming Stars, Brexit’s Impact on the Culture, and Why Radio Still Matters

324

Akin Aliu on Life as a CAA Agent, Representing Ciara, and the “Rich Paul Rule”

325

James Supreme on Being the A&R Behind Lil’ Nas X “Panini”, G-Eazy's Management Team, and why Mental Health Matters in the Industry

326

Dame Ritter on Kanye West’s Sunday Services, Launching Music Entrepreneur Club, and How He Almost Signed Russ to a Deal

327

Zack O’Malley Greenburg on the Forbes Hip-Hop Cash List, the Controversy it Causes, and What it Took to Declare that Jay Z is a Billionaire

328

50 Cent is a Habitual Line Stepper

329

Moody Jones on marketing for Snoop Dogg, EMPIRE’s digital strategy, and why he wants to work with Childish Gambino

330

RapCaviar's Big Advantage

331

Roc Nation's Wild Year

332

The Hip-Hop Partnership Flywheel

333

No Tour, No Problem for Cardi B

334

Mathew Knowles on Beyoncé's Streaming Strategy, Solange's Marketing, and Dinner with Jay Z or $50,000