Related, the Podcast

In this insightful episode of Related with Katelyn and Kelsey, the show explores the profound intersections of mental health, self-discovery, and friendships through the Enneagram framework. Joined by Christina, an author and mental health advocate, the conversation delves into her journey with Enneagram type 6, the importance of understanding core fears, and advocating for mental health within faith communities. The episode highlights the challenges of obtaining accurate diagnoses and stresses the crucial role of supportive friendships, especially during the pandemic. It provides practical advice for fostering meaningful connections across different Enneagram types, from the responsibilities felt by Type Ones to the emotional validation needed by Type Fours, and beyond. Listeners will gain valuable insights into enhancing personal growth and emotional well-being through understanding and supporting diverse Enneagram types in friendships. (01:19) Christina's Enneagram Journey (07:39) Mental Health Advocacy and Personal Journey (14:09) Enneagram and Friendship (29:43) Understanding the Needs of Type Fours (32:26) Supporting Self-Pampering for Type Fives (36:00) Empowering Confidence in Type Sixes (40:07) Seeing Beyond Avoidance in Type Sevens (44:58) Staying Curious About Anger in Type Eights (48:49) Giving Space for Type Nines to Express Themselves (53:58) Exploring the Six Pillars of Friendship

In this episode, the Katelyn and Kelsey discuss the common themes of navigating personal responsibility and boundaries within various kinds of relationships, from friendships and parental dynamics to romantic relationships and marriages. They explore the internalization of conflicts, how to discern which issues are yours versus those of others, and the importance of setting healthy boundaries. The episode aims to help listeners recognize and reflect on their tendencies, providing insights into achieving healthier interactions and relationships. The discussion is complemented by relatable examples and touches upon how social media and popular culture, like reality TV, illustrate these dynamics.   (00:00) Drink Preferences (00:32) Personal Habits and Pet Peeves (01:42) Main Topic: Relationships and Boundaries (02:47) Conflict Resolution Strategies (03:10) People Pleasing and Internalizing Issues (05:44) Blaming and Projecting in Relationships (06:35) Healthy Boundaries and Communication (08:32) Parental Influence on Adult Behavior (14:38) Friendship Dynamics and Insecurities (22:59) Romantic Relationships and Accountability (29:33) Practical Takeaways and Self-Reflection (32:35) Pop Culture Segment: Real Housewives (36:24) Final Thoughts

In this episode, Katelyn and Kelsey welcome Ruthie Kim, an executive leadership coach and transformational speaker, known for empowering women and girls. Ruthie shares her British background and her life in San Francisco with her Korean American husband and two sons. The conversation dives into Ruthie's passion for transformation, her experiences with courage, and her new podcast 'The Future Is Golden,' which explores the theme of courage. Ruthie also opens up about her struggles with anxiety and the balance between strength and vulnerability. As an Enneagram 8, she discusses the misconceptions and unique challenges faced by female leaders in various settings, particularly in the church. Ruthie emphasizes the importance of inviting courage into one's life, the power of community in exploring personal themes, and offers valuable advice for women to embrace their strengths and impact the world. (00:00) Introduction and Ruthie Kim’s Background (02:05) Exploring the Theme of Courage (06:23) Navigating Fear and Anxiety (16:29) Empowering Women Through Courage (19:46) Embracing Passion and Leadership (20:35) Debunking Myths About Female Enneagram Eights (21:25) Challenges and Opportunities in Church Leadership (22:17) Strengths and Vulnerabilities of Enneagram Eights (27:32) Learning to Be Invitational (30:41) Misconceptions and Realities of Female Leaders (33:13) Encouragement for Female Enneagram Eights (35:29) How to Connect with Ruthie

Lauren Paz's Journey: Navigating Pregnancy Loss and Emotional Healing In this episode of Related the Podcast, Kelsey and her friend Lauren Paz discuss the emotional challenges of dealing with pregnancy loss. Lauren shares her journey growing up, working as an ER and ICU nurse, and facing multiple miscarriages. She talks about confronting emotions, the tools that helped her heal, and her initiatives 'A Soulful Sorrow' and 'All Seasons Soul Care' to support women through grief. They also explore practical strategies for handling negative emotions, particularly for Enneagram type 7s. (00:00) Introduction and Content Warning (00:19) Meet Lauren Paz: A Journey Through Grief (01:42) Lauren's Background and Career (02:33) Discovering the Enneagram (05:05) Facing Emotional Pain (06:48) Personal Health Challenges (08:54) Entering the Nursing Profession (14:06) Starting a Family: Hopes and Heartbreaks (17:41) Coping with Loss and Finding Healing (20:06) Understanding the Feeling of Being Trapped (20:31) Tools for Managing Grief and Pain (21:41) The Science Behind Emotions (23:37) Grounding Techniques and Support Systems (24:39) Transforming Pain into Growth (28:37) Creating Resources for Miscarriage and Loss (31:10) Engaging the Body in Healing (34:54) Practical Tips for Sevens (38:05) Final Thoughts and Encouragement

In this episode, the hosts discuss their favorite Olympic events and delve into personal experiences with anxiety. The conversation covers how anxiety has manifested and evolved over the years, the importance of therapy, and various tools for managing anxiety, including medication, physical activity, and cognitive techniques. They also highlight the mental health journeys of prominent athletes like Simone Biles and Caleb Dressel. The hosts provide insights and advice for supporting someone with anxiety and emphasize the significance of a holistic approach to mental health.   (00:00) Introduction and Current Obsessions (00:22) Olympics Highlights and Equestrian Sports (03:06) Gymnastics and Beach Volleyball Favorites (05:05) Kelsey's Journey with Anxiety (05:55) Childhood Anxiety and Therapy (07:31) High School, College, and the Enneagram (10:00) Therapy and Understanding Anxiety (16:29) Tools and Strategies for Managing Anxiety (20:45) The Importance of Tools and Medication (22:30) Supporting Someone with Anxiety (25:59) Physical Symptoms of Anxiety (31:23) Mental Health in Athletes (32:06) Simone Biles' Journey (36:42) Caleb Dressel's Experience (39:45) Integrating Mental, Physical, and Spiritual Health (40:40) Conclusion and Resources

In this episode, Justin McRoberts shares insights into his latest book, 'Sacred Strides', discussing the convergence of work and rest in the post-COVID era. He provides a deep dive into his creative process, influenced by living with ADHD, and highlights the importance of integrating work and self-care. Justin also delves into the Enneagram, specifically examining the nuances of being a Type 4, and offers advice on navigating envy and maintaining creativity. His candid reflections reveal the complexities of balancing professional aspirations and personal growth, emphasizing the ongoing practice of self-awareness and community support. You can find Justin at justinmcroberts.com For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠⁠⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠⁠⁠. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠.⁠ (00:00) Introduction and Guest Welcome (00:45) ADHD and Writing Process (02:27) Post-COVID Reflections on Work and Rest (04:06) Balancing Hustle and Self-Care (04:47) Generational Perspectives on Work and Rest (05:31) The Desire for Wholeness (10:07) Consequences of Imbalance (12:45) Intentional Rest Practices (18:34) The Meaning of Work (21:18) Enneagram Type Discussion (24:07) The Creative Journey of a Four (24:42) Discovering the Enneagram (26:42) A Defining High School Moment (30:09) Understanding Envy (36:07) Advice for Creatives (41:45) Final Thoughts and Where to Find Justin

In part II, Kelsey delves into Katelyn's Enneagram type and how it relates to her behavior and motivations. They explore the connection between her type 5 and type 8, as well as the importance of understanding one's core motivations. They also discuss the benefits of knowing one's Enneagram type, such as being able to address underlying needs and improve relationships. The conversation highlights the power of the Enneagram in providing a roadmap for personal growth and self-awareness. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠⁠. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠⁠⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠. Chapters (00:00) Exploring Type 5 and Type 8 (03:04) Understanding Motivations and Core Behaviors (09:01) The Benefits of Knowing Your Enneagram Type (13:01) Navigating Mistyping and Finding Your True Type (18:00) Journey of Self-Discovery

In this episode, the host shares insights on the complexities of discovering one's Enneagram type, emphasizing that it is a journey that can take years. The discussion centers on Katelyn's personal experience with identifying her type, oscillating between Type 5 and Type 1 traits. Kelsey and Katelyn explore various aspects such as motivations, fears, stress responses, and health states to pinpoint her true type. The episode underscores the importance of understanding core motivations and the nuanced differences between closely related Enneagram types. Listeners gain a deeper understanding of how Enneagram typing can be a layered and sometimes confusing process, requiring thorough self-examination and professional guidance. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠⁠⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠⁠⁠. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠. (00:00) Introduction to the Enneagram Journey (00:34) Challenges in Identifying Your Type (00:58) Katelyn's Enneagram Exploration (02:35) Initial Enneagram Test Results (03:20) Deciphering Between Types (03:38) Relating to Type Five (05:57) Relating to Type One (07:26) Subtypes and Their Impact (09:35) Stress Responses and Behavioral Patterns (19:04) Core Weaknesses and Motivations (21:32) Reflecting on Personal Growth (27:29) Final Thoughts and Next Steps

The conversation explores the concept of loyalty and its potential for toxicity in various relationships, such as friendships, marriages, and work environments. It highlights the importance of trust, support, and commitment in healthy loyalty, while also acknowledging the need to recognize and address red flags in relationships. The discussion delves into the complexities of loyalty in different contexts, including the challenges of blind loyalty and the potential for abuse. It emphasizes the importance of seeking help and guidance to navigate the nuances of loyalty in personal and professional relationships. Blind loyalty can be detrimental in various aspects of life, such as work, organized religion, and family. It often leads to burnout and can perpetuate toxic behaviors. Loyalty should work both ways and be based on love and trust. It's important to question the purpose and impact of our loyalty and seek support if needed. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠⁠⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠⁠⁠. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠. (00:00) Salsa (03:06) Exploring Loyalty and Its Potential for Toxicity (06:08) Healthy Loyalty in Friendships (08:17) Navigating Loyalty in Marriages (10:19) Recognizing Unhealthy Loyalty in Relationships (13:04) When Loyalty Becomes Toxic: Work Environments (20:06) Personal Experiences with Loyalty in Work Settings (23:16) The Dangers of Blind Loyalty (25:26) The Impact of Loyalty in Helping Professions (27:50) The Impact of Loyalty in Workplaces and Organizations (29:24) The Complexity of Family Loyalty (34:05) Loyalty Expression by Enneagram Type (38:58) Help for People Pleasers (41:15) Blind Loyalty in New Jersey Housewives (43:53) Seeking Support and Setting Boundaries

In this conversation, Katelyn and Kelsey discuss the topic of friendship and explore the concept of red flags and green flags. They highlight the importance of mutual effort, being able to be oneself, and having similar values in a healthy friendship. They also discuss the significance of being a good listener, respecting boundaries, and avoiding gossip. The conversation concludes with a brief overview on specific red flags for each Enneagram type. In pop culture, they discuss the dynamics of friendships on reality TV shows The Valley and Real Housewives of New Jersey. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠⁠⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠⁠⁠. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠. Chapters (00:00) Cherry Tree (03:42) Green Flags in Friendships (10:00) Red Flags in Friendships (12:47) Red Flags for Each Enneagram Type (13:06) The Difference Between Sharing and Gossiping (16:36) Respecting Boundaries (19:17) Understanding Green Flags for Different Enneagram Types (26:02) Exploring Friendships in The Valley and Real Housewives of New Jersey

In this episode of 'Related, the Podcast,' Katelyn and Brock discuss effective communication tips inspired by David Burns' work "Feeling Good Together." They do a step by step breakdown of his five secrets to effective communication. They explore listening skills, empathy, and self-expression techniques to improve relationships during conflict especially. Personal examples and practical insights offer listeners valuable tools to navigate conflicts and foster better mutual understanding. They also touch on recognizing red flags and maintaining genuine empathy in conversations. For more information on David Burns, please visit his website below: https://feelinggood.com/tag/feeling-good-together/ To purchase "The Rabbit Listened," go to: https://www.amazon.com/Rabbit-Listened-Cori-Doerrfeld/dp/073522935X For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠⁠. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠⁠⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠. (00:00) Intro (02:23) David Burns: Five Secrets of Effective Communication (04:44) Disarming Technique (08:34) Empathy in Communication (21:39) Self-Expression Skills (26:31) Breaking Down Emotions (30:01) Stroking and Conclusion (38:27) Final Thoughts and Pop Culture References

In this conversation, Katelyn Galvin and Yodit Kifle-Smith discuss the transition into motherhood and the challenges and changes that come with it. They also talk about the power of storytelling and the importance of sharing experiences and supporting other mothers. Kifle-Smith shares her work with Say It Forward, a platform that allows women and girls to share their stories, and the impact it has had on her own understanding of the power of stories. They also discuss the concept of matrescence, the transition into motherhood, and the need to embrace the changes and give oneself grace during this phase of life. Matrescenceis a term that helps put language to the major changes and challenges that women go through during pregnancy and motherhood. It is a huge learning curve on every level, and the stakes are high. It is important to give this phase the respect it deserves and to understand that it is a process. The external factors, such as support from family and friends, can greatly influence the experience of the first year of motherhood. Being away from family and raising a child in a different cultural context can present its own challenges, but finding contentment in the journey and trusting in God's plan can help navigate through them. Surrendering control and trusting in God's love and care for our children is essential in parenting. It is important to model humility, reflect on our own actions and beliefs, and seek support and community during this phase of life. Yodit is the co-host of the The Power of Stories Podcast with sayitforward.org. Connect with Yodit on instagram @Yodit "The developmental transition to motherhood explores matrescence," a term coined in 1973 by Dana Raphael, a medical anthropologist who also popularized the phrase, "doula." For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠. (00:00) The Transition into Motherhood (01:51) Motherhood and Work: Balancing Responsibilities (08:45) The Power of Storytelling and Community Support (24:25) Embracing Matrescence: The Transformative Journey of Motherhood (29:49) Cultural Influences on Motherhood: Navigating Parenting Dynamics (36:51) Faith and Motherhood: Surrendering Control and Finding Contentment (46:48) Community Support and Resources: Essential Tools for Mothers

In this conversation, Katelyn and Kelsey discuss the concept of self-regulation and provide strategies for regulating oneself in different situations. They emphasize the importance of understanding one's own window of tolerance and using various tools to bring oneself back to a calm and grounded state. They also discuss how self-regulation can be different for each Enneagram type and provide specific strategies for each type. The conversation highlights the significance of self-regulation in maintaining healthy relationships and overall well-being. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠. Chapters (01:22) Introduction to Self-Regulation (06:26) Tools for Self-Regulation (12:16) Specific Self-Regulation Strategies for Each Enneagram Type (23:55) Self-Regulation for Sevens (27:35) Self-Regulation for Nines

In this conversation, Kelsey and Katelyn discuss their personal experiences with anxiety in motherhood. They talk about the challenges of solo parenting while being sick, as well as the sweet and special moments with their children. They go deep into the topic, distinguishing between normal fears and concerns and when it becomes a mental health issue. They also discuss intrusive thoughts and how to manage them. They explore the factors that contribute to anxiety in motherhood, including sleep deprivation, social media, and the pressure to be a perfect parent. They emphasize the importance of listening to one's instincts and prioritizing self-care. They also discuss the role of medication and therapy in managing postpartum mental health issues. The conversation highlights the need for community and support in motherhood and encourages mothers to prioritize their own well-being. Postpartum Resources: https://www.postpartum.net/ https://www.drcassidymft.com/ https://www.momwell.com/ https://thenestfamilytherapy.com/ To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠.

In this conversation, Kelsey and her husband, Jared, discuss how the Enneagram has helped them navigate their marriage. They talk about how understanding each other's Enneagram types has improved their communication and empathy towards one another. They also discuss how the Enneagram has helped them deal with anxiety and grief, and how it has contributed to their individual growth. They emphasize the importance of self-care and understanding one's own needs in a relationship. They also mention how the Enneagram can be applied in pop culture, specifically in the TV show Survivor.

In this conversation, Katelyn and her husband Brock discuss how mental health affects marriage and how therapy has transformed their relationship. They share their journey from meeting in college to getting married and facing a breaking point in their marriage. They emphasize the importance of pre-marital counseling and the need for more thorough and realistic guidance. They also discuss the individual growth they experienced through therapy, including self-awareness, understanding issues, and learning healthy coping strategies. They highlight the significance of empathy, compassion, and self-compassion in their marriage. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the importance of mental health support and resources. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠. (00:00) The Journey: From Meeting to Marriage (05:04) Individual Growth through Therapy (11:29) Learning and Understanding (13:54) The Impact of Therapy on Marriage (16:28) How to Cope Better (25:39) Experiencing the Growth (32:11) The Power of Group Therapy (33:34) Best Marriage Check-Ins (35:58) Impact of MEPS (39:48) Learning Compromise (44:36) Pop Culture: Real Housewives of Potomac (52:27) Therapy Saving Our Marriage

In this episode, Kelsey and Katelyn discuss the dutiful stance, which includes types one, two, and six. They explain that these types seek to get their needs met by serving others and being loyal. They also discuss the struggles and benefits of this stance, such as people-pleasing and overextending. The hosts emphasize the importance of identifying and communicating one's own needs, setting boundaries, and exploring the underlying motivations behind dutiful behavior. They also mention the significance of self-reflection and seeking therapy or coaching to support personal growth. Takeaways The dutiful stance includes types one, two, and six, who seek to get their needs met by serving others and being loyal. Struggles of this stance include people-pleasing, overextending, and a tendency to neglect one's own needs. Tips for this stance include identifying and communicating one's own needs, setting boundaries, exploring underlying motivations, and seeking therapy or coaching for support. The hosts highlight the importance of self-reflection and self-awareness in order to foster personal growth and balance in relationships. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠. Chapters (00:00) Introduction to the dutiful stance (01:36) Characteristics of the dutiful stance (04:27) Type One: The Perfectionist (06:49) Type Two: The Helper (12:13) Type Six: The Loyalist (16:29) Benefits of the dutiful stance (29:23) Tips and takeaways (42:12) Pop culture reference: Vanderpump Rules (43:54) Closing remarks

In this conversation, Katelyn and Kelsey discuss the assertive or aggressive stance in the Enneagram and those who tend to face confrontation head on. They highlight the characteristics of these types, such as being high-energy, optimistic, and willing to confront issues. The benefits of this stance include getting things done and being achievers. However, when these types are in overdrive, they can become impulsive, react to stress by asserting dominance, and struggle with controlling things. They also tend to avoid processing difficult emotions and may have a fear of vulnerability. The conversation emphasizes the importance of finding balance and recognizing that worth and identity are not solely based on achievements or happiness. In this conversation, the sisters discuss the Enneagram types 3, 7, and 8. They explore the characteristics, motivations, and behaviors of these types, as well as their impact on relationships. Katelyn shares the importance of self-regulation and understanding the underlying reasons for reactive behaviors. They provide practical tips for growth and offer examples from Bravo reality shows ("Real Housewives of New Jersey/ Potomac" and "Married to Medicine") to illustrate these types. Takeaways It is important to find balance and recognize that worth and identity are not solely based on achievements or happiness. The Enneagram types 3, 7, and 8 have distinct characteristics and motivations. Self-regulation is crucial for these types to avoid reactive and aggressive behaviors. Understanding the underlying reasons for reactive behaviors can help individuals make healthier choices. Practical tips for growth include pausing before reacting, finding healthy outlets for energy (often high exertion physical exercise), and practicing mindfulness, pilates or yoga. Examples from pop culture, such as Teresa Guidice from "Real Housewives of New Jersey" and Dr. Jackie from "Married to Medicine," illustrate both unhealthy and healthy expressions of these types. To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠. Chapters (00:00) Introduction to the Assertive/Aggressive Stance (02:05) Characteristics of the Assertive/Aggressive Stance (06:44) Difficulty Processing Emotions (09:07) The Importance of Letting Go of Control (11:32) Parenting and Emotional Regulation (13:03) Reframing Negative Situations (16:16) The Identity Struggle of Threes (22:01) The Importance of Commitment for Sevens (24:28) Processing Difficult Emotions for Sevens (29:40) The Importance of Body Language (30:35) Understanding the Motivations Behind the Eight Type (31:34) Balancing Assertiveness and Consideration (32:34) The Impact of Aggressive Behavior on Relationships (33:32) Growth Tips for Types Three, Seven, and Eight (34:49) Practical Tips for Regulation and Self-Awareness (37:12) Recognizing the Positive Aspects of Types Three, Seven, and Eight (40:02) Examples of Unhealthy Behavior in Pop Culture: BRAVO (42:21) Positive Examples in Pop Culture: Dr. Jackie and Gertie (48:07) Finding Balance and Seeking Therapy or Coaching (49:58) Embracing the Gift of Assertiveness

In this conversation, Kelsey and Katelyn discuss the withdrawing stance in the Enneagram, focusing on types 4, 5, and 9. They pose the question - does avoiding conflict really lead to peace? Also, how can ice cubes help? They explain that these types withdraw in order to meet their needs or cope with conflict. However, withdrawing does not always bring peace or fulfill their needs. It is important for these types to communicate their needs and seek connection with others. They emphasize the importance of communication, expressing emotions, and setting boundaries. They also discuss the example of Kenneth from the show "Love is Blind," who exhibited a common withdrawing behavior. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for self-awareness and intentional effort in addressing conflict and finding peace. Takeaways The withdrawing stance in the Enneagram includes types 4, 5, and 9. Withdrawal can be a way for these types to find comfort and safety, but it is important to communicate and set expectations with others. Expressing emotions and communicating what is happening in the moment can help navigate conflict and avoid misunderstandings. Finding healthy ways to withdraw, such as taking time alone or engaging in physical activities, can be beneficial for these types. Reset the nervous system! Chapters (00:00) Introduction: Withdrawing and Avoiding During Conflict (01:57) The Withdrawing Stance: Fours, Fives, and Nines (04:45) The Impact of Withdrawing on Relationships (05:42) Ruminating on the Past (06:59) The Origins of Withdrawing as a Coping Mechanism (07:47 )Triggers and Instincts in Withdrawing (08:43) The Fight, Flight, Freeze, and Fawn Responses (10:14) Attachment Styles and Withdrawing (12:16) The Withdrawing Stance: Fours (13:42) Tips for Fours in Overcoming Withdrawing (15:12) The Withdrawing Stance: Fives (16:36) Tips for Fives in Overcoming Withdrawing (19:38) The Facade of Inner Peace in Nines (20:30) The Need for Trust in Nines (21:40) The Illusion of Peace in Nines (22:44) Questioning the Effectiveness of Withdrawing (24:06) Does Withdrawing Lead to Peace? (26:30) The Impact of Withdrawing and Avoidance (27:36) The Connection Between Avoidance and Anxiety (28:48) Building Trustworthy Relationships (29:48) Determining the Worth of a Relationship (30:38) Setting Boundaries and Communicating Needs (32:38) Examples of Withdrawal in Different Types of Relationships (33:45) Regulation Techniques for Dealing with Withdrawal (36:47) Self-Talk and External Processing (38:56) Staying Present and Communicating in Conflict (42:46) Examples of Withdrawal in Pop Culture (45:29) Lessons from Love is Blind (48:07) Conclusion and Final Tips To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠.

(00:00) Introduction: Importance of Expectations in Friendships (01:23) The Analogy of Watching the Same Movie (03:16) Fear of Addressing Expectations (04:43) Challenges in Different Seasons of Life (05:11) Balancing Friendships as a New Mom (06:08) Balancing Friendships as a Type Five (08:40) Avoidance of Conflict in Friendships (09:48) Unspoken Expectations and Miscommunication (11:08) Clarity Fuels Kindness and Connection (12:39) Navigating Friendships as Different Enneagram Types (14:13) Friendships Fizzling Out (18:52) Knowing the Worth of Friendships (20:03) Navigating Friendship Expectations in Different Seasons of Life (21:33) Internalizing Thoughts and Feelings about Friendship (26:46) The Impact of Life Transitions on Friendships (28:00) The Influence of Past Experiences on Friendships (30:11) Growing and Cultivating Healthy Friendships (33:37) Taking Risks and Communicating Expectations (35:20) The Importance of Boundaries in Friendships (38:00) Real Housewives and Friendship Dynamics (43:45) The Impact of Personal Challenges on Friendships (48:29) Navigating Friendships During Difficult Times (51:23) Balancing Support and Self-Care in Friendships To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠.

In our inaugeral episode, Kelsey gives a brief overview on each of the nine Enneagram types. Katelyn shares potential mental health issues each type may be prone to. (00:00) Overview of the Enneagram (02:22) Growth and Stress Points (03:54) Core Motivations (05:40) Wings and Stress Paths (08:43) Personal Types (09:43) Exploring the Nine Types (10:21) Disclaimer (10:49) Type One: The Moral Perfectionist (14:41) Type Two: The Supportive Advisor (18:29) Type Three: The Successful Achiever (21:40) Type Four: The Romantic (25:16) Type Five: The Investigative Thinker (28:57) Type Six: The Loyal Guardian (33:27) Type Seven: The Entertainer (37:22) Type Eight: The Protective Challenger (42:00) Type Nine: The Peaceful Mediator To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com. For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to https://www.Freeandwellcc.com. For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc. For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/.