Healthcare Unprofessionals
by Michelle Carroll and Chloe Stevens
What do you get when you combine a women's health physio and a PhD researcher? A podcast.Join Michelle and Chloe as we discuss all things women's health, nutrition, body image and everything in between... no hormone hacking required!Follow us on Instagram:@michellecarroll1@chloestevensphysio
Episodes
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Mini Course Monday Announcement!
As you may have gathered, Michelle and I are pretty fed up with the amount of misinformation and grifting online but particularly when it comes to PMOS. Apparently, there is now an abundance of “PCOS coaches”. We’re not entirely sure where these qualifications have come from because, to our...
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Social Determinants of Health & More Chit Chats
This week, we discuss the social determinants of health and how tone-deaf the industry can be to them, study design and the challenge with recruitment and our normal chit-chat! Enjoy!
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Intuitive Eating in Autistic Populations, Heatwaves & Online Debates
We have research papers, rants and plenty more this week! FOLLOW US ON IG @chloelewisphysio @michellecarroll1
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The Internet Is Unwell: Cellulite Myths, Lazy Coaching & The Trad Wife Contradiction
This week on The Healthcare Unprofessionals, we abandon all plans and dive headfirst into the wildest corners of the internet. From claims that you need to "get your leanest" to reduce cellulite, to coaches proudly declaring they only work with "highly motivated" clients, to the irony of...
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The Embodiment Illusion
This week Michelle shares insights from a PhD viva she recently attended exploring body image in college athletes. One concept that sparked our interest was embodiment—the idea of feeling connected to, trusting, and experiencing your body rather than simply viewing it as something to be…
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Why Exercise Isn't Medicine
This week we dive into a statement that sparked a surprisingly big discussion: "Exercise is medicine." Inspired by a paper Michelle came across, we explore whether this popular phrase is actually helpful or whether it oversimplifies something far more complex. We discuss why exercise can improve...
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Babies, Bladder Leaks in Sport & Mindful Dieting
We're back! This week on the pod we're talking about the research looking at women in sport and leaking, why people feel the need to ask when women are having children, and if it's ever possible to mindfully diet. PARTICIPATE IN CHLOE'S STUDIES Study information FOLLOW US ON IG @chloelewisphysio...
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PMOS, Paid Features & the Women’s Health Industry
From the PCOS to PMOS name change to the reality of who coaching actually serves, this episode dives into the growing gap between online wellness culture and frontline healthcare. We talk about access, privilege, the demographics often excluded from the ‘optimised health’ conversation, being…
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Rethinking Prolapse, Rehab and Return to Lifting with Marianna from MPowered Fitness
Marianna’s story is one so many women will recognise. After developing pelvic organ prolapse following the birth of her son in 2017, she found herself navigating not just symptoms, but fear, conflicting advice, and a lack of support to return to lifting and running. That experience led her to...
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Is the gym a space for all women?
This week, we explore whether women feel comfortable in fitness spaces and how this can be a barrier to their participation. The literature seems to support the narrative that gyms are gendered and intimidating for many women, especially those in midlife. Thin and fit privilege in the gym...
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Joe Wicks, Call Out Culture & Unethical AI Use in Coaching
We're fed up this week - with lots of things. From calling out other coaches, running a marathon with no water (?!) and bragging about using AI in your coaching... we have a lot to say. MENOPAUSE MASTERCLASS TICKETS WORK WITH MICHELLE: Coaching Disordered Eating...
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Men in Women's Health Research & Specialist Coaches
We chat about what's been getting on our nerves this week and add some nuance to the discussion around that study rating the attractiveness of women with endo and whether you should trust a "specialist" coach. MENOPAUSE MASTERCLASS TICKETS WORK WITH MICHELLE: Coaching...
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Menopause, Transformation Photos & Is Strong The New Skinny?
This week we chat about the latest grifters in the menopause space... does menopause really affect energy balance? Is strong the new skinny? And can you ever post transformation photos and support health? MENOPAUSE MASTERCLASS TICKETS WORK WITH MICHELLE: Coaching Disordered...
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Menopause Webinar Announcement
This week on the podcast, Chloe and Michelle are back with a proper mix of real talk, evidence, and a few necessary rants. We’re also announcing something we’re very excited about… Menopause Webinar🗓️ 11th May⏰ 7pm We’ll be diving into:- Body image during the menopause transition- Relationship...
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International Women's Day Washing
This week on the podcast, Chloe and Michelle are back with their usual unfiltered chat and yes, there’s a rant. With International Women’s Day everywhere this week, we found ourselves talking about the irony of being asked to speak about women’s empowerment… for free. The emails always sound...
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ANTM, Injury & Returning to Exercise After Birth Trauma
We reveal our thoughts on the ANTM documentary, chat about Chloe's presentation to women returning to exercise after birth trauma and ultimately what we're so excited to chat about at our Fitness Unprofessionals LIVE event in Manchester on March 7th! TICKETS FOR OUR FITNESS UNPROFESSIONALS EVENT…
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Disordered Eating in Fitness Research Review
Disordered eating is appears to be an "open secret" amongst fitness professionals - but what does the evidence actually say? Michelle & Chloe unpacked Michelle's 2025 systematic review and get into all the juicy details! - Join the Body Image & Nutrition Review DISORDERED EATING INFORMED:...
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Diet Culture, Sharing Struggles & Barriers to Women Liking their Bodies (with Christina Hathaway)
Women are conditioned to be constantly dieting and unhappy in their bodies... but it isn't that simple. Today, Michelle say down with Christina Hathaway (licensed therapist and personal trainer) to chat about diet culture, her journey in healing her relationship with food and what women need to…
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GLP-1s and Cycle Syncing for the 1206th time!
This week, Michelle and Chloe discuss the general chaos that unfolds on the internet every week. From the tide of coaches not understanding GLP-1s and their importance to Love Island stars using their coaching platforms to talk about cycle syncing, which, even in 2026, continues not to be...
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Fitness Unprofessionals Live Chaos
In this episode of Healthcare Unprofessionals, we talk about Fitness Unprofessionals Live in Manchester on 7th March, where International Women’s Day will be marked with a symposium on some of the most pressing topics in fitness right now. We cover conversations around menopause, GLP-1…
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Unpacking Chloe's MSc Research on Pelvic Organ Prolapse and Exercise
In this episode of Healthcare Unprofessionals, Chloe and Michelle talk about the research behind Chloe's MSc narrative review, Exercise as a Therapeutic Intervention for Pelvic Organ Prolapse, and how it became the foundation for her PhD. They unpack what the evidence actually says about exercise...
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Weddings, Feeling Fat as Motivation & Remote Menopause Clinics
We are back after taking some much needed time off (well, not Chloe, she used Christmas to get married!). We chat all things Chloe's wedding, our new social media plans and what we have seen this week in women's health and body image. Plus, we chat about our very exciting event in Manchester in...
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Healthcare Unprofessionals Holiday Survival Guide
Should you diet before Christmas? Is it really damage to enjoy yourself? Why is the "evidence-based" community selective with who they call out? The last episode of 2025 is a banger... Thank you for listening this last year, and we hope you have a great Christmas and New Year - please share & tag...
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Closer to 40 than 30!
In this week’s episode, Chloe and Michelle get a bit existential about how quickly time goes ! One minute you’re 22 and clueless, the next you’re edging closer to 40 and realising age is an absolute privilege. We also dove into: ✨ Learning to interpret data: especially thematic analysis, and how...
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Academic Boners: Research, Mansplaining & Why a PhD Doesn’t Make You God
In this episode, Michelle and I get into why research matters, how to get into it, and why good evidence gives us a full academic boner. We also unpack one of our favourite moments: the man on Instagram who confidently told Michelle she “hadn’t read the study”… the study she literally wrote. And…
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PhDs, Prolapse & Pelvic Health in Sport
We're back, still complaining about PhDs and menopause... nothing new! Thank you for listening - please share & tag us on your stories if you enjoyed! - @michellecarroll1 @chloestevensphysio
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Body Image, Behaviour Change & Binning Off Body Neutrality (with Sarah Tierney)
Body image and behaviour change are two of the essential pillars to incorporate into your coaching service - and yet so many people don't do it. Michelle sat down with Sarah Tierney (CEO of Hard House Nutrition) to chat about: - Why behaviour change matters and what coaches get wrong - Will you...
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You Don't Just Need A "Coach" (with Gavin McKinney)
Gavin is an online coach, who has transformed from focusing on fat loss to focusing on strength.. and his clients are thriving. Known for his hilarious and relatable takes on the fitness industry (a compliment Michelle doesn't throw around lightly), we get into a discussion that could have gone…
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Menopause, Fitness Trackers & Why Neurodivergence Isn't A Sales Tactic
Chloe's started her PhD and Michelle is living The Simple Life in the Scottish countryside. We chat all things menopause, fitness trackers and neurodivergence & food relationships. Thank you for listening - please share & tag us on your stories if you enjoyed! - @michellecarroll1...
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Why Your Evidence-Based Posts Don’t Go Viral (and What to Do About It)
This week on Healthcare Unprofessionals, Chloe is joined by Dr Emily Pfender, a health communication scientist and postdoctoral researcher at the University of Pennsylvania — and a spin and Pilates instructor on the side. Emily’s research dives into how social media shapes health behaviours,...
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Transformation Photos, Binge Eating Diets & Your Body In Business
Today, join Michelle in a solo episode/rant about some of the main challenges in ethical fitness coaching... let's chat about why your body isn't your business card, why transformation photos aren't motivating and why you can't diet your way out of binge eating. Don't forget to rate the podcast…
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Moanifesto 101: Healthcare Edition
Michelle and Chloe sit down for a real and honest chat about life in healthcare right now. Michelle has returned to work as a radiographer, Chloe is working as a physiotherapist — and as students trying to balance studies with running online businesses, both are finding it tough. They also touch…
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Comparison is the thief of body image
Join Michelle for a solo episode this week as we discuss all things comparison - why we do it, how it holds us back and how to stop ourselves! - Thank you for listening - please share & tag us on your stories if you enjoyed! - @michellecarroll1 @chloestevensphysio
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Threads, GLP-1s & the Case of the Massive Cooter
On this week's episode, Michelle says goodbye to Threads (for the 15th time), Serena Williams sparks headlines with GLP-1s, and Chloe responds to an Insta troll’s comment about her so-called “massive cooter.” Plus the usual life updates you didn't ask for!
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The Biggest Loser, Birth Control & Bridal Coaches
Plenty to complain about this week as we grapple with a new Netflix documentary, fight with people in Threads and discuss whether or not birth control is responsible for the terrible dating choices you made in your 20s (yes, really). Thank you for listening - please share & tag us on your stories...
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Going Viral, Female Viagra & Kebabs Around the Mouth
Michelle and I got spicy this week — we’re talking female Viagra and Kebabs, the science of sexual desire, and how going viral is exhausting. With our normal unprofessional chit chats! 💊🔥
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Supporting male mental health & ED recovery (with Conor Nolan)
In today's episode, Michelle sat down with Conor Nolan, author and public speaker about his journey navigating his mental health and anorexia recovery. We chat all about: Why ice baths won't fix your mental health Barriers to male mental health What the fitness industry can do to promote positive...
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The Skims Chin Strap & Menopause Myths We Didn’t Ask For
This week on the podcast… Michelle and I dived into the wild world of wellness trends. From the Skims chin strap to a “hormone-hacking” coach blaming the pill for menopause symptoms, we unpacked how these narratives often dismiss science and feed the ever-growing anti-medicine wellness bubble....
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GLP-1s in kids, hormone hackers & healthcare
Join Michelle and Chloe as we chat about the latest in the fitness and wellness worlds - no homone hacking required. - Connect with us: @michellecarroll1 x @chloetevensphysio
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Selling your coaching without selling your soul (with Shona Denovan)
Do people really not want to work on body image or is your marketing just trash? What do most coaches get wrong when it comes to marketing? How important is it to work in alignment with your values? This week, Michelle sat down with the fabulous @unapologeticallyshona, business coach & mentor…
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Leaking in female athletes and why the PT industry needs to change
This week we are chatting about the latest study looking at pelvic floor dysfunction in female GAA players, why charlatans make the best nutrition coaches and what needs to change for the PT industry to be seen as credible. Plus, find out where Chloe is currently on the Bristol Stool chart.…
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Misogyny in Disguise: From GLP-1 to Chris Brown
Michelle and Chloe are back chatting all things internalised misogyny — from the lens by which society views GLP-1 weight loss drugs to why women are still showing up to Chris Brown concerts. Please like, comment, or subscribe. If you have any ideas for future episodes, let us know!
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Is the fitness industry a fashion show or a pyramid scheme?
This week on the pod, we are chatting about what your gymwear says about you - from your pelvic floor, body image and feminist views. Big asks from a high-waisted legging. We are also discussing how the fitness industry acts as a pyramid scheme to keep you trapped. All in a day's work. - Chloe:...
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Overworking, Comparison & Lessons from Healthcare
What can working in healthcare give you other than undereye bags and a large Botox bill? Does working hard automatically mean it'll pay off? Should you be checking in with clients every week? Michelle & Chloe are reunited this week and are yapping about all of the above and more. - Work with...
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Weight Stigma in Fitness (with Dr Kat Schneider)
Health and fitness professionals have the highest rates of weight stigma/bias... which is not ideal considering the majority of overweight individuals will seek out their help. I had the pleasure of sitting down with one of the leading experts in the area, Dr Kat Schneider. Kat is a Research…
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Menopause – the Myths, the Marketing & the Messy Middle
Chloe & Michelle dive into the wild world of menopause — from predatory wellness practices and overpriced supplements, to what actually works when it comes to exercise, nutrition, and body image. It’s time to cut through the noise, call out the BS, and talk honestly about what women really need…
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What Women Deserve to Know — Fertility, Hormones, Menopause & Prof Joyce Harper’s Take
Prof Joyce Harper on Fertility Facts, AMH Testing & the Menopause Muddle Chloe is joined by Professor Joyce Harper — UCL Professor of Reproductive Science, women’s health advocate, and author of Your Fertile Years — for a no-nonsense conversation on fertility, hormones, and everything in between....
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Wine & Whine: Body Shaming, Female Supplement Scams & Pseudofeminism
This week, we have beef with almost everyone in the fitness industry. We talk about what's been grinding our gears lately, all accompanied by some nectar of the gods (discount M&S wine and old Prosecco in the fridge). From Michelle being body shamed to Chloe being triggered by fat loss coaches…
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From "my body is my business card" to sold-out coaching and food freedom: Client success story (with Ellen Johnston)
The fitness industry is full of biznizz mentors that tell you that "your body is your business card", which often leaves coaches struggling with confidence, marketing and body image. Luckily, over on my 1:1 coaching we say two fingers to that. Here's what we did to help Ellen sell out her…
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Diet Culture & How It Hold Us Back (with Karen Oliver)
Diet culture is apparently the cause and solution to all our problems... but in reality it's what stops us from living a body confident and food freedom life. Today, Michelle sat down with the incredible Karen Oliver to chat about all things diet culture. Karen is currently pursuing her BSc in...
About this show
What do you get when you combine a women's health physio and a PhD researcher? A podcast.Join Michelle and Chloe as we discuss all things women's health, nutrition, body image and everything in between... no hormone hacking required!Follow us on Instagram:@michellecarroll1@chloestevensphysio
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Michelle Carroll and Chloe Stevens