PODCAST · business
GYDA - Grow Your Digital Agency
by GYDA - Robert Craven and Janusz Stabik
GYDA (Grow Your Digital Agency) is a business consultancy that helps digital agency leaders run the agencies they want to run, so they can live the life they want to lead. We do this by using the mastermind process to spearhead agency growth.The GYDA Talks Podcast includes interviews and discussions between Robert Craven, Janusz Stabik and Digital Agency Experts. Each podcast is full of knowledge to help you Grow Your Digital Agency.
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Inside the Deal: Scaling, Rebranding, and Rebuilding an Agency to £4M+ with George Blandford, Ology Group
In this GYDA Talks, Rob talks to George Blandford, co-owner of the Ology Group. Specialising in different approaches to authority gain. 10+ years of experience in this sector. International speaker, trainer and oxygen consumer.Robert and George discuss scaling and rebranding agencies UK Linkology and Reachology to over £4 million in turnover.George talks through their strategy of leveraging business partnerships, securing equity deals and fractional CMO roles in other ventures, and implementing a "blue ocean" product positioning strategy to rebuild client trust in the digital industry.They highlight the importance of delegation for strategic thinking and the contrast between George’s business-person approach and that of a typical "technician" agency owner.Topics covered:Deal-Making and Entrepreneurial ApproachBenefits of Business PartnershipsGeorge's Diverse Business PortfolioClient Value Perspective from Business OwnershipLeveraging Fractional CMO and Equity DealsAddressing Risk and Confidence in Marketing AgenciesStructuring Equity PartnershipsProduct Positioning and Blue Ocean StrategyRebuilding Trust in the Digital IndustryUnderstanding Customer Acquisition Cost and Lifetime ValueThe Scaling and Rebranding Journey of LinkologyGrowth Challenges and Future StrategyThe Importance of Strategic Thinking and Delegation
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Liberating The Profit Locked in Poor Lead Generation Process with Jon Payne of RevOps
In this GYDA Talks, Rob talks to Jon Payne… a "Totally unemployable" RevOps Consultant and Fractional Commercial Director.‘It's called RevOps these days, but since 1998, I've been helping businesses grow through the creation and execution of digital strategies across marketing, sales and customer service, particularly around websites and, increasingly, HubSpot.’Rob and Jon discuss:Defining RevOpsRevOps and Agency GrowthSystematising the Sales ProcessImproving Lead Nurturing and QualificationForecasting and Deal PrioritisationKey Takeaways and Final AdviceProfit is often locked in an agency's sales pipeline due to poor conversations or letting leads slip away… a systematic approach and better conversations, focusing on the client's real motivators (like buying a house in Italy), are essential for unlocking this profit and gaining referrals.
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How to Attract Dream Clients with Matt Essam
In this GYDA Talks, Robert talks to Matt Essam, a creative business coach, author, and speaker who helps creative studio founders and service-based business owners attract better clients and grow with confidence. He’s known for practical frameworks such as his Partnership Playbook™, that turn relationship-building into a consistent client-attraction strategy.With over a decade of experience, Matt combines mindset, strategy, and real-world outreach tactics to help creatives charge their worth and build sustainable, fulfilling businesses. He also shares insights through content, coaching, and his Creative Courage podcast, supporting founders to step into clear, confident leadership.Matt and Robert discuss the challenge agencies face in differentiating themselves and why creatives often struggle to attract the right clients despite being highly talented, a problem often stemming from prioritising delivery over marketing.Matt talks through his three-pillar model for attracting dream clients: defining the ideal client, creating a low-risk offer (like a scorecard) to provide a "taste" of value, and leveraging partnerships to bypass the lengthy process of building trust.And they wrap up with a discussion around the core mindset shift, which involves focusing communication on the client's current struggles rather than the agency's services, requiring agencies to articulate the client’s problems better than they can themselves.Topics covered:Client StrugglesMarketing Gaps in the Creative IndustryThe Dilemma for Small Agency OwnersThe Talent Limit and Marketing CompetenceThe First Mindset Shift: Focus on Client ProblemsAgency Engagement at the Decision-Making ProcessArticulating Client Problems for TrustThe Three Pillars for Attracting Dream ClientsWhoOfferPartnershipCase Study: The Sponsorship Assessment ScorecardThe Low-Risk Offer and Sales ApproachThe Partnership Pillar: Shortcut to TrustKey Takeaways and Golden Nuggets"Somebody somewhere today woke up with exactly what you need"Agencies must "be able to articulate your ideal client's problems better than they can" by focusing on the client's experience, not their productAccess Matt's Studio Leadflow System here:https://resources.mattessam.co.uk/studioleadflowsystem
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Pricing, Positioning & Pitching - Blair Enns on How Agencies Must Evolve
Blair Enns is the founder of Win Without Pitching, the sales training organisation for expert advisors and practitioners.Author of three books, The Four Conversations: A New Model for Selling Expertise (2024), Pricing Creativity: A Guide to Profit Beyond the Billable Hour (2018) and The Win Without Pitching Manifesto (2010).Co-host, along with David C. Baker, of the podcast 2Bobs: Conversations on the Art of Creative Entrepreneurship.Advocate of integrity-based selling and value-based pricing, serving those who are experts first and salespeople second.In this GYDA Talks, Rob was joined by Blair to gain his insight into how agencies must evolve, with a focus on pricing, postioning and pitching.They discussed:Challenges in Agency Sales and MarketingProduction-Oriented vs. Market-Led MindsetImpact of AI on AgenciesPricing Models in the Age of AI"Win Without Pitching" Relevance"The Four Conversations" ModelChallenges in Adopting the New Sales ModelBlair Enns' Future PlansKey Advice: Specialisation and Pricing.
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How To Write The Perfect Digital Marketing Plan with PR Smith
In this podcast, Robert talks to PR Smith, who elaborates on the SOSTAC® framework's components, its application in agencies, the importance of 90-day review cycles, and the role of AI in planning, emphasising careful strategic use.We also discussed overcoming resistance to SOSTAC®, its long-term impact since 1993, and the critical need for a customer-centric approach in all business endeavours, directing agencies to free resources on sostac.org and a weekly AI chat.SOSTAC® Framework Audience and BenefitsPaul Smith's Background and SOSTAC® originsSOSTAC® Framework ComponentsApplying SOSTAC in AgenciesSOSTAC® Planning and Review CyclesAI Integration in SOSTAC®Creative AI Prompting and Strategy WeaknessesEffective Controls and KPIs in SOSTAC®Overcoming Resistance to SOSTAC®Longevity and Impact of SOSTAC®Customer-Centric ApproachSOSTAC® Resources for Agencies
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GYDA State of the Nation for Q1 2026 with Robert Craven
Robert Craven presents the "GYDA State of the Nation for Q1 2026," characterising the market as volatile. He emphasised that "trust is your superpower" for agencies facing AI, outdated business models, and low growth and goes on to detail winning strategies like niche specialisation and service expansion to possibly become "transformation partners." Robert concludes with an action plan for leaders to pivot from "traffic to trust" and drive decisive action.Topics covered:State of the Nation and Market VolatilityAI, Trust, and Market OutlookCurrent Reality and Benchmark ChallengesWinner Strategies and VUCA Version TwoResearch Insights and Strategic ShiftsLeadership and Trust as a SuperpowerAgile Leadership and AI Trust DilemmaProblem Identification and Action PlanFinal Thoughts on Leadership
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Selling Your Business? Don’t Wing It. With David Blois
David, Managing Partner at M&A Advisory and Principal at Eaton Square, leads M&A transactions to maximise client value in consulting, marketing communications, digital, and MarTech sectors. With over 30 years of experience in corporate finance, business management, and strategic consulting, David offers deep insights into industry dynamics and trends.In this no-nonsense conversation, Robert Craven sits down with M&A Advisory’s David Blois to lift the lid on the real-world challenges of mergers and acquisitions.You’ll hear:What makes a business genuinely sellable (hint: it’s not your turnover)When to get an advisor involved (spoiler: sooner than you think)The truth about multiples, valuations and the myths that trip people upHow to increase value and avoid costly mistakesWhether you're prepping to sell, buy, or just want to know what your business is really worth, this episode is packed with sharp insights and practical takeaways. As David says, “You’ve got to work on the business, not just in it.”
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The LinkedIn Growth Blueprint: Branding, Engagement, and ROI for Agency Leaders with Sarah Clay
In this GYDA Talks, Rob talks to Sarah Clay. Sarah is a LinkedIn trainer who helps professionals harness the power of social media to amplify their voices and grow their businesses. With a career that spans law, photography, TV production, and marketing, Sarah discovered her passion for social media while leading PR and social media for a film company. Growing up as the only girl among six brothers taught her creative ways to be heard -skills she now passes on to her clients. Driven by a desire to make an impact, Sarah brings her diverse experience and “secret sauce” strategies to empower others to stand out authentically on LinkedIn.Rob and Sarah discuss how digital agency leaders struggle with LinkedIn despite knowing its importance, likening sporadic efforts to inconsistent gym attendance.Sarah emphasises that LinkedIn should be viewed as a "networking party" focused on building relationships through consistent engagement, personal content, and purposeful commenting.They also discuss strategies for personal vs. company branding, effective posting frequency, handling undesirable comments, and a three-step process for LinkedIn success, concluding that LinkedIn is trending towards a "pay-to-play" model where personal profiles drive engagement.Topics includedMindset Shift for LinkedIn Success: Networking AnalogyPersonal vs. Company BrandingPersonal Content and BoundariesPosting Frequency and Purposeful Commenting StrategyThree-Step LinkedIn ProcessTargeted Engagement HackMetrics and ROIRecommendations for Agency Leaders
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Ryan Hall - Don’t Sell, Solve and Scale Your Digital Agency
In this GYDA Talks, Rob talks to Ryan Hall of Friday Solved, a consulting company that helps businesses solve their sales problems with sustainable and scalable solutions.Over the last 20+ years of experience in positioning, proposition design, and sales strategy, Ryan has helped lead global brands such as Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Sky, M&S, First Direct, Trainline, Vodafone, The Independent, UBS, Bank of America and The Times buy market-leading solutions.His passion is to share his expertise and insights with other founders, CEOs and business leaders who want to create a market position that stands out in a B2B market.Rob and Ryan discuss strategies for digital agency owners to attract clients and help their clients do the same, focusing on Ryan's "don't sell" philosophy outlined in his book, which aims to build trust and buyability rather than pushing services.They address the common issues of broad agency positioning, challenges with founder-led sales, the importance of systemising sales efforts, and shifting from being service-led to solution-focused by understanding customer needs.Ryan emphasised that providing value and knowledge freely is key to effective sales and building authority.
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Scaling from a Startup to an International SEO Leader with Will Bagnall
Will is SUSO’s founder and CEO. He started the company in 2014 as a two-person consultancy business and has transformed it into a team of forty specialists providing technical SEO services for clients in a wide range of industries.While building SUSO, he has gained experience scaling a team of SEO experts and developed an international team based in Poland. Will values a people-first culture, which allows every one of SUSO’s employees to strive for the best in a safe, stimulating, and supportive environment.Robert Craven interviewed Will Bagnall about Suso Digital's history, growth, and adaptation to the evolving digital landscape, including their specialisation in SEO, overcoming scaling challenges through talent strategies, and successful white-label partnerships.They also discussed the significant impact of AI on search and Suso Digital's proactive approach to integrating AI into their services and strategies for the future. Will Bagnall advised new agencies to prioritise brand building and maintain perspective in their work.Introduction to Suso DigitalEvolution from Full-Service to Niche FocusBreaking the Growth BarrierThe White Label StrategyStrategy vs. Luck in Business GrowthImpact of AI on the Agency LandscapeSuso Digital's Approach to AIThe Significance of Thought Leadership and Brand BuildingFuture Outlook for Suso DigitalAdvice for Small Agencies
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Obsess about Gross Profit! - with Rory Spence
In this GYDA podcast Robert talks to Rory Spence of The Wow Company. Key points of the talk are:IntroductionsThe Issue of Agency PricingProfit First Mentality .Understanding Financial DataPresenting Financial Information EffectivelyDeveloping Business AcumenThe Importance of Forecasting and PlanningCustomizing KPI DashboardsThe Golden Nugget: Obsess About Gross Profithttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rory-spence-63023884/
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From Postcodes to AI Redefining Digital Agencies with John Readman
This podcast features a conversation between Robert Craven and John Readman, discussing John's career in digital marketing and the evolution of agency models.John has over 25 years of experience in sales and digital marketing, scaling martech, SaaS and agency businesses.Currently, he’s building ASK BOSCO® - Marketing Analytics AI and Modo25 - Digital Marketing Inhousing - a business he set up with Bonamy Grimes, the Founder of Skyscanner, to revolutionize the way brands and agencies work with their performance data and teams in increase sales and reduce ad spend.Here are the key points:John Readman's Career JourneyStarted in marketing technology, selling postcode software and email marketing solutionsWorked with several digital marketing agencies, including Epiphany and Search LaboratoryHelped grow Search Laboratory from 10 to nearly 200 people over three yearsAttempted to buy businesses he worked for, which led to starting his own agency, Modo 25Evolution of Agency ModelsTraditional agency models are changing due to clients bringing some execution work in-houseModo 25 positions itself as a hybrid agency, supporting clients' journey to in-housing while providing strategic guidanceThis model focuses on more enjoyable, profitable work and is less stressful when executed correctlyAdapting to New TechnologiesJohn organised an internal competition at Modo 25 to encourage the use of AI tools like ChatGPT to improve efficiency and client experienceThe agency is exploring the use of AI tools like N8N for automating tasks and improving productivityWork-Life BalanceModo 25 operates on a 4-day work week, which has led to lower sickness rates and better work-life balance for employeesFuture of AgenciesDiscussion about the potential for AI-driven agencies with minimal human involvementSpeculation on the possibility of running high-revenue agencies primarily using AI toolsThe conversation highlights the ongoing changes in the digital marketing industry and the need for agencies to adapt to new technologies and client expectations
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The Digital Agency Market and Strategies for Success with John Readman
In this GYDA Talks, Robert talks to John Readman of Modo 25 and Ask Bosco. John has over 25 years of experience in sales and digital marketing, scaling martech, SaaS and agency businesses.Currently, he’s building ASK BOSCO® - Marketing Analytics AI and Modo25 - Digital Marketing Inhousing - a business he set up with Bonamy Grimes, the Founder of Skyscanner, to revolutionize the way brands and agencies work with their performance data and teams in increase sales and reduce ad spend. Rob and John discuss the current state of the digital agency market and strategies for success in a challenging environment. Key points from their conversation include:Market Conditions2024 was a tough year for many agencies, with most considering it a success to remain flatThe market is currently challenging, with 9 out of 10 agency leaders at a recent dinner agreeing it's the worst time to run a digital agencyHowever, about 1 in 10 agencies are thriving, particularly those with specialised nichesAgency LandscapeThere's an increase in the number of agencies and experienced freelancers in the marketThe market is oversaturated with generalist agencies, but not with specialised onesMany agencies try to be "all things to all people" instead of focusing on specific nichesStrategies for SuccessSpecialisation: Agencies should focus on specific niches or industries rather than being generalistsClient Selection: Regularly review client profitability and team satisfaction with clientsPricing: Many agencies haven't increased prices despite inflation, but those who have often see little negative impactTeam Satisfaction: Conduct internal surveys to understand which clients the team enjoys working withThe Star PrincipleRobert mentions Richard Koch's "Star Principle" for successful strategy:Be in a growing market spaceHave a tightly defined niche that is growingAim to be the number one player in that nicheThe podcast emphasises the importance of specialisation, strategic pricing, and focusing on profitable, enjoyable client relationships to succeed in the current agency landscape. askbosco.iomodo25.com
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Seeing the Agency Sector Clearly Real Data, Real Decisions with Tom Salmon
Tom supports agency founders and leadership teams to solve gnarly issues. As Co-founder of Agency by Agency, he heads up product development and leads on bespoke research and work with M&A advisors.A people-centric business leader, strategist and marketer, Tom works with agency founders and management teams to develop differentiated propositions, improve operations and manage change. He has held several agency leadership roles, including as MD of the c. £12m t/o performance agency Epiphany (now Jaywing plc). Tom, an ex-agency MD and founder of Agency by Agency, joins Robert to explore why so many agency leaders are forced to make crucial decisions in the dark, relying on patchy data and hearsay.Together, they discuss the surprising truths uncovered by mapping the UK agency landscape—revealing the sector’s diversity, the dominance of micro and nano agencies, and the dangers of one-size-fits-all advice.Expect lively conversation, honest insights, and a commitment to comparing apples with apples. Whether you’re running a boutique agency from your kitchen table or scaling a team of fifty, this podcast is here to help you see the sector—and your place in it—with fresh eyes and better data.Join us as we challenge the “cult of growth,” question loaded terms like “lifestyle agency,” and celebrate the full spectrum of agency life. If you want to make smarter decisions and understand what’s really happening in the agency world, you’re in the right place.
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Client Acquisition with Amanda Walls from Cedarwood
Robert Craven and Amanda Walls of Cedarwood Digital, a Manchester-based performance marketing agency, discussed their client acquisition strategies, focusing on mitigating "ghosting" through initial calls and pre-qualification based on budget (£5,000-£15,000) and ideal client profiles (finance, insurance, healthcare sectors). They emphasised a multi-pronged approach, including LinkedIn case studies (at least one weekly), industry events, and a strong brand presence, while acknowledging AI's impact on SEO and the increasing importance of digital PR.Amanda described Cedarwood Digital as a performance marketing agency specialising in SEO, PPC, and digital PR, with a team of 15 based in Manchester. They highlighted their recent record year despite challenging economic conditions
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Where are agencies headed with Nate Burke
Description:”With well over 25 years of extensive experience both in depth and breadth at the heart of technology, business, eCommerce and digital marketing, I am considered a founding member of the eCommerce and online industry. I enjoy challenging situations, complex problem solving, developing teams and people, and integration of online and offline worlds.I am the CEO at Diginius, a London based software and services company with a performance driven approach designed to help you grow your business online.”The Future of Agencies - the next year or so…This podcast features Robert Craven interviewing Nate Burke, CEO of Genius, about the challenges and opportunities for agencies in the current environment.We discuss common issues that prevent agencies from scaling, such as the tension between winning and delivering work, financial discipline, and team retention.We also touch on the importance of specialization, innovation, and adapting to the ever-changing technological landscape, particularly the impact of AI.The conversation explores the qualities that differentiate high-performing agencies, emphasising the need for engaged leadership, efficient operations, and a focus on client retention.There's no one-size-fits-all playbook for success but we stress the significance of specialisation, strong relationships, and continuous innovation to avoid stagnation.Challenges for AgenciesBalancing Sales and Delivery: Agencies often struggle to balance winning new clients with delivering quality work to existing ones.Financial Discipline: Deciding when to hire new staff and managing finances effectively is crucial.Client Retention: Retaining clients long-term is key to profitability, as the initial onboarding phase is expensive.Differentiation: Agencies need to innovate and offer unique services to avoid client churn.Keys to SuccessEngagement: Agency owners must be fully engaged in the business rather than treating it as a lifestyle venture.Specialisation: Focusing on a specific vertical or niche can improve efficiency and profitability.Strong Relationships: Building deep, trusting relationships with clients is essential, especially for family-run agencies.Adaptability: High-performing agencies are willing to put in systems and processes and position themselves as unique in the market.Understanding Client Needs: Being on top of the numbers and understanding what clients truly want is crucial for growth.Honest Assessment: Agency owners should be honest about their skill sets and address any gaps.No Magic FormulaThere is no one-size-fits-all playbook for agency success. Different models can work depending on the owners' backgrounds, specialisations, and the specific market they serve.
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Are agencies really delivering the service their clients deserve with Remeny Royle Armitage
In this episode, Remeny Royle and Robert Craven pull back the curtain on the all-too-common pitfalls in agency-client relationships.Remeny helps agency owners and professional services to understand what their clients truly think of them. By listening to their clients, she can help proactively turn clients into advocates.From poor communication and lacklustre onboarding to a surprising disconnect between agencies’ self-perception and clients’ real experiences, they explore why so many agencies fall short… and what it takes to stand out.Remeny and Robert share candid stories and practical insights, emphasising the power of proactive engagement, personalised service, and truly understanding the client journey.They champion the idea of treating every client like a VIP… what Robert refers to as the "celebrity service" approach… backed by thoughtful gestures, robust processes, and genuine human connection.Whether you’re an agency leader or a client looking for better partnership, this episode is packed with actionable advice on mapping the customer journey, improving communication, and building relationships that last.Discover how small touches and a focus on the human side of business can transform agency service and why it’s the key to happier clients and greater success.We covered a lot:Poor Agency ServiceCommunication BreakdownLack of OnboardingImportance of Client UnderstandingBuilding RelationshipsProactive EngagementThe Value of Human TouchClient Perception of Agency ServicesAddressing Client ConcernsProfitability and Customer ServiceCustomer Journey MappingThe "Celebrity Service" Approach.Tune in and find out how to take your agency service from average to extraordinary.
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Go-To-Market Uncovered How to Successfully Launch a Product and Drive Sustainable, Long-Term Revenue Growth with Paul Sullivan of ARISE GTM
In this GYDA Talks, Robert talks to Paul Sullivan, a published author and creator of the ARISE™ Go-to-Market methodology, Paul spent over 15 years shaping GTM strategies for tech and service companies. This experience led him to develop ARISE™, a comprehensive framework that combines proven optimisation techniques with cutting-edge technology to drive growth for B2B SaaS, Fintech, and technology-enabled businesses. Its comprehensive nature ensures that no aspect of your go-to-market strategy is overlooked, giving you a sense of security about its thoroughness.
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Repositioning for Agency Success with Will Roberts of WebBox
This podcast features Robert Craven interviewing Will Roberts from Webbox Digital about their journey, repositioning their agency.Webbox Digital initially tried to be a "full-service" agency serving all sectors. However, they realised the needed to narrow their focus to gain a competitive edge.Here's a breakdown of their journey:Version 1.0: Webbox transitioned from serving all sectors to focusing on sport, health, and leisure organisations. This decision was driven by the team's enjoyment of these sectors, their existing client base, and revenue streams.Key Learnings: Will emphasises the importance of speaking to other agency founders who have gone through similar repositioning. This helped him realise potential pitfalls and the fact that it's a "marathon, not a sprint." He also highlights the difficulty of selecting specific sectors and the need to commit to a niche.Execution and Future: While version 1.0 was a step in the right direction, he scores the execution a 6 out of 10. He acknowledges that they could have narrowed their focus further and gotten to market quicker. Version 2.0 will involve targeting specific sub-sectors within sport, health, and leisure, even though their website will still lead with the broader categories.
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Transforming Profitability Through a Culture of Productivity with Amanda Sokell
The podcast is a conversation between Amanda and Robert Craven discussing Amanda's new book "Unblock" about productivity in organizations.Amanda Sokell is a process and productivity expert who helps companies thrive. She’s also a popular speaker, author, entrepreneur, creative, polymath and educationalist; lover of learning, chocolate, dancing and difference.In a 25-year career spanning public relations, software development, coaching, mentoring and training, Amanda has helped transform the productivity culture of organizations from global pharmaceuticals to family-run microbusinesses. Amanda and Robert discussed:Book BackgroundAmanda wrote the book based on her extensive experience in project management, particularly in software development and system implementations. She noticed that many projects fail to deliver significant productivity improvements when not aligned with broader business strategiesProductivity InsightsAmanda highlights a critical observation from a Vistage behavioral economist who suggested that to meet pension demands, businesses need to become three times more productiveProductivity MeasurementAmanda discusses a key productivity metric called output per worker, which is:Calculated as gross value added (revenue less external invoiced costs) divided by the number of full-time equivalent employeesA universal metric recognised by the Office of National StatisticsCurrently not widely used by most companies across industriesDigital Agency ContextMost digital agencies currently measure productivity through utilisation ratesTypically, only fee-earning staff are included in productivity calculationsThe current approach doesn't capture the productivity of the entire business systemBroader ImplicationsAmanda argues that the lack of productivity focus contributes to:Stagnant economic growth since 2008Challenges with standard of livingPotential economic challenges for younger generationsThe podcast aims raises awareness about productivity measurement and its critical importance for business performance and economic development.
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Go-To-Market Uncovered: How to Successfully Launch a Product and Drive Sustainable, Long-Term Revenue Growth with Paul Sullivan of ARISE GTM
BOOK REVIEWIn this GYDA Talks, Robert talks to Paul Sullivan, a published author and creator of the ARISE™ Go-to-Market methodology, Paul spent over 15 years shaping GTM strategies for tech and service companies. This experience led him to develop ARISE™, a comprehensive framework that combines proven optimisation techniques with cutting-edge technology to drive growth for B2B SaaS, Fintech, and technology-enabled businesses. Its comprehensive nature ensures that no aspect of your go-to-market strategy is overlooked, giving you a sense of security about its thoroughness.
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Repositioning for Agency Success with Will Roberts of WebBox
In this GYDA Talks, Robert interviews Will Roberts from WebBox about their journey, repositioning their agency.WebBox initially tried to be a "full-service" agency serving all sectors. However, they realised the need to narrow their focus to gain a competitive edge.Here's a breakdown of their journey:Version 1.0: WebBox transitioned from serving all sectors to focusing on sport, health, and leisure organisations. This decision was driven by the team's enjoyment of these sectors, their existing client base, and revenue streams.Key Learnings: Will emphasises the importance of speaking to other agency founders who have gone through similar repositioning. This helped him realise potential pitfalls and the fact that it's a "marathon, not a sprint." He also highlights the difficulty of selecting specific sectors and the need to commit to a niche.Execution and Future: While version 1.0 was a step in the right direction, he scores the execution a 6 out of 10. He acknowledges that they could have narrowed their focus further and gotten to market quicker. Version 2.0 will involve targeting specific sub-sectors within sport, health, and leisure, even though their website will still lead with the broader categories.
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Transforming Profitability Through a Culture of Productivity with Amanda Sokell
Link to the book review.The podcast is a conversation between Amanda and Robert Craven discussing Amanda's new book "Unblock" about productivity in organisations.Amanda Sokell is a process and productivity expert who helps companies thrive. She’s also a popular speaker, author, entrepreneur, creative, polymath and educationalist; lover of learning, chocolate, dancing and difference.In a 25-year career spanning public relations, software development, coaching, mentoring and training, Amanda has helped transform the productivity culture of organizations from global pharmaceuticals to family-run microbusinesses.Amanda and Robert discussed:Book BackgroundAmanda wrote the book based on her extensive experience in project management, particularly in software development and system implementations. She noticed that many projects fail to deliver significant productivity improvements when not aligned with broader business strategies.Productivity InsightsAmanda highlights a critical observation from a Vistage behavioural economist who suggested that to meet pension demands, businesses need to become three times more productive.Productivity MeasurementAmanda discusses a key productivity metric called output per worker, which is:Calculated as gross value added (revenue less external invoiced costs) divided by the number of full-time equivalent employeesA universal metric recognised by the Office of National StatisticsCurrently not widely used by most companies across industries.Digital Agency ContextMost digital agencies currently measure productivity through utilisation ratesTypically, only fee-earning staff are included in productivity calculationsThe current approach doesn't capture the productivity of the entire business system.Broader ImplicationsAmanda argues that the lack of productivity focus contributes to:Stagnant economic growth since 2008Challenges with the standard of livingPotential economic challenges for younger generations.The podcast aims to raise awareness about productivity measurement and its critical importance for business performance and economic development.
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GYDA State of the Nation 2025
Description: Watch as Robert Craven looks at the state of the nation in January 2025. We preview what's on the horizon and the steps that you need to implement to get ahead in the coming year.Robert discusses:Being clear on the thinking behind what were doingWhat are the winners, the high-performers doing?What are the opportunities out there?How do you break the glass ceiling?AI predictions for the coming year.
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From Success to Failure to Success. An interview with Phil Bray from Yardstick
The podcast features a conversation between Robert Craven and Phil from Yardstick, focusing on Phil's experiences as a business owner and the lessons learned from both successes and failures in his career.Key Themes and Highlights:Introduction to Phil: Phil discusses his background, including his experience as a financial adviser and the establishment of his marketing agency, Yardstick, which specialises in serving financial planners. He emphasises the importance of niche markets in building resilient businesses.Business Journey: Phil recounts his journey starting in 1995, moving from telesales to becoming a financial adviser. He shares the pivotal moment when he decided to start his own financial planning practice in 2006, fuelled by ambition and some initial success.Acquisition Challenges: The conversation delves into Phil's experiences with acquiring other businesses. While the first acquisition was successful, the second one faced significant challenges due to poor due diligence, personnel issues, and market downturns, leading to cash flow problems.Red Flags Ignored: Phil reflects on the red flags he overlooked during the acquisition process, including unhappy employees and a strained relationship with the vendor. He discusses how emotional investment and sunk costs influenced his decision-making.Decision-Making Struggles: The discussion highlights Phil's struggles with timely decision-making amid financial difficulties. He acknowledges that optimism led to slow responses to emerging problems, which ultimately exacerbated the situation.Crisis Management: A critical moment in the narrative involves a leaked restructure plan that was mistakenly distributed to all employees, creating further turmoil within the organisation. This incident underscores the challenges of managing communication and transparency during crises.Takeaways: The podcast concludes with insights on resilience in business, the importance of recognising when to pivot or cut losses, and the value of learning from both successes and failures.The conversation is characterized by an honest exploration of the complexities of running a business, emphasising that success is often intertwined with setbacks and difficult decisions.
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Creating a Business to Support Health
In this GYDA Talks, Janusz talks to Steve Grant of Figment. Steve Grant is the founder of Figment, a multi award-winning UK SEO agency with a holistic approach that gets results. Figment makes it easier for healthcare practitioners and professional service providers to get found online by their ideal clients and grow healthy, sustainable businesses. Janusz and Steve discuss health and how it is impacted by running a business. Steve talks candidly about becoming ill and being vulnerable in the early days of Figment.Stress, work vs homelifeTrauma, hospital visits, symptoms, diagnoses and understanding the underlying problem fuelling it.Taking a holistic approach to wellbeing and pain. - the mind/body connection.The connection between emotional and physical pain.Finding resilience to break the negative cycle of being unwell.The Curable App - accepting and reframing pain. Strategies to complement your wellbeing.What worked and the tactics to being wellGetting to the bottom of stressCreating a sustainable balance to counter stressPrioritising wellbeing and bocking a set amount of time out of your diaryPacing yourself to accommodate your stress thresholdThe compound benefit of small, consistent habitsLearn to listen to your body, if you haven’t got time for wellbeing, then it’s time for wellbeing! QUOTE for social: Everyone has a stress threshold. Learn ways to counter yours.
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Storytelling, AI and everything
In this GYDA Talks, Robert, talks to Ben Lee, Head of Data and AI at Bidwells.Ben Lee, a Cambridge-born former journalist, has cultivated a diverse media and PR career, giving him a deep understanding of the property market. He played a key role in Bidwells' award-winning Radical Capital campaign, which positioned the company as a thought leader and secured a government advisory role. His expertise in technological, political, and societal trends provides valuable insights to Bidwells' leadership.An advocate for artificial intelligence and Web3, Ben frequently delivers seminars and participates in panel discussions on integrating AI into marketing and communications. His work ensures that Bidwells remains at the forefront of industry developments, benefiting clients and communities alike. Rob and Ben discuss::Exciting in the medium-term but not so exciting in the sort-term30-40% efficiency gainsAI & HypeThe Hype CycleWhat do agencies need to doThe dangers
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Navigating Post-Exit Identity: Balancing Entrepreneurship, Agency Ownership, and Business Growth in the AI Era
In this GYDA Talks, Robert, talks to Dan Fallon of Fresh Ventures. Dan Fallon is an optimist, marketer, entrepreneur, and investor with a strong expertise in business growth, online advertising, and marketing. He is known for his clear-sighted and straightforward approach to identifying what makes a business thrive and has the drive to make that happen.Dan successfully exited SearchStar by selling it to Welocalize and remains a minority shareholder in ZapMap.Through Fresh Ventures, Dan is creating a portfolio of consultancy roles and investments that align with his passions, skills, market needs, and potential for reward. If you'd like to start a conversation, feel free to reach out. Rob and Dan discuss:Is Exit so clever?And then you become an employee…What is your identity post-exit?You need a clear idea of what you are going to do next.Are you an entrepreneur or an agency owner?You can scale a business like a pyramid.You can just see what you’d look like at double the size.In AI , agencies will still have a role.The story of the deal.Run a great business then people will buy it.
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Why Publish? Unveiling the Purpose, Power of Storytelling, and Strategic Planning for Maximum Impact
In this GYDA Talks, Robert, talks to Iain Scott of Base Creative. Iain is CEO // Director of Growth @basecreative. Founding Partner @exceptional™. Digital strategy & marketing for B2B, & organisations driving positive change. Speaker. Author of ‘Socialise’. Angel Investor in tech for good. Rob and Iain discuss:BackgroundWhy publish?What was the purpose?Story-telling as a differentiator - we all love sharingThe costs and benefits of publishingHow it makes you stand-outTiming is longer than you imagine, plan it, get help from outside, it is hard to do it on your own, have a budget and a plan to promote it
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EOTs - the best way to sell your business
In this GYDA Talks, Robert, talks to Chris Budd of Ovation Finance. Chris Budd is the author of *The Financial Wellbeing Book* (2016) and *The Four Cornerstones of Financial Wellbeing*, and the founder of the Institute for Financial Wellbeing. An expert on Employee Ownership Trusts (EOTs), he serves as a NED and consultant.In 2000, Chris founded Ovation Finance Ltd, a financial planning practice. In 2018, he sold the majority of the company to an EOT, which now controls it for the benefit of its employees. Having transitioned his own business to an EOT, Chris now provides coaching and consultancy to owners and employees looking to pursue this route.Chris authored *The Eternal Business*, published by Harriman House in September 2018. The Eternal Business Consultancy offers individual advice and support from Chris or his associates to help businesses create sustainable models that last beyond their current owners. The consultancy also runs an online program to assist businesses in this transition.A qualified business coach with an Advanced Diploma in Coaching and Mentoring from the European Mentoring and Coaching Council, Chris is also a novelist and podcaster, producing the Financial Wellbeing podcast. As a seasoned speaker, he addresses topics such as coaching skills for professionals, financial wellbeing, and employee ownership at conferences and events.Chris has served as a non-executive director for various private businesses and organizations, including Penny Brohn UK and Thriving Places. His specialties include business coaching and consulting, and understanding and embracing employee ownership.Rob and Chris discuss:What is the EOT, how does it work, and what are the steps you need to take now to get the best possible exit???You will be hard pushed to find a digital agency owner who sold their business and got what they expectedAs business owner you are trapped.The Fish and Chip dealEOT is…?How is £ shared?From 10 staff….Not the same as B- corp …EOT is about change of controlTransition before transactionA tax-free exitHow much do you NEED to sell the business?Become the least important person in the business3 stage processowner and core proposition documentgather key people and educateannounce it and run shadow processWhat next?What’s next for the owner - get a financial plannerIs EOT the the exit you want?Start making self the least important person … create a functioning board…
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Let's talk... for 60 minutes
In this GYDA Talks, Robert, talks to Barnaby Wynter of The Brand Bucket Company. Barnaby Wynter is a strategic brand creation expert with over 457 brands to his name, dedicated to helping businesses become the go-to brands in their industries. Entering the marketing industry in 1987, Barnaby quickly rose to become the youngest MD of a UK Top 200 fully integrated advertising agency in London, where he spent 10 years developing the definitive Brand Bucket® Programme to optimize marketing in the knowledge economy.Since 2010, Barnaby has been embedding The Brand Bucket® approach in a wide range of corporates and SMEs globally through his fully outsourced business communications agency. In 2021, he co-founded a Community Interest Company (CIC) to support black business owners with mental health challenges and has raised funds to build a new school in Uganda, set for construction in 2024.Barnaby enjoys a portfolio career as a published author, professional speaker (addressing over 17,000 businesses globally), mentor, NED, and marketing expert. As a Founder Freeman of The Company of Entrepreneurs, he is working hard to achieve full Livery Company status in the City of London as a sponsorship lead.Married to a medical director of one of the UK's largest out-of-hours GP services and a father of three grown-up daughters, Barnaby also enjoys DIY projects and holds a season ticket at Chelsea Football Club. He collaborates with C-Suite executives to ensure businesses are marketing-led, helping them define their value propositions, identify ideal target audiences, and build operations focused on long-term commercial relationships.Barnaby's expertise includes creating presentations for fundraising or exit, aligning systems and processes with customer expectations, and designing seamless online and offline experiences. He is passionate about supporting challenger businesses in finance, professional services, education, technology, and charity, aiming to make the world a better place. His mentoring approach ensures skill transfer to internal teams, making his role redundant while leaving businesses with a comprehensive Brand Bucket® Programme manual. Rob and Barnaby discuss:The new book, ‘Become the Go-To Brand - mastering inbound marketing strategy’.88% decisions start onlinePeople contact you when they are 57% along their decision processPeople look for information and help to buy… so demonstrate you care about them… then focus on executionCreating the value proposition: get out of the way… differentiate in the style of your ideal buyer (especially in a commodity market)Be clear about the difference between brand and brandingHow to differentiate: engage and activateinsightful/helful content (FOMO)demonstrate valuetest drivedeliverDistnguish between the business owner and a business leader
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Lessons learned from growing Three Agencies
In this GYDA Talks, Robert, talks to Greg Gifford of Search Lab Digital. Greg is an experienced Local SEO consultant specializing in the automotive industry. An experienced conference speaker, his movie-themed slide decks are always audience favorites.Rob and Greg discuss:COO vs CEO - ideas vs making it happenWork ON or IN the agencyLessonsDocumented processes (track time for selling time) - efficiency leads to profitability… so we must avoid screw-ups… or lose clients/team - so reduce the bumps in the roadDo client work for too longDependent on referrals - get a sales team or processHR LeaderNo business educationUse Culture IndexCustomer Service Rapport: Kaizan.aiService is easy but business growth is hardDon’t be scared to let go and let others do the work
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How to Identify and Focus on Serious Buyers
In this hour-long workshop, Ben Potter explores the importance of pre-qualifying leads and gives his tips on how to master this conversation at the start of the sales process.
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Director Fatigue
In this video, I discuss the concept of director fatigue and how it is affecting various aspects of our lives. I highlight the current state of affairs, including the sluggishness in pipelines, the prolonged duration of tasks, and the exhaustion experienced by agency directors and clients alike. I also touch upon external factors such as upcoming elections, wars in Ukraine and the Middle East, post-COVID hangover, and the inflationary economy. Through this video, I aim to shed light on the challenges we face and encourage a deeper understanding of the impact of director fatigue on our work and personal lives.
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The Growth and EOT Sale Story of NOVOS with Sam Hurley
In this GYDA Talks, Robert talks to Sam Hurley. Sam is Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer at NOVOS. He previously headed up SEO for Made.com across all major European markets. His achievements include growing Made's non-brand SEO traffic by over £10.4million. NOVOS has grown from 0 to 45 people in 3 years. They've won numerous search & drum awards and were most recently voted 5th Best place to work in the UK. Robert and Sam discuss the growth and sale story of NOVOS, the highs, the lows and the journey to an Employee Ownership Trust. THE GROWTH STORYFalse startsDoing what others don't docreate a structure/framework from day onewrite it all down and share itSpecific niches are a good thingThink Tank model THE EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP STORYEmployee Ownership TrustStandard sale destroys the cultureDid EMI first then EOTHow it all workedAll the pros (and a bit of downside)
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Jon Waring of 3sixty on How to Increase Your Pitch Win Rate
In this GYDA Talks, Janusz talks to Jon Waring. Jon is the Founder & CEO of digital agency 3sixty. They design, build and maintain websites exclusively for the travel industry. 3sixty’s work is recognized industry-wide for performance and conversion rates.Janusz and Jon discuss pitching. Listen as they give their insight into the process and why they have an enviable track record of pitch wins.
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Sabrina Chevannes on Why There is Such a Lack of Diversity in the Creative Sector
In this GYDA Talks, Robert talks to Sabrina Chevannes. Sabrina is the Managing Director of Complex Creative. She started her first business in 2008 so has a wealth of experience in running companies. Having made many mistakes along the way, Sabrina is keen to help prevent others from making the same mistakes.With clients as high profile as UNICEF, Pirelli and the Ministry of Defence, she is in a position to give some tips as to how to land major names.Sabrina specialises in everything creative, holding qualifications in design, development, and marketing.Sabrina is also a professional chess player and often applies her expert logic and strategy skills to her business. She has written two chess books for children which have been published in over 20 languages and are selling rapidly all over the world!Robert and Sabrina discuss why there is such a lack of diversity in the creative sector.The No BS Agency - what does that mean, and what is the BS that you avoid?Why is diversity an issue?How does it come about and what are the consequences?What is wrong when provincial white males create an agency employing their white male mates?How does diversity help the agency ad its clientsRunning an agency when you are not a white male
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Andy Lambert on Social 3.0 and Marketing Your Agency
In this GYDA Talks, Robert talks to Andy Lambert of ContentCal. Andy is one of the founding team and director of growth at ContentCal. From starting out as an agency and then launching their software product in 2017, ContentCal is now used by over 40,000 businesses in over 140 countries. In December 2021, ContentCal was acquired by Adobe.Robert and Andy talk about Andy’s new book ‘Social 3.0: How forward-thinking B2B’s can unleash the power of social media.’ Plus Andy gives his insight into the journey of building and selling ContentCal.
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Recruiting in 2022: The Top Five Challenges for Digital Agencies with Leon Milns
In this GYDA Expert Seminar, Leon Milns of We Are Adam, joins Robert Craven to talk everything recruitment in 2022. They discuss what's happening in the digital agency space and the top five challenges facing every agency when recruiting. The key points;Shortage of talent and huge demand – how do you attract / entice / seduce the best people to leave and join you?Retention – there’s a lack of stickability, heads are constantly being turned and people are jumping shipAffordability – salaries are sky-rocketing, it’s a sellers marketUniqueness of proposition – how are you standing out in a crowded market? Top candidates will have a handful of agencies chasing them!Creating a compelling culture – the evolving post pandemic world. Remote vs in office, permutations of what people want vs business demands.
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Carl Sargunar on CTOs in Digital Agencies
In this GYDA Talks, Janusz talks to Carl Sargunar. Carl is a technical consultant with a wide range of experience in the field of web and application development. From being the CTO of a thriving agency to helping his clients grow their technology to meet their ambitions, he can also be found tinkering in his garage with IoT devices.Janusz and Carl talk about the role and importance of the Chief Technology Officer in agencies:What is a CTO?What makes a good one or a poor one?Do they need to be from a tech background?Being a great leader and the main challengesWhat should you look out for when recruiting a CTO?
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Masterclass - Rethinking the Customer Journey with John Jantsch of Duct Tape Marketing
In this GYDA Masterclass, John Jantsch of Duck Tape Marketing, gives his insight into the Customer Journey.Marketing today is less about demand creation and more about organising behaviour – marketers must understand how to guide customers through a full marketing journey.John will take you through the framework that has been created by Duct Tape Marketing and has been employed in thousands of businesses and consultants to make their own customer journeys a success. This is a bite-size version of the hour-long video. To watch the rest head on over to GYDA Member Hub!
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Stop Wasting Time at Work with Paul Holbrook
In this GYDA Talks, Robert talks to Paul Holbrook. Paul is an author and leadership rebel who, after 20 years managing rapid technology change in the City of London, decided that he’d had enough of standing by, watching the toxic effects that accidental managers had on their people and themselves. From that moment, he decided he wanted to spend his time creating a world of better-led people.As an all-round optimist and creator of the Diary Detox®, Paul believes the best way to eradicate accidental managers is to make sure they don’t become managers in the first place.The missing piece is to promote only those people who genuinely love people and fix the foundations of management training to transform how managers use their diary.Robert and Paul discuss the uncomfortable truth about how we WASTE time at work. Why you need to Diary Detox to become more productive and why you need to plan the life that you really want. This is a bite-size version of the hour-long video. To watch the rest head on over to GYDA Member Hub!
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Building and Selling GoProposal with James Ashford
In this GYDA Talks, Robert talks to James Ashford. James helps accountants and bookkeepers to grow their firms into profitable businesses by pricing consistently, selling more confidently and minimising risk.He first achieved this in his own firm – MAP – where alongside Founder Paul Barnes, they first developed GoProposal & implemented a sales culture to ensure they were maximising the value of their clients.Now, as Vice President of GoProposal by Sage, he continues to help thousands of accountants and bookkeepers worldwide to achieve the same success with their businesses. Not only through the software, but by sharing his philosophies and strategies in his books, training courses, video content and keynote talks. A really exciting, honest and upfront interview in two parts…Part 1: The GoProposal thinking and how it makes businesses more effectiveHow people sellThe psychology that stops us from charging moreHow we sell, how they buyCharging the right price (for you) Part 2: The Sale of Go Proposal to Sage and what agency owners can learn from someone who has been there and done it.It was built to have options (including sale) from day oneThe saleThe valuationThe sale processThe due diligence This is a bite-size version of the hour-long video. To watch the rest head on over to GYDA Member Hub!
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How to Market Your Digital Agency with Itai Sadan of DUDA
In this GYDA Talks, Robert talks to Itai Sadan. Itai is the CEO and Co-Founder of Duda, a professional website builder for agencies and SaaS Platforms. Under Itai’s leadership, Duda rapidly expanded its professional website builder product suite with an emphasis on empowering web professionals with cutting-edge tools to help them create beautiful conversion-driving websites at scale. To date, Duda hosts more than a million active websites that have been built by over 17,000 customers globally. Itai’s expertise in the online presence and web design space has been cited by USA Today, Forbes, Inc., HuffPost, Search Engine Land, and more.Robert and Itai discuss:Marketing Digital Marketing AgenciesDuda – the platform and toolsWho are the ‘agency’ clients?Why agencies should differentiateWhy agencies should niche and howGetting the infrastructure and processes in placeHow to charge and why you should have a subscription system This is a bite-size version of the hour-long video. To watch the rest sign up for GYDA Member Hub!
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GYDA (Grow Your Digital Agency) is a business consultancy that helps digital agency leaders run the agencies they want to run, so they can live the life they want to lead. We do this by using the mastermind process to spearhead agency growth.The GYDA Talks Podcast includes interviews and discussions between Robert Craven, Janusz Stabik and Digital Agency Experts. Each podcast is full of knowledge to help you Grow Your Digital Agency.
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