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Optimized Health
by Mandy Livingston, Josh Porter, Laura Chastain
Josh Porter, Mandy Livingston and Laura Chastain join together for an encouraging podcast; empowering you with education and motivation to live a life of optimal health.
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Ep. 64 End of the Year Round Table Part 2 Women’s Health Hormones and the Power of Reinvention
In Part 2 of our end of year round table, we sit down with Optimize U women’s health providers Laura Chastain, Amanda Shelton, and Ashley Johnson for a meaningful conversation on thyroid health, PCOS, perimenopause, menopause, and what it looks like to support women through every stage of hormonal change.They share the personal experiences that shaped their careers, the mission behind their work, and their commitment to helping women understand their bodies, their symptoms, and their options. This episode highlights the importance of education, connection, and individualized care so women feel prepared, supported, and empowered.What We DiscussHow Their Passion Began• The moments that led each provider into women’s health• How life experience influences the way they support and advocate for patients• Why trust and communication are essential in women’s healthcarePCOS GLP 1s and Root Cause Care• How GLP 1 medications are helping PCOS patients beyond weight loss• Why addressing metabolic and hormonal root issues changes long term outcomes• The role of personalized treatment in restoring balance and confidencePerimenopause Support• Guiding women through the uncertain and overwhelming phases of perimenopause• Helping patients understand what is ahead and how to navigate it• Recommended books and resources for women entering this stageWomen’s Health in 2025• The impact of the FDA removing the black box warning on hormone therapy• How this shift opens the door for better brain, bone, and heart protection• Why women today are becoming more informed, proactive, and engaged in their healthLooking Ahead to 2026• The growing need for research on testosterone in women• Understanding that women naturally produce more testosterone than estrogen• Exploring the concept of mom brain and the potential connection to hormone declineKey Takeaways• Women benefit from care that recognizes their unique history and biology• Education and preparation are key to navigating hormonal changes with confidence• With the right support, women can move forward feeling stronger, clearer, and more empowered
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Ep. 63 End of Year Roundtable: TRT, Peptides, Veterans, and the Future of Preventative Care::
Welcome to Part 1 of our End of Year Special at the Optimized Health Podcast.In this episode our male providers Josh Porter, Matt Hughes, and Justin Edwards sit down together to share how they each discovered their passion for hormones, preventative care, and helping people reclaim their lives.You’ll hear how this work hasn’t just shaped their careers. It has transformed their own personal health journeys. They talk about what keeps them motivated, the mission that drives them, and the question they’re always asking:“What is the next step to help someone become the best version of themselves?”Inside This Episode🔥 Men’s Health Highlights of 2025• FDA removal of Black Box warnings• Understanding red blood cell production while on TRT• Why guidelines are options and not mandates• TRT’s role in prosocial behavior, PTSD support, and anxiety relief• Honoring and serving veterans through better care🧬 Looking Ahead to 2026• The rise of peptides• The truth about the grey market• Why 2025 created a major shift in preventative medicine• What real optimization could look like in the near future💡 Provider Hot Takes• Their favorite patient victory stories• The one optimization superpower they would give every man• The best recovery hack of 2025• The wellness trend they hope disappears in 2026Whether you want to better understand TRT, learn more about peptides, or you’re passionate about improving your health in the year ahead, this conversation is packed with insight, stories, and real hope for what is coming next.
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Ep.62 Mindset, Motivation & Purpose: How to Redefine Success with Pastor Matty Finley
Have you ever wondered what your true purpose in life is , or why motivation fades when the “big moments” are behind you?In this episode, Pastor Matty Finley from Silverdale Baptist joins The Optimized Health Podcast to talk about mindset, and how the way you think can transform your health, fitness, and everyday life.We dive deep into: • Understanding your “why” and creating lasting habits • Finding balance in a world that glorifies burnout • Building community and asking for help • Learning from failure instead of being defined by it • Why the five people closest to you shape your futureMaybe life isn’t where you thought it would be by now, but there’s still purpose, time, and strength in you. Your story isn’t over.🎧 Tune in to rediscover your why and reignite your mindset for growth, purpose, and health.👉 Watch the full episode on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ep.61: Chiropractic Care: Why Prevention Beats Pain | With John Fee of Key to Change Wellness
Do you wait until you’re in pain before seeing a chiropractor? In this episode of The Optimized Health Podcast, we sit down with John Fee, owner of Key to Change Wellness & Chiropractic, to talk about why chiropractic care isn’t just about fixing pain, it’s about preventing it.John shares how his team partners with local companies to help employees reduce strain, prevent injuries, and move better every day. We discuss: When is the right time to see a chiropractor Why every body type needs a customized approach How proactive care can keep you strong, mobile, and pain-freeIt’s time to start listening to your body before it breaks down.👉 Learn more or book online at keytowellness.comFollow @K2Cwellness on Instagram for more insights and tips.
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Ep.60 "Demystifying PCOS: What Every Woman Needs to Know"
Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS) affects millions of women—yet it remains one of the most misunderstood hormone conditions. In this episode, Laura Chastain, NP, sits down with Dr. Catherine Needham, PharmD—known as @CycleBalancedDoc—to unpack everything a woman needs to know about PCOS: from hormone imbalances and insulin resistance to inflammation, fertility, and metabolic health.Together, they explore how functional and root-cause approaches can help women move beyond symptom management to true hormone balance. You’ll learn how nutrition, exercise, stress regulation, and targeted supplementation can restore cycle regularity, improve energy, and support long-term wellness.This episode is for every woman who’s ever felt dismissed, confused, or frustrated by her PCOS diagnosis. You’ll walk away with the knowledge and empowerment to advocate for yourself—and the confidence to start balancing your body from the inside out.
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Ep.59 “Rethinking Dentistry: How Holistic Approaches Are Transforming Oral and Systemic Health”
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Pranav “Dr. K” Kukreja, a Franklin, TN-based dentist who’s challenging conventional thinking through biological and alternative dentistry.Dr. K shares how modern science and ancient wisdom intersect in the mouth—where oral health reflects total-body wellness. We explore the cutting edge of holistic dental care: ozone therapy, platelet-rich fibrin (PRF), laser technology, safe amalgam removal, remineralization, and the link between airway development, orthodontics, and adolescent health.You’ll also hear why Dr. K believes prevention starts far earlier than we think—and how diet, lifestyle, and microbiome health can determine your risk for disease long before a cavity forms.Whether you’re a healthcare provider, biohacker, or just someone who wants to protect their health from the inside out, this conversation will make you rethink what’s possible in modern dentistry.
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Ep. 58 Beyond the Scale: Conversation in Metabolic Health
In this episode, Laura and Mandy discuss both surgical and nonsurgical techniques with Dr. Chris Sanborn, bariatric surgeon and the Director of the Erlanger Metabolic Center. Beyond the Scale dives deep into the evolving science and solutions for weight management. This discussion unpacks the latest in surgical and non-surgical approaches to obesity care—from bariatric surgery and lifestyle strategies to breakthrough medications like GLP-1 therapies. With a balance of medical expertise and practical insights, listeners will gain a clear, compassionate perspective on what truly works for long-term health and sustainable weight loss.
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Ep. 57 “Walking the Talk: How we Test, Train, and Optimize for Longevity”:
“Walking the Talk: How We Test, Train, and Optimize for Longevity”:⸻In this episode, Josh and Mandy pull back the curtain and share their own personal health journeys. From VO₂ max testing to resistance training routines and longevity tools, they discuss what’s working, what they’re learning, and how they’re applying the same principles they encourage their patients to use. Tune in for a real, behind-the-scenes look at how they’re walking the talk—pursuing strength, endurance, and long-term health while balancing the demands of life and leadership.
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Ep. 56 Lessons for Life From Dr. Susan Raschal
In this episode, Mandy Livingston and Laura Chastain sit down with Dr. Susan Raschal, a specialist in allergy, asthma, and immunology, to explore the personal journey and professional insights that shaped her career. She opens up about the obstacles that nearly prevented her from becoming a physician—financial hurdles, lack of guidance, and limited access to resources—and how persistence and resilience helped her overcome them.We dive into important questions such as:Why choose osteopathic vs. allopathic medicine?How do you select a good allergist?What role does lifestyle medicine play in long-term health?What every child needs for a strong foundation in wellness.How to prevent anaphylaxis in food-allergic children.And how to live a high-performance, fulfilling life using simple, practical strategies.Dr. Raschal also shares powerful life lessons learned along the way—insights not only for aspiring physicians but for anyone striving to live with purpose and balance.Whether you’re a parent, patient, student, or professional, this conversation offers practical wisdom, inspiring stories, and actionable steps to improve both health and life.
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Ep. 55 Your Labs Are “Normal”… But You’re Still Sick? with Andrea Mangrum
In this episode of the Optimized Health Podcast, we sit down with Andrea Mangrum, founder of The Bloodwork Analyst and a board-certified Natural Wellness Practitioner. Andrea specializes in Functional Blood Chemistry Analysis, helping people uncover what their standard lab results might really be saying—especially when doctors dismiss them as “normal.”We dive into:Why conventional lab ranges don’t always tell the whole storyHow functional ranges can reveal early signs of dysfunction before diagnosisThe most important markers to pay attention to in your bloodworkHow Andrea’s personal health journey led her to help others find answersPractical steps you can take to use your labs as a roadmap for true wellnessIf you’ve ever been told “everything looks fine” but you still feel unwell, this conversation will open your eyes to a whole new way of looking at your health.
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Ep. 54 “In your Genes: Unraveling the truth about Genetic Counseling”
What is genetic counseling--and what is it not? In this episode, we sit down with Madison Thomason, Certified Genetic Counselor, and patient advocate, Toria Williams, to demystify the field and explain how it empowers individuals and families through education, risk assessment, and support. Our guest discusses common misconceptions, what typically happens during a genetic counseling session, and the types of conditions that may lead someone to seek genetic counseling --such as family history of cancer, unknown history, or inherited syndromes. To bring the conversation to life, we share the real story of Toria Williams, patient and advocate for being proactive with your health by pursuing genetic testing. Toria describes her BRCA genetic testing, risk, and how it led to her decisions to pursue increased surveillance and surgical intervention. She discusses the many emotions, implications, and life-altering decisions that can result from a proactive rather than reactive approach to her own genetics. If you've ever wondered whether your DNA could hold important clues about your health--or feared what those answers might mean--this episode offers clarity, compassion and insight into the real role of genetic counseling in modern medicine.
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Ep. 53 “Retire Strong: Building Wealth and Wellness with Garry Thurman”
In this episode Josh and Mandy sit down with financial advisor and author Garry Thurman to talk about his upcoming book Retire Strong- a bold take on preparing not just for your finances, but you health for the road ahead. They dive into how optimal health is a key investment strategy, why life insurance and retirement plans matter more than ever, and how to align your lifestyle with your long-term goals weather you are in your 30’s or 60’s, this conversation will challenge you to think differently about your legacy-physically and financially.
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Ep. 52 “Built Different: Cutting Through the Fitness Hype with IFBB Pro Matt Davis”
In this episode, Mandy Livingston sits down with IFBB Pro and her personal trainer, Matt Davis, for a no-nonsense conversation about fitness, hype, and what actually works. We dive into the myths circulating on social media—like how long you really need to rest between sets, whether creatine is a one-size-fits-all solution, and how tuning into your body is the ultimate game changer.Matt breaks down the importance of learning what your unique body needs, from movement to nutrition to recovery. We also get into the mindset behind the muscle—what drives him, the music that fuels his workouts, and the personal habits that keep him consistent and motivated. If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to train like a pro or how to truly commit to your wellness journey, this one’s for you.
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Ep. 51 “Skin in the Game: Skincare for Every Age with Lindsey & Eva Bright”
In this inspiring episode, we sit down with Lindsey Bright—founder of Flawless Aesthetics, Nurse Practitioner, and skincare expert—and her 11-year-old daughter Eva Bright, a budding entrepreneur with her own skincare line for young girls. Together, they share how skincare is evolving to start earlier and last longer, becoming a lifelong wellness practice for both women and men.From tween routines to treatments for mature skin, Lindsey and Eva talk about building confidence, self-care habits, and the importance of quality ingredients. Whether you’re 8 or 80, this episode will help you rethink your skincare game and maybe even inspire your own glow-up journey.
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Ep. 50 The Gut/Brain Connection: Getting to the Root of it
Join us as we talk with Amber Conway, Certified Nutrition Practitioner with Nutrition World. Amber discusses how she was led into her field by her own health journey. She discusses the importance of the gut-brain connection and the role the guy plays in our overall health. She then goes deeper into how our nervous system interprets our world and is the primary driver of our well being. She also gives us practical ways we can nurture and support our health through nervous system regulation. Amber is passionate about uncovering root issues that have led to declining health and working with her clients to not only unravel- but to heal from the inside out.
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Ep.49 “Testosterone on Trial: Debunking the Prostate Cancer Myth with Dr Abraham Morgentaler”
Is testosterone truly the villain in prostate cancer, or have we been misled for decades? In this episode of Optimized Health, Josh Porter sits down with world-renowned urologist and testosterone researcher Dr. Abraham Morgentaler to unravel one of the most persistent myths in medicine. They explore the historical roots of the testosterone-prostate cancer dogma, dissect the flawed interpretations of early studies, and bring forward compelling modern evidence that flips the narrative. From active cancer management to hormone optimization, this conversation is a must-listen for clinicians and patients alike. Get ready to challenge outdated thinking and learn why normal is not always optimal. Please visit t4leducation.com for educational opportunities offered by Dr. Morgentaler as well watch Dr. Morgentaler podcast at https://www.youtube.com/@thesexdoctorspod/videos?app=desktop, or https://thesexdoctorspodcast.com/
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Ep. 48 Mental Health and Hormones: A glimpse into connections of the brain and body
Mental health and hormones form a deep connection that can impact every area of our life. Neurological, hormonal, and emotional connections can deeply impact how we think, feel, and function. Join us and our guest, Karisa L. Kaye, Marriage and Family therapist, sex therapist, trauma and ART therapist, as we dive into the science and stories behind mental health and hormone shifts in men and women throughout the lifespan. From mood swings and brain fog to anxiety, motivation, and sleep, we explore how hormones like estrogen, testosterone, progesterone, and cortisol along with our neurotransmitters shape the mind and body-and what you can do to regain clarity, balance, and vitality. Real talk, real solutions, and real hope for your everyday life.
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Ep. 47 Ask me anything: Hormone Optimization, Longevity Hacks, and Controversial Health Trends Uncovered
In this special AMA (Ask Me Anything) episode, Josh Porter takes center stage to answer your burning questions about hormone optimization, longevity strategies, and the latest trends shaking up preventative medicine. From testosterone therapy and peptides to metabolic hacks that supercharge your health, Josh and Mandy tackle listener-submitted questions with honesty, humor, and actionable insights. Expect myth-busting discussions, straightforward explanations of complex topics, and practical advice designed to empower you to take charge of your own health journey. Whether you’re curious about biohacking, hormones, or simply how to feel younger and stronger-this episode is packed with on-site you don’t want to miss.
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Ep. 46 Life Hacks with Ed Jones owner of Nutrition World
Join Mandy Livingston and Laura Chastain as we wrap up our series with Nutrition World featuring owner and founder, Ed Jones. Ed discusses his tried and true habits that help him to maintain his weight, prevent insulin resistance, and aid in his health lifestyle in order to create awareness and promote wellness throughout our community.
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Ep. 45 Nourishing Motherhood: Pregnancy, Postpartum & Breastfeeding with Cady Kuhlman
In this episode of Optimized Health, Mandy Livingston sits down with Cady Kuhlman, co-owner of Nutrition World, to explore the vital role of nutrition and holistic wellness during pregnancy, postpartum and breastfeeding. Cady shares her expertise on essential nutrients for both Mom and baby, safe natural remedies for common pregnancy symptoms and practical breastfeeding tips -including supplements, foods, and techniques to support milk supply. She also discusses postpartum recovery strategies to help balance hormones, boost energy, and support mental well-being. Whether you are expecting, newly postpartum, or support a loved one, this conversation is packed with insights to empower Moms on their journey.
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Ep. 44 Vaccines & Vitality: A Holistic Deep Dive with Adam Chauncey
Join us in this compelling episode of ‘Optimized Health’ as we sit down with Adam Chauncey, a nutrition coach from Nutrition World. We dive into the hot topic of vaccinations, exploring the evidence behind various vaccines and the schedules that guide them. With Adam’s holistic perspective, we unpack the science and discuss what it means for your health and wellness. Whether you’re a health enthusiast or just curious about holistic approaches, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss.
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Ep. 43 Pressure Points: Rethinking Blood Pressure Medications with Dr Curt Dearing
Join Mandy Livingston and Laura Chastain and their guest Dr Curt Dearing, pharmacist with Nutrition World. They discuss issues around poly pharmacy in relation to blood pressure medication, simplifying treatment options and using more natural remedies to approach more optimal health.
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Ep. 42 Ed Jones shares his 40 years of Wisdom: Let’s talk Longevity and Optimal Health
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Ed Jones, founder of Nutrition World and pioneer in the health and wellness industry for over four decades. In this episode, Ed shares his expert insights and practical tips for achieving longevity in 2025. Discover the foundational pillars of optimal health, hear the story behind the creation of Nutrition World, and learn how Ed’s unwavering passion continues to empower others to take charge of their well-being. Whether you’re a health enthusiast or just starting your wellness journey, this episode is packed with valuable advice to help you live your healthiest life.
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Ep. 41 Midlife Mane: Tackling Hair Loss With Confidence
Join Mandy Livingston and Laura Chastain as local expert, Emily Brewer, DCNP, and owner of The Derm Center, explore the primary causes of midlife hair thinning, including hormonal imbalances like menopause, nutritional deficiencies, and medical conditions. We willalso dive into treatment options ranging from topical solutions and supplements to lifestyle adjustments and advanced therapies, helping you navigate the journey to healthier, fuller hair.
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Ep. 40 Closing 2024 with a BANG!
In our final episode of 2024, Optimized Health reflects on this year’s breakthroughs in hormone research and reviews some of the most popular books on the topic. One of Optimize U Chattanooga’s medical providers and former military medic, Justin Edwards, shares his inspiring journey into the world of hormones and wellness. Don’t miss this powerful conclusion to the season.
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Ep. 39 Here we grow again.
Optimize U is growing again. Meet Keisha Holcomb, NP, who will be practicing at Optimize U Cleveland. Keisha tells all about her background and passions for improving the health and wellness for both men and women in the Cleveland community.
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Ep. 38 Don’t go quietly into that midlife ladies.
Join Mandy Livingston and Laura Chastain as they have a discussion with Emily Griffith, owner of Brigade Athletic Club and Shannon Hamaker, somatic practitioner and midlife coach as we explore a new program they have launched based on the research of Dr Stacey Simms. This program focuses on women in midlife to help develop strength, maintain bone density, manage body composition and aids in recovery.
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Ep. 37 Building Strength, Building Health: A conversation with IFBB Pro Matt Davis
Join Mandy Livingston and Josh Porter as we sit down with Matt Davis, IFBB Pro and owner of Chattanooga's premier fitness facility, The Train Station. We explore the Make America Healthy campaign and dive deep into the science of muscle hypertrophy, resistance training, and strategies like progressive overload and time under tension. Discover practical tips for achieving fitness goals and cultivating a healthy lifestyle with realistic expectations. Whether you're a seasoned gym-goer or just starting your journey, this episode is packed with insights to help you transform your approach to health and fitness.
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Ep. 36 Pelvic Health: Getting to the “Core” issues
Join Mandy Livingston and Laura Chastain as they talk with Guest Erin Westner from The Pelvic Method about mastering pelvic floor health.
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Ep. 35 Breaking Bread: The process and health benefits of milling grain into flower.
Join us as we explore the art, science and health benefits of milling organic wheat into flour for the perfect bread. Delve into the journey from field to flour, featuring guests Melissa White and Laura Porter exploring milling techniques and baking tips that highlight the benefits of using organic grains. Whether you’re a home baker or seasoned professional, you’ll discover how to elevate your bread making skills and embrace the joy of milling!
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Ep. 34 Mastering Physical Performance: Project 1's Approach to Youth and Adult Training
In this episode of Optimized Health, we dive into the world of perfomance training with Joe Cradle and Jeff Smith, the dynamic duo behind Project 1. These experts share their innovative approach to training both youth athletes and adults, focusing on the critical elements of dynamic warm-ups, agility training, and compound lifts. Cradle and Smith reveal their strategies for developing proper exercise techniques, injury prevention, and effective recovery methods. Listeners will gain valuable insights into how Project 1's specialized group and one-on-one training programs are designed to optimize performance and foster long-term athletic development for individuals of all ages and skill levels.
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Ep. 33 Start where YOU are!
Fitness is for everyone. Guest Jessica Griffis
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Ep. 32 Deep Dive into Lab Draw.
In this episode we are discussing what labs are being taken and why around a hormone replacement perspective. With special guest Matt Hughes, Owner and PA at Optimize U Nashville.
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Ep: 31 Chill Out and Heat Up: Unlock the Power of Cold Plunge and Sauna Therapy
Dive into the transformative world of wellness as we explore the dynamic duo of Cold Plunge and Sauna therapy in this enlightening episode! Join Josh and Mandy as we uncover the science behind cold plunging and heat therapy, revealing how these ancient practices can enhance your physical and mental well-being!
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Ep. 30 “Seeing Clearly: Dr. Troy White Unveils the Power of Neurolens Technology”
In this eye-opening episode, we sit down with Dr. Troy White, a renowned optometrist, to explore the revolutionary Neurolens technology. Dr. White delves into how Neurolens is transforming eye care by addressing eye misalignment and alleviating symptoms of digital eye strain. Listeners will gain insights into the science behind Neurolens, its unique contoured prism design, and how it differs from traditional prescription lenses. Dr. White also discusses the diagnostic process, potential benefits for patients, and who might be ideal candidates for this innovative solution. Whether you're struggling with headaches, eye fatigue, or neck pain, or simply curious about the latest advancements in optometry, this episode offers a clear vision of the future of eye care.
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Ep # 29 You asked and we answered!
Listen as Josh and Mandy discuss the questions they get most about from both men and women around hormones and treatments.
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Ep # 28 Bodybuilding, Heavy Lifting and Pendulum Squats with special guests Austin and Sam Jenkins.
Interview with Iron HQ gym owners, Austin and Sam Jenkins as they share their story of launching Iron HQ and building a tribe around their brand and vision.
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Ep. # 27 Wives Know Best
Plagued with questions of identity, Jeremy Smith shares his journey of self discovery that leads him to find his biological father and become closer to the main influence of his life. Join in on this inspirational journey that continues to unfold.
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Ep #26 Spiritual Awakening through the eyes of a Physician
Interview with Dr Nate Hartgrove, owner of Hartgrove Medical. Dr Hartgrove gives us a look into his spiritual journey and how he incorporates spiritual health into his practice.
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Ep. #25 Interview with Bryan Johnson owner of Vital Life Medical Care
The journey from Sick Care to Health Care.
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Ep. #24 Nutrition vs. Menopause - Clara Luliano
Clara Luliano, dietitian and Owner of Nutriclarity, helps us be on the winning side by informing us on nutrition for menopausal women.
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Ep. #23 Conversation w/ Brandon Knight
Listen to our interview with Brandon on holistic support for gut health and the power of detoxification.
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Ep. #22 Deep Dive into Hyperbaric Therapy
We saw down with Brandon Jones, Owner of Oxygen Health Spa about how HBOT benefits patients patients with everything from muscle/structural issues to neurological problems.
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Ep. #21 Retrain Your Brain At Any Age
Stacey Breitmann from Pathways Neurofeedback talks about how we can retrain not only our brains, but also our children's brains. Everything from ADD and ADHD to Depression, Anxiety and spectrum disorders.
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Ep. #20 You THOUGHT you knew the benefits of CrossFit
CrossFit and beyond with Emily and Erik Griffith, Owners of CrossFit Brigade. Hosts: Josh Porter & Mandy Livingston
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Ep. #19 Understanding Fertility
We discuss PCOS issues, estrogen dominance and cycle charting with Catherine Needham. Hosts: Josh Porter & Mandy Livingston Guest: Catherine Needham, PharmD of Cycle Balance (catherineneedham.com)
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Ep. #18 Interview w/Joanna Poindexter, Owner of Fitness Lifestyle
Listen as we discuss a variety of fitness topics with local gym owner and registered nurse, Joanna Poindexter.
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Ep. #17 2023: What a year!
A look back at the hot topics and up to date information on Hormone and Therapies
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Ep. #16- Acupuncture Anyone
Understanding acupuncture and chinese medicine with Ariadni Spinali. Hosts: Josh Porter and Mandy Livingston
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Ep. #15 Oral vs. Transdermal Estrogen
Benefits of one over the other. Hosts: Josh Porter & Mandy Livingston
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