The Revenue Growth Architects

We’re back with some hot topics in GTM!This week we discuss something that’s been on everyone’s mind lately: AI token and credit spend. How do you choose the right tool and model for the job? Do you *really* need AI for that deterministic workflow?Then we test Hubspot’s AI SDR Avatar and see how things have changed since the last time we reviewed an AI Avatar. Lastly, we plug a great job opportunity… One right here at CS2!We’ll see you there.This week: 00:00 Intro01:27 How to manage AI token/credit spend in GTM20:48 Testing Hubspot’s AI SDR avatar39:00 CS2’s new job openingHear more from us: Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/

We have another guest this week! Our GTM Engineering Lead, Xander Broeffle joins us for a conversation on various tools and tech and how they are adapting in today's market. First, could Zoominfo be back from the dead with their new GTM.ai? Can agents find this data without ZI or does ZI have an edge? Then, Xander covers some Clay use cases we've been seeing in clients and discusses recent updates. Finally, can Marketo turn the ship around and release actually useful AI features? Let's dive in! This week: 0:00 Intro 5:00 ZoomInfo’s new GTM.AI 21:05 Clay Updates 39:30 Can Marketo Turn the Ship Around? Hear more from us: Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8w Subscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletter Follow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/ Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/

This week, we're lucky to be joined by our Chief Analyst and Architect, Alison Rouse!In the bulk of this episode, Alison walks through how she's used AI for revenue planning for our clients. Together, Charlie, Crissy, and Alison also review 2 social media posts touching on what is *actually* possible with AI v. what the expectations are from leadership.This week: 0:00 Intro0:33 Are CEOs Delusional About AI?15:44 Using AI for Revenue Planning47:43 Vibe Coding a CRM?Hear more from us: Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/

Fresh out of 2 recent events, Charlie and Crissy are excited to share some tangible AI Use Cases.After a quick review of events and the current state of GTM content, Charlie and Crissy discuss how good data is foundational to how AI works. Then they dive into 6 concrete AI use cases: 3 that we've implemented for our clients, and 3 that we've been using in our own internal operations.This week: 00:00 Intro05:37 Does AI Need Good Data?15:31 3 Client AI Use Cases34:51 3 Internal Ops AI Use CasesHear more from us: Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/

We're back at in-person events! This week, Crissy starts by discussing her main takeaways from Winning by Design's Impact Summit. Then, Charlie shares a LinkedIn post that brings up a familiar argument: Where should GTMEs sit on your team? Does it even matter? Lastly, they cover why every tool is trying to own the agent layer of AI, a topic that has been becoming impossible to ignore in the GTM World. This week: 00:00 Intro 00:10 Impact Summit Takeaways 15:05 Where Should GTMEs Sit? 31:00 Everyone Wants to be your Agent Hub Hear more from us: Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8w Subscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletter Follow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/ Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/

This week, Crissy and Charlie discuss some hot topics in AI, starting with a question on everyone's mind: does using AI mean fewer employees, or more?Next, they tackle two debates happening in the GTM space. First up: Do you still need Clay if you have Claude Code? Then they make the case against sending "scored-up" MQLs (except hand-raisers) to sales based on analysis CS2 has done for all of their clients over the years, and what they would do instead. This week: 00:00 Intro: We're back to In-Person Events! 01:52 Can AI Really do More with Less Time? 11:18 Clay v. Claude Code 27:05 Replace Scoring with Signals? Hear more from us: Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8w Subscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletter Follow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/ Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/

Hot take: not every AI use case needs an autonomous agent. This week, Charlie and Crissy are unpacking Salesforce's new "headless" CRM. Then, they walk through CS2's AI Maturity Framework, grounding it in a real-world account research example. Our biggest takeaway? Stop thinking about AI maturity at the company level and go use case by use case. The most complex solution isn't always the right answer. This week: 00:00 Intro 00:43 Salesforce's "Headless" CRM 15:30 AI Maturity Framework & Account Research Example 38:01 How to Decide Which Maturity Level to Use Hear more from us: Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8w Subscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletter Follow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/ Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/

After almost a year off the podcast, we’re back. We just couldn’t hold in all our thoughts on AI in GTM any longer so we are bringing back the podcast under the “Cooking Up GTM” umbrella (Crissy’s weekly newsletter).Expect weekly GTM AI news, candid discussion on what is working (and not working) in GTM right now, walk-throughs of use cases we are deploying for clients, interviews, and a lot more.GTM is changing and we’re on the front lines with clients every day, making sense of it all.Come hang with us.This week:00:00 Why we're back to podcasting10:08 Current State of AI in GTM18:10 Using AI for Data Analysis28:05 Using Job Descriptions for Buying Signal DataHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/

After an incredible run, we’re wrapping up the Revenue Growth Architects Podcast.Along the way, we’ve had meaningful conversations, explored big ideas, and hopefully helped you feel a little more confident navigating the complex world of marketing ops, RevOps, and GTM strategy.Thank you to every listener who tuned in, shared an episode, or sent us feedback. Your support has meant the world.We’re stepping back from the podcast to focus our energy on share content on Linkedin and Youtube. So, while the mic might be off for now, this isn’t goodbye forever. Keep following along:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

We're taking a little break this summer while Charlie and Crissy are out recharging on vacation, but that doesn't mean the content stops!While we plan some more episodes for when they return, we’re revisiting some of our favorite podcast moments from the past. Whether you're new here or a longtime listener, it’s a great time to catch up, reflect, and maybe even hear something you missed the first time around!Ops Projects You Need to Complete Before Using AIHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

We're taking a little break this summer while Charlie and Crissy are out recharging on vacation, but that doesn't mean the content stops!While we plan some more episodes for when they return, we’re revisiting some of our favorite podcast moments from the past. Whether you're new here or a longtime listener, it’s a great time to catch up, reflect, and maybe even hear something you missed the first time around!Q&A: Should you be tracking sales touchpoints in multi-touch attribution?Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

We're taking a little break this summer while Charlie and Crissy are out recharging on vacation, but that doesn't mean the content stops!While we plan some more episodes for when they return, we’re revisiting some of our favorite podcast moments from the past. Whether you're new here or a longtime listener, it’s a great time to catch up, reflect, and maybe even hear something you missed the first time around!GTM or GTFO: 5 "Best" ABM Stats?Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

We're taking a little break this summer while Charlie and Crissy are out recharging on vacation, but that doesn't mean the content stops!While we plan some more episodes for when they return, we’re revisiting some of our favorite podcast moments from the past. Whether you're new here or a longtime listener, it’s a great time to catch up, reflect, and maybe even hear something you missed the first time around!Maturity Model for Reporting: Demystified reportingHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

We're taking a little break this summer while Charlie and Crissy are out recharging on vacation, but that doesn't mean the content stops!While we plan some more episodes for when they return, we’re revisiting some of our favorite podcast moments from the past. Whether you're new here or a longtime listener, it’s a great time to catch up, reflect, and maybe even hear something you missed the first time around!Is Campaign ROI Worth It? How to get campaign-level ROI reportingHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

We're taking a little break this summer while Charlie and Crissy are out recharging on vacation, but that doesn't mean the content stops!While we plan some more episodes for when they return, we’re revisiting some of our favorite podcast moments from the past. Whether you're new here or a longtime listener, it’s a great time to catch up, reflect, and maybe even hear something you missed the first time around!Q&A: When is data quality good enough?Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

We're taking a little break this summer while Charlie and Crissy are out recharging on vacation, but that doesn't mean the content stops!While we plan some more episodes for when they return, we’re revisiting some of our favorite podcast moments from the past. Whether you're new here or a longtime listener, it’s a great time to catch up, reflect, and maybe even hear something you missed the first time around!How to Handle Conversion Rate Data the Right WayHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

We're taking a little break this summer while Charlie and Crissy are out recharging on vacation, but that doesn't mean the content stops!While we plan some more episodes for when they return, we’re revisiting some of our favorite podcast moments from the past. Whether you're new here or a longtime listener, it’s a great time to catch up, reflect, and maybe even hear something you missed the first time around!5 Data Issues That Will Confuse AIHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

We're taking a little break this summer while Charlie and Crissy are out recharging on vacation, but that doesn't mean the content stops!While we plan some more episodes for when they return, we’re revisiting some of our favorite podcast moments from the past. Whether you're new here or a longtime listener, it’s a great time to catch up, reflect, and maybe even hear something you missed the first time around!We got a AI SDR to call us... But is it any good? Listen to our reaction and let us know what you think!Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Intro01:09 GTMOps Propaganda We Aren't Falling ForHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Is the Hubspot ChatGPT Integration Any Good?13:56 Are Finance Teams Too Deterministic?Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Intro00:17 Ops Projects You Need to Complete Before Using AI15: 25 How to Work Efficiently with Sales Ops & IT27:45 CS2's Onboarding AssessmentHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

On today's episode Charlie and Crissy are discussing how they have been seeing an uptick in companies wanting to take on more GTM Ops projects and invest in their GTM Ops foundation. Then they discuss how many stakeholders request "simple" projects from the GTM ops team or from consultants and why those simple projects really aren't simple. Atleast, for most organizations.

00:00 5 Data Issues That Will Confuse AI21:00 Should We Use the Title GTM Engineer?32:21 How to Handle Conversion Rate Data the Right WayHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Intro3:55 Fitness test for GTMOps30:13 Should you attend in-person conferences?37:33 Tools for AI data NormalizationHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Intro01:47 Maturity Model for Reporting30:57 Testing Chatgpt Operator47:34 When to Rip & Replace Your Ops Processes?Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Intro00:15 Where do GTM Ops Projects Go Wrong? How to identify issues and suggestions for reducing complexity24:30 GTM or GTFO: 5 "Best" ABM Stats?38:27 Is Campaign ROI Worth It? How to get campaign-level ROI reportingHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Introduction00:19 Deep Dive on Clay: What you need to know and a realistic approach to using this tool in your org27:32 GTM or GTFO: Analyzing marketing data using Deepseek 40:05 Q&A: Should you be tracking sales touchpoints in multi-touch attribution?Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Introduction00:37 Our Predictions for GTMOps in 202526:33 GTM or GTFO: Is AI email personalization worth it? 37:01 Q&A: When is data quality good enough?Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

In this episode, we dive into some nitty-gritty GTM data/reporting challenges! From why BI/Warehouse infrastructure might be failing your reporting needs (and possibly making things worse) to exploring the buzz around incrementality reporting for B2B. Plus, your burning questions on custom object funnel tracking and our Salesforce package are answered.00:00 Introduction01:12 How a BI/Warehouse setup often doesn't solve your GTM data/reporting issues (and in fact can make them worse)19:30 GTM or GTFO: Incrementality reporting. What is it? Is it effective? Should you do it for B2B?39:00 Answering audience questions about our custom object funnel tracking methodology and Salesforce packageHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

Charlie and Crissy run through a live demo of our custom object funnel tracking method in Salesforce, chat to an AI SDR live on the podcast, and discuss when you should and shouldn't buy an ABM platform. 00:00 Intro02:27 Live Demo of Our Funnel Object Tracking: we walk through a screen share of our custom object funnel/lifecycle/pipeline method and show a few use cases (Here is the link if you want to watch the demo on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUuOBmysM4U)25:14 Live Call from an AI SDR: we get a AI SDR to call us, any good? Listen and see for yourself36:29 When to Buy an ABM Tool: we explore a Linkedin comment question on when to buy a ABM toolHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/

00:00 Intro00:58 AI is Taking SDR Jobs, we're seeing it across clients. Is it good/bad and what are the implications? 17:52 Is "Founder Brand" For Everyone? Should all CEOs be public personas? 27:11 Nurtures are dead (or are they?) and what is the current state of nurturing in 2024/25?

00:00 Introduction01:01 Is Attribution data divisive? Is it the data's fault or is it a people problem? 21:26 GTM or GTFO: reacting to a video on measurement 31:18 What term should we use: funnel, lifecycle, pipeline or something else?Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Introduction01:02 GTM/Marketing/Rev Ops is Escalating in Complexity18:12 Is Linkedin Beef a good GTM Strategy?31:50 When in the sales process should you create an Opportunity?Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Intro01:16 Funnel Attribution vs. Multi-touch Attribution11:32 How to avoid the credit game drama between marketing and sales17:59 The different biases 20:49 The data structure needed for each type30:34 Which type to start with 34:33 Can you use multi-touch attribution data for funnel metrics reporting?Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

Check out Charlie's latest chat with the crew from the RevOps Champions podcast. They talk about:- What is GTM Ops - The unfulfilled promise of RevOps - Data, reporting, and attribution - And lots more! Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube!Subscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

Struggling to get a complete view of your different GTM motions and their performance? You can report on marketing MQLs ok, but not on Outbound, Partner, Account-Based, or Customer Expansion? Crissy breaks down unifying your GTM data and shows a couple examples. Want to see what she is sharing? Check out the YouTube video here: https://youtu.be/Nlm6qL7dwQY Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

00:00 Intro01:35 The biggest UTM mistakes companies make13:59 What we have learned deploying 15 Lifecycle/funnel custom objects into complex B2B SaaS Salesforce environments 30:38 How to level up how you communicate and interact with leadership if you're in GTM OpsHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

Crissy sat down with Finn on The Founder-Led Marketing Show and had a wide-ranging conversation on:- How to Build a GTM Ops Team - How to Track a Buyer Funnel- How to Build Unified Reporting- And lots more! Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

If you're leading any of the GTM teams (marketing, sales, customer success) this is for you. Or if you're working in these teams (or in an ops team) and need to get leadership onboard with focusing on GTM ops send this video to them today. 00:00 Intro00:06 Top 3 CMO Struggles00:21 Top 3 CRO Struggles00:30 The pains and GTM Ops focus 01:20 1st reason01:59 2nd reason02:14 3rd reason02:46 4th reason03:21 5th reasonHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

Account-Based Marketing has been the rage for several years now. And over and over again we see leadership pushing the teams to operationalize an Account Funnel while underinvesting in the Person Funnel.This isn't the way. For 3 reasons. And Crissy breaks down why.00:00 Intro00:27 First Reason01:35 Second Reason02:48 Third ReasonHear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

We're back with Charlie, Crissy, and Xander discussing some of the biggest questions in B2B SaaS GTM. 00:00 Intro00:27 Discussion on the newest outbound tools (e.g. Clay) 18:54 What people get wrong with ABM and how we define ABM vs. Account-Based Operations 37:49 Our new Go-To-Market Operations Framework Hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

Charlie joins the RevOps Lab podcast to talk about tracking funnel metrics across the entire marketing and sales funnel.What you’ll learn in this episode:- How a CRM can help you with tracking and if it is the only source of truth- Which potholes to avoid- How the reporting is done with a custom objecthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/RevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletter Janis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzer/ Philipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszech/ Weflow: https://www.getweflow.com/

Stop the chaos! Why is it that every marketing automation platform we audit, whether it's Marketo, Hubspot, or Pardot, has every automation firing at once? Why is it that the order of operations is never factored in, so there are sync issues, routing issues, and super slow speed to lead? Well, it's because few people realize that you need to architect Marketo, Hubspot, or Pardot in a particular way. Xander will explain all in this episode.If you want to hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-x5u0G03LWmU0Ds_4zR8wSubscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

Every B2B company has a funnel tracking process. And quite often, that process is seriously limited or broken.Leads get lost, data is inaccurate, and businesses struggle to produce insights and accurate reporting.I've seen this first hand, and so has this week's guest - Charlie Saunders. We've both spent years as consultants fixing broken funnels.In this episode, we talk about the many reasons funnel tracking goes wrong and dive deep into the architecture of the scalable solution Charlie's team has developed.Check out more episodes of Justin's podcast here: https://revops.fm/If you want to hear more from us:Subscribe to us on Youtube!Subscribe to our newsletter here: https://www.cs2marketing.com/revenue-growth-architects#subscribe-to-newsletterFollow Crissy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crveteresaunders/Follow Charlie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliesaunders/Follow Xanderon LinkedIn: lhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/xanderbroeffle/

Crissy joined the Collective Wisdom podcast by Demand Collective to discuss how marketers should architect their revenue process and marketing campaigns.

Crissy joins the Attribution Time podcast to share her perspective on all things attribution.

Crissy joined the Humans of Martech Podcast in a wide-ranging discussion. The discussion explored the evolution from tactical management to strategic leadership, and the adaptation to changing marketing strategies. Also, the significance of specialized platforms in marketing automation, the critical role of the sales funnel in revenue growth, the shift in email marketing towards ‘inbox influence’, and revitalizing outbound marketing strategies. This episode is a concise yet profound guide, offering actionable insights for martech professionals to navigate their careers and strategies effectively.

Charlie and Crissy joined Chris Walker on the Revenue Vitals podcast to talk through the intricaies of funnel/pipeline architecture vs. MT attribution. The conversation spotlights the foundational importance of understanding how funnel tracking sets the stage for a company's go-to-market success, transcending mere marketing analytics.The discussion provides a nuanced exploration into the stark differences between funnel tracking and multitouch attribution. While both concepts play vital roles within a company's data-driven decision-making processes, they each serve distinct purposes.Chris, Charlie, and Crissy dissect common missteps companies face, emphasizing the need for a strong, actionable understanding of buyer progression and sales optimization.

Crissy joined the Operations With Sean Lane podcast to share her thoughts on consulting vs. in-house for ops professionals. They discuss how consultants have many more data points and companies they’re exposed to so their ability to find patterns and create frameworks is accelerated at an unfairly high rate. And she shares the frameworks she has used consulting over 100 high growth B2B tech companies.

What do you do after recording more than 200 episodes of a podcast?Take a break!In all seriousness, we have decided to take a quick hiatus from delivering new episodes weekly for a bit while we focus on a fresh new strategy for our content and what we add to this podcast channel.It’s been a pleasure to deliver valuable insights and actions on go-to-market operations and strategy to you every week (since 2019!). But right now we just feel like it might be time to shake it up a bit.In the meantime, we will be sharing past recordings we have done for other podcasts that we thought you would love.Stay tuned for what is next from us and we’d love for you to stay subscribed here to make sure you don’t miss future updates. And we also ask that you follow us on YouTube for any new video content we put out in the meantime.And if you are a fan and want to send us a special note and inquire on what is next - email us at [email protected].