inside OUT: Navigating the Mental, Emotional & Spiritual with Jojo

We do not talk enough about friendship breakups. Romantic breakups get the songs, the books, the girls' night support system. Friendship loss gets a shrug and a "people grow apart."In this solo episode, Jojo sits with what it actually means to lose a close friend, not to conflict, not to a fight, but to time, distance, and evolution. After moving away from a decade in New York and starting over in a brand new city, she is facing the hardest part of adult friendship: building connection from the ground up while grieving the people who used to feel permanent.Inside this episode:Why making friends as an adult feels so much harder than it used to The difference between a friend for a reason, a season, and a lifetime How to know when a friendship has become misaligned with your season of life Why we take friendship loss personally, even when it was never really about us Processing a friendship breakup when there was no closure What it means to ask yourself not just who you want to find, but who you want to be as a friendThis is a mental, emotional, and spiritual conversation about connection, grief, and growth. If you have ever quietly wondered whether a friendship still fits your life, this one is for you.Follow along at @_insideout.podcast and subscribe to the Substack for more reflections between episodes.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

"You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with." So who are yours?This week on Inside OUT, Jojo brings back one of the very first episodes, Friendship: Toxic or Transformative, and it hits different now that the friendship at the center of it no longer exists in her life.We get honest about the friendships that quietly shape us. The ones we outgrow. The ones that end with no explanation. And the ones worth watering for fifteen years and counting. Jojo opens up about losing a childhood best friend overnight, walking away from people she loved, and being on the receiving end of someone choosing to walk away from her.If you have a friendship right now that feels more draining than nourishing, or one you keep quietly wondering about, this one is for you.Inside this episode:Why one rotting raspberry can spoil the whole box (and what that means for your circle)The difference between a friend you have fun with and a friend who sits in the muck with youHow expectations quietly kill the relationships we care about mostThe one conversation that saved a friendship instead of ending itHow to take honest inventory of your five people without pointing fingersThis is your invitation to get real about who you let close. Press play.Let's get MESy.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Before you click away because you think tarot is too "out there," stay with me.In this episode of Inside OUT, Jojo sits down with Dina Berrin, an author, certified life coach, and intuitive guide who treats tarot as a language and a map of the human experience, not a party trick or a crystal ball. If you have never touched a deck in your life, this is your grounded, no judgment way in.Dina breaks down what tarot actually is: a deck of 78 cards split into the minor arcana and the major arcana, full of symbolism that reflects the universal human story of love, fear, growth, endings, and new beginnings. You will learn how to read the colors and images on a card, how to look for patterns in a spread, and how tarot quietly moves you from asking "is he going to call me back" to asking "what am I learning" and "what am I avoiding."Then Jojo puts Dina on the spot for a live reading, and what comes up is so specific it is a little scary. They get into the 2026 year card, personal year cards, numerology, and the one question underneath every question people ever bring to the deck: am I going to be okay?If you are a skeptic, an overthinker, or someone who needs it to make logical sense before you let it in, this one is for you.Let's Get MESy. Dina's book The Way Within: Igniting Your Intuition with Sacred Tools (on Amazon here)Listener offer: 15% off a One Hour Personal Reading with Dina, regularly $270. The session focuses on your birth cards and personal numerology. Use code INSIDEOUT15 when booking. Valid for first time clients who book within 30 days of this episode airing. You can also ask Dina about her 90 minute "Understanding You" deep dive. Book here: https://dinaberrin.com/contact/Find Dina Website: https://dinaberrin.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dinaberrin or @dinaberrinYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dinaberrin5975 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-perlmutter-berrin-cpcc-pcc-5b812022 Divination Charm Set: https://dinaberrin.com/product/magical-divination-charm-set/Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Everyone's nervous system is jacked. We're vibrating at high levels, stuck in the rat race, and calling a shopping spree "self-care." On this episode of Inside OUT, Jojo sits down with married therapist + coach duo Kiana and Andrew of Soul Journey Project to break down what real wellness looks like, the kind that actually resets your nervous system instead of just looking good on TikTok. We walk through their 7 Keys to Wellness, one by one, with practical, no-cost ways to bring each one into a busy life. Then we get into co-regulation: what actually happens when two dysregulated people try to communicate, and the difference between a relationship and a true partnership. This one's all about going internal for the external, not the other way around.Connect with Kiana & Andrew:Website + newsletter: souljourneyproject.comTheir journal, Take the StepInstagram & Facebook:  @SoulJourneyProjectIf this resonated, take a deep breath, think of one person who needs to hear it, and send it to them.Let's get MESy!Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

You've done the therapy. Read the books. Cried it out at a retreat. So why does that critical voice in your head keep winning?This week, trauma therapist Jessica Fern (bestselling author of Polysecure) and David Cooley (creator of Restorative Relationship Conversations) join me to expose the Shame Triangle: the hidden pattern keeping you stuck in self criticism, shame, and escape. And here's the wild part. They've been married, divorced, and now coparent and write books together. They don't just teach this. They've survived it.Once you hear this, you'll see the triangle everywhere. In yourself. In the people you love. In the "personality traits" that were never really you.Press play and let's get MESy.Connect with Jessica & David:The Azurite Way: theazuriteway.comBook: Transforming the Shame TriangleJessicaDavidAsk Jess and Dave Show, submit questions: [email protected] them live at Esalen (Big Sur, CA) this October for the Transforming the Shame Triangle retreatThank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

We talk a lot about grieving people we lose  but what about grieving the versions of ourselves that didn't make it? The dream that faded, the relationship that revealed you weren't showing up as yourself, the life you thought you were building that quietly fell apart?In this episode, I sit down with Lionel Moses, Desert Storm veteran, twice divorced, business builder, and author of The Marriage Seed  and we get into the kind of grief nobody puts on the checklist. The grief of lost time. The grief of the people pleaser you became. The grief of the authentic version of you that was locked up while you performed for everyone else.This one is going to land differently. We talk about:Why grief is a trajectory, not a state and where it's actually sending youHow to grieve time instead of eventsWhat purposeful singleness really means (and why it's not just about being single)Why unaddressed grief is cancerous  and what happens when you finally face itThe funeral you need to have for the version of you that didn't make itIf you've ever felt like the life you're living doesn't match the one you imagined this episode is for you.🔗 Find Lionel at lionelmoses.com or themarraigeseed.com or Instagram Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

What if the person you're waiting for is waiting for you to become ready? In this solo episode, Jojo unpacks a conversation with a girlfriend about meeting "the one"  and why most of us are sabotaging the real thing by settling for convenient. We're getting MESy about intuition vs. logic, the universe's tests, why love defies logic, and what it actually means to live in the vibration of what you're calling in. If you've ever had an illogical gut feeling about someone and tried to talk yourself out of it,  this one's for you.Topics: dating, manifestation, intuition, soulmates, energetic alignment, trusting the universe, protecting new love.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Have you ever scrolled through Instagram and felt that gut punch? Someone's getting married. Someone's pregnant. Someone just bought a house. Someone got promoted again. And suddenly there's this voice whispering, what's wrong with me, why am I not there yet?In this solo episode of Inside OUT, Jojo gets MESy with the lie of "being behind." Inspired by a train metaphor she came across on Instagram, she unpacks why we measure our insides against everyone else's outsides, why comparison is actually grief in disguise, and how the detours you've called delays were actually your teachers all along.We're navigating this mentally (whose timeline are you even living by?), emotionally (what's underneath that shame spiral?), and spiritually (you were never on their route to begin with). Jojo shares her own recent cross-country move from New York, the jealousy that crept in when someone else's life seemed to be unfolding faster, and the powerful reframe that brought her back to her own path.If you've been feeling late, lost, or like life is moving for everyone but you, this episode is a love letter to your nervous system. Your train is moving. Even slowly. Even after the stops. You are not late. You are on your own route.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Jojo is back after an unplanned month away and she is not coming back the same. In this episode she gets honest about what it actually feels like to be in the middle of a major life transition, not at the start, not on the other side, but right in the thick of it.If you have ever done the big thing, made the bold move, chosen yourself, and then wondered why it still feels hard, this episode is for you.Come get MESy!Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Protecting your peace is everywhere right now and yes there is something real in it. But what if your peace has quietly become a wall? In this solo episode Jojo unpacks the difference between protecting your peace as a foundation versus using it as a fortress to keep everyone out. She gets into why your nervous system might be wired to read chaos as chemistry and stability as boring, what it actually means to regulate before you reintegrate, and why safe is not the same as healed. If you have been wondering why you keep attracting the same dynamic, why nothing ever gets deeper, or whether your boundaries are actually just fear dressed up in self help language this one is for you. This episode pairs with last week's When the Other Shoe Doesn't Drop so go back and listen if you haven't yet.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

You did the work. You healed the things. And somehow life is actually… good. So why does that feel like the scariest part? This episode is for anyone who's finally in a peaceful season... and can't stop waiting for it to fall apart.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

What if the reason you're stuck isn't a you problem but a we problem? In this episode, Jojo sits down with relational leadership mentor and initiation guide Mike Elliott to unpack why so many of us are walking around disconnected in adult bodies still run by an adaptive child. Mike breaks down the science of secure attachment, what it actually means to function from your wise adult brain, and why healing in isolation might be the very thing keeping you from the life and love you want. They get into the three phases of relational consciousness, the reparenting framework Mike uses with his clients, and why vulnerability is not your weakness but your greatest power. This one will rewire the way you think about relationships, growth, and what it means to actually show up for your own life.Connect with Mike: Website: www.itsmikeelliott.com Sacred We Community: www.sacredrelating.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/mikeelliott.relating Together PodcastFree Masculine Feminine Polarity Cheat SheetThank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Spring is a season of change, and change can be completely overwhelming. This week Jojo opens up about her own spiral as she prepares for a major life move, and introduces the Overwhelm Paradigm, a mindset shift that helps you zoom back into the present, tackle things step by step, and trust that the seeds you are planting now are already growing. Short, grounding, and straight to the MES of it.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this solo episode, Jojo breaks down the 7 Ms framework as a personal audit for every area of your life. From how you start your morning to how you talk about money, this episode is a mirror, not a checklist. Jojo walks through each M with honesty, humor, and real life examples to help you get conscious of where you are thriving and where you are quietly leaking energy. This one is for anyone who has been on autopilot and is ready to take their life back with intention rather than perfection.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

What if everything you've been told about love, intimacy, and compatibility is actually working against you? In this episode of Inside Out, Jojo sits down with relationship coach and RLT trained therapist Monica Tanner, host of the Secrets of Happily Ever After podcast and author of the bestselling book Bad Marriage Advice, to bust the biggest myths around relationships, intimacy, and passion.They dig into why differences between partners create passion (not problems), what intimacy actually means (hint: it's not just sex), how to get out of roommate territory using the 3% rule, and why "happy wife, happy life" might be doing more damage than you think. Whether you're single, dating, or decades into a marriage, this conversation will shift the way you see love and yourself.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

What if everything you believe about finding "the one" is actually setting you up to fail?In this episode of Inside OUT, Jojo sits down with Dr. Lee Baucom, creator of the Save the Marriage System, podcast host, and author with over two decades of experience helping couples navigate the hardest seasons of their relationships. And yes they go way beyond saving marriages.Whether you're single and dating intentionally, newly committed, or years deep into a relationship, this conversation is going to shake something loose. Lee and Jojo get into the biggest lies people tell themselves when choosing a partner, why "the one" mentality actually increases your chances of divorce, the subtle red flags we rationalize away (and why we do it), and what real compatibility actually looks like; hint: it has nothing to do with shared interests.They also talk about the "pause button"... the silent relationship killer nobody warns you about, the three levels of connection every relationship needs, whether you can come back from infidelity, and how to know when it's actually time to walk away.This one hits different. Press play.🔗 Find Dr. Lee Baucom📱 Un-Pause Your Marriage App📖 Substack: The Connection Compass 🎙️ Save the Marriage PodcastThank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

You did the work. You made the decision. So why haven't you moved yet? In this episode, Jojo gets real about the in-between space, the uncomfortable gap between deciding and doing and ties it to one of the most cosmically significant days in 60 years. Chinese New Year, a solar eclipse, a new moon, and the opening of an 18 month eclipse portal all collide on the same day. We break down what the Year of the Fire Horse means, how the North and South Nodes are literally written for this moment, and why the universe is done letting you stay stuck. Plus Jojo shares her own next step in real time. This one is personal. Let's get MESy.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Time for a personal audit. What patterns, places, and versions of yourself need to change? A vulnerable conversation about real transformation and the cost of staying stuck.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Originally released November 2024 | 13 minutesSometimes you need to hear something at exactly the right time. And if you're reading this right now? This is that time.I'm bringing back one of our most powerful episodes because the patterns we fall into don't take breaks. Whether it's the same relationship dynamics, the same self-sabotage, the same excuses,  if you're tired of the loop, this episode is your starting point.In this episode, we explore:Why wanting change isn't enough (and what actually IS)How to recognize when you're stuck in a repetitive cycleThe difference between being reactive vs. proactive in your own lifeSetting boundaries that actually stickTurning challenges into opportunities for real growthThis isn't about perfection. It's about awareness. It's about making ONE different choice. Let's Get MESy with what it really takes to break free.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Jojo gets real in this episode of Inside OUT, sharing a raw, real-time experience with projection: one of the four relationship ruiners. After being called out minutes after recording, she connects the dots back to her very first episode, Roots Before Romance, revealing how projection, blame, reliance, and expectation all stem from skipping the inner work. Tune in for powerful insights on emotional awareness, healthy love, and building real connection from the inside out.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

This week Jojo gets MESy with the 4 relationship ruiners you don't see coming. Learn how these patterns sabotage your connections and how to break the cycles through radical ownership and inner work. Stop destroying relationships and start building them.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Tired of over-explaining and proving yourself? In this episode, Jojo explores how to stop performing and start living in your truth: mentally, emotionally & spiritually.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this episode of The Inside OUT Podcast, Jojo unpacks what joy really means and why we've been looking for it in all the wrong places. It's not about the big wins, the vacations, or the fireworks. Joy lives in the small, quiet moments we often overlook. Jojo invites you to lower the bar for joy, embrace childlike playfulness, and stop outsourcing your happiness to others. She challenges fear-based thinking with one powerful reframe: What if it all goes right?This episode is your reminder that joy is a birthright, and it's already within you.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Are you giving presents or offering presence this holiday season?In this episode of Inside OUT, Jojo dives into the true meaning of the holidays, and it’s not found under the tree. She explores the difference between gifting things and giving your full presence, and how choosing mindfulness, intention, and self-awareness can be the most powerful gift of all.This conversation blends mental health, emotional well-being, and spiritual growth, with practical tools to help you slow down, reconnect, and show up, especially during the busiest time of year.✨ You’ll learn:Why presence > presents when it comes to relationships & healingHow to handle holiday stress, family triggers, and emotional overloadHow to ground yourself in the now through simple mindfulness practicesJojo’s signature MES prompts (mental, emotional, spiritual) for presenceA new way to navigate the holidays from the inside outWhether you're feeling scattered or seeking meaning, this episode will help you unwrap the real gift of being here now.Happy Holidays! Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In Episode 54 of the Inside OUT podcast, Jojo is joined by transformational guide Nathan Wakeford to explore identity optimization: how your inner narrative shapes your reality. They dive into the power of somatic healing, family constellation therapy, and the role of energetic alignment in creating a fulfilling life. Nathan explains how to manifest from a place of non-attached conviction, and why gratitude, presence, and nervous system regulation are key to lasting transformation. This conversation offers practical tools and deep insights for anyone ready to shift their identity, rewire patterns, and align mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.Connect with Nate on LinkedInThank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this powerful episode of Inside OUT, Jojo sits down with somatic practitioner and transformational coach Jakob Gricar to unpack the truth about trauma, how it forms, and how it lives in the body long after an experience ends. Jakob breaks down why trauma isn’t just what happened to you — it’s the imprint left in your nervous system, and how your triggers reveal what still needs healing.Together, Jojo and Jakob explore somatic healing, emotional repression, addiction as avoidance, the limitations of talk therapy, and how to finally complete old patterns stored in the body. This honest, eye‑opening conversation dives into intimacy, vulnerability, relationship patterns, and the power of nervous system regulation.If you’re ready to understand your trauma, stop repeating cycles, and step into real inner transformation, this episode is for you.Connect with Jakob on instagram @jakobgricarPrivate Podcast here  and websiteThank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this solo holiday episode, Jojo dives into the chaotic collision of gratitude and desire and why you might feel mentally, emotionally, and spiritually off during a season that’s supposed to be all about appreciation. From social comparison and family pressure to spiritual disconnect and the guilt of wanting more, Jojo breaks it all down in classic Inside Out fashion.If you’ve ever felt torn between being grateful for what you have and still craving growth, change, or more, this one’s for you. This is your permission slip to hold both appreciation and ambition without guilt. Because gratitude doesn’t mean settling.Let’s get MESy AF, together.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this week’s powerful episode of Inside OUT, Jojo is joined by leadership coach, author, and international speaker Bill Goodwin. Bill opens up about his near death experience, the afterlife encounter that changed everything, and how it led him to live with deep purpose. Together, they unpack his book Priority Living and explore the seven pillars to a fulfilling life: Purpose, Growth, Impact, Rhythm, Explore, Connect, and Give.From navigating burnout to setting better boundaries, this conversation is filled with spiritual wisdom, actionable mindset shifts, and deeply personal stories. Whether you’re searching for direction, stuck in “busy mode,” or simply want to be more intentional in how you live and love, this is a must listen.We get MESy: mentally, emotionally, and spiritually and discover how to live from the inside out.🎧 Episode Highlights• Why identity starts with purpose• The power of rhythm and the dangers of burnout• How to set priorities with intention• Why generosity is the key to living abundantly• What to do when your calendar is full but your soul is empty📚 Get Bill’s book Priority Living: https://prioritylivingbook.com🏢 Learn more about Priority Living Consulting Group: https://www.prioritylivingcg.com 📲 Connect with Bill: @coachbillspeaks or Linktree 📰 Subscribe to the Substack: HERE Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Dive deep into the emotional dance between men and women with Jojo and David Goldstein as they unpack communication gaps, vulnerability, dating culture, and why men really pull away. A real, raw convo you won’t want to miss.📰 Subscribe to the Substack: HERE Connect with David HERE Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Happy Birthday, Inside OUT! In this special anniversary episode, Jojo celebrates one year of getting MESy: mentally, emotionally, and spiritually, with YOU.She reflects on the thought patterns she's outgrown, the emotional boundaries she's built, and the spiritual depth she's stepped into. This is more than a birthday,  it’s a celebration of internal transformation, realignment, and the power of choosing yourself.Tune in for honest self-reflection prompts, alignment insights, and a big thank you to the Inside OUT community. Here’s to year two, deeper, messier, and more aligned than ever.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Are you falling in love, or slowly disappearing into someone else? In this honest and introspective episode of Inside OUT, Jojo breaks down the codependency trap and how it can show up as love, connection, and even intimacy... until it isn't.From losing your Friday night plans to giving up your favorite jeans because someone didn’t like them, Jojo shares personal stories and real talk about the slippery slope of emotional outsourcing. You'll hear how codependency can erode your identity and how to shift toward love that leaves room for your individuality.In this episode:The signs of codependent behavior most people missHow love rooted in fear leads to self-abandonmentThe difference between being a leaf in a hurricane vs. a rooted treeHow to hold your own energy, emotions, and identity in a relationshipThis is a call back to yourself, a reminder that love should never require you to go missing.Perfect for: Anyone healing from toxic or overly enmeshed relationships, learning how to stay grounded in love, or redefining what healthy connection looks like.🎧 Subscribe to stay grounded. Share to set someone free. Substack: here Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Are you performing your life instead of living it?This week, Jojo breaks down the deep and subtle ways we abandon our real selves in favor of the polished, perfect version we think the world wants. Inspired by Blake Shelton’s “Who Are You When I’m Not Looking,” this episode challenges you to ask: Who am I when no one’s watching? And am I okay being that person when the whole world is? Through the Mental, Emotional, and Spiritual (MESy) lens, Jojo unpacks:The trap of external validation and curated identitiesHow performance mode disconnects us from aligned people, paths, and purposeWhy suppressing our truth leads to emotional exhaustion — or worseAnd how getting messy with your real self might be the path to peaceYou’ll leave this episode with clarity, questions, and a gentle push back toward your truth. ALSO Jojo’s stepping away from Instagram. Hear why she’s moving to Substack and how you can stay in community in a more meaningful way.🔗 Song 🔗Substack 🔗 Follow: @_insideout.podcastThank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Ever feel like you're stuck in the same damn movie, no matter how much journaling or self-help you do? Same. In this episode of Inside Out, Jojo sits down with Dr. Lisa Zaretsky of Zaretsky Wellness to unpack how subconscious beliefs shape our reality and how rapid transformational therapy (RTT) can help rewire the patterns that keep us small. We talk neuroplasticity, spiritual reconnection, and what it really takes to come home to yourself.Find Dr. Lisa on Instagram, Linkedin and Facebook. Or her website www.zaretsky-wellness.comThank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this powerful and vulnerable episode of Inside Out, Jojo is joined by holistic wealth coach Morgan Blackman to unpack the mental, emotional, and spiritual layers of money. From childhood money stories and lifestyle creep to scarcity mindset and financial empowerment, this conversation dives deep into how we relate to money and how to change our narrative around it. Learn about energetics, investing as a beginner, building financial confidence, practicing gratitude, and how collective wealth can be a force for good. If you're ready to stop surviving and start thriving, this is the episode to help you align your mindset and money.Connect with Morgan on her website, Youtube or sign up for her webinar. Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

This week, we're diving deep into something that’s been showing up in my conversations, my energy, and honestly, my entire life lately — proximity. I call it the Proximity Principle (or Theory... still workshopping the name lol), but it’s all about how where you are and what you're doing determines who you meet, what unfolds, and how aligned your life actually feels.We’re talking about stepping out of other people’s paths and finally walking your own. About stopping the shapeshifting, trusting the inner pull, and letting yourself belong where you’re meant to be: mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. From romantic relationships to career shifts to the circles you run in, proximity is everything.If you’ve been feeling stuck, misaligned, or like you're forcing things that just aren’t clicking... this one’s for you.Let’s get MESy and magnetic, together!Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Feeling off lately? You’re not alone. In this quick-hit episode, Jojo guides us through the recent eclipse portal, the energetic new year, and what it means to shift mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. From karmic redirections to spiritual rebirth, it’s time to reflect, release, and reset. Because the only constant is change. Take a walk, take a breath—and let’s get MESy.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Jojo explores what we uncover in silence, why we fear stillness, and how quieting the noise can lead to clarity, alignment, and inner peace.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this episode of the Inside OUT podcast, Jojo shares her personal journey with Kabbalah—her lifelong spiritual foundation that became a chosen practice during pivotal turning points in her life. From growing up immersed in its wisdom, to leaning on its teachings through heartbreak and transformation, JoJo explains how Kabbalah serves as a spiritual blueprint for the soul: a toolkit for navigating chaos, shifting from victimhood to ownership, and aligning with your highest purpose.She clears up common misconceptions about Kabbalah, showing how it is not a religion but a grounded, universal system for anyone seeking deeper meaning—whether you come from faith, no faith, or anywhere in between. Jojo also highlights the paradox of giving and receiving, the ongoing work of self-evolution, and how Kabbalah continues to shape her mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.If you’ve been curious about spirituality beyond dogma, are moving through a period of chaos, or simply want to understand Jojo on a deeper level, this episode is a must-listen.🔑 What You’ll Learn:The difference between Kabbalah and religion—and why it’s for everyoneHow Kabbalah has impacted Jojo’s life through challenge and changeThe practical ways its teachings serve as a spiritual toolkit for daily lifeWhy growth is an ongoing process of rewiring, recalibrating, and realigningHow Kabbalah helps you connect to purpose, presence, and your soul’s journey✨ Resources Mentioned:Kabbalah.com – Find centers, online classes, and resourcesThe Power of Kabbalah (Book)Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this week’s episode, Jojo shares her journey of rewiring her mind and soul by doing the exact opposite of what comes naturally. From stopping overthinking mid-loop to resisting the urge to reach out or react, she dives into the power of choosing differently — even when it feels nearly impossible. Get ready to reflect on your own patterns, embrace discomfort, and explore how doing the opposite of what you've always done might just be your path to peace.We get one life. Why live on autopilot?💭 What’s one area where you’re ready to go against your nature?📌 Don’t forget to share this with a friend who’s stuck in a cycle — or ready to break free.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this episode of the Inside OUT Podcast, Jojo is  joined once again by the incredible Dr. Victoria Grinman for a raw and reflective deep dive into what we’re calling The Presence Paradox — how slowing down can actually move your life forward.They unpack the messy, beautiful layers of personal growth, emotional intelligence, and spiritual realignment. From the power of presence over distraction to trusting the uncomfortable in-between, and explore what it really means to pause with purpose — and how that pause can generate deeper clarity, confidence, and connection.They also talk about:How fear shapes our choicesCreating space for alignmentRewiring patterns in love, life & businessDating without desperationAnd choosing presence as a path to abundanceThis one’s for the overthinkers, the overdoers, and the ones who are done muscling their way through life.Let’s get MESy — mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.Connect with Dr. V on instagram @drvictoriagrinman and learn more about her HERE Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

This episode has been sitting with me since March — literally. I recorded this conversation with Dr. Victoria Grinman months ago, and for a lot of reasons (life, timing, alignment), it just didn’t feel ready to release… until now.Victoria is a psychotherapist, a mentor to other healers, and someone who brings a deeply spiritual lens to everything she does. This conversation explores the dance between control and surrender, why trusting the process is so much harder when it comes to relationships, and how to navigate rejection in a way that actually brings you closer to yourself. Dr. V also shares how she blends spirituality into her business, and why building anything meaningful starts with expanding the vessel — not forcing the outcome.This episode is a reminder that just because you’re not where you thought you’d be doesn’t mean you’re off track. Sometimes the waiting is the work.Let it land. And let it be enough, right now.As promised the books we brought up in the episode: The Power of Kabbalah by Yehuda BergGod Wears Lipstick by Karen BergConnect with Dr. V on instagram @drvictoriagrinman and learn more about her HERE Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

This week on Inside Out, Jojo gets real about the space in between—that liminal, uncomfortable, slightly chaotic place where you’re no longer who you were… but not yet who you’re becoming. In this solo episode, she opens up about what it means to slow down, sit with discomfort, and observe thoughts, patterns, and fears without rushing to fix or control them.From facing her fear (of snakes, literally) to noticing how her internal shifts are transforming what—and who—she attracts, Jojo invites listeners into a conversation about resistance, nervous system regulation, and the quiet power of pause.This episode is a reminder that real growth doesn’t begin with action—it begins with awareness. Let’s get messy—mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

This week, we’re getting real about something that everyone thinks about but almost no one talks about: money. And not just dollars and cents — we’re diving into the energy of money, the shame around it, the fear of not enough, and the wild limiting beliefs that so many of us carry without even realizing it.I’m joined by Maya Liran, creator of The Rewrite — a transformational six-week experience helping women shift their money mindset and step into financial empowerment. We get messy (you already know) and talk about everything from childhood money trauma, student debt spirals, and that tricky voice that whispers “Who am I to have more?”We’re breaking down myths, shifting language, and exploring how our self-worth has nothing to do with our net worth. It’s part therapy, part money school, and a whole lot of spiritual truth bombs.If you’ve ever felt shame about debt, fear around finances, or just overwhelmed by the whole money thing… this one’s for you.Follow Maya @maya_manifestLearn about The Rewrite, sign up for Maya’s mailing list, listen to more interviews and a free Women’s Financial Empowerment Gathering HEREBook recommendations: Happy Money by Ken Honda, Love Money, Money Loves You  by Sarah McCrum and Signs: The Secret Language of the Universe by Laura Lynne JacksonRoot Chakra Cognitive Reprograming Affirmations Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Money — the topic we avoid, the energy we fear, and the number we let define us. In this solo episode, Jojo gets real about the shame, scarcity, and self-sabotage that money stirs up. From self-worth tied to bank accounts to relationships blown up over financial insecurity, we’re digging into the emotional grip money has on our lives — and how to start releasing it.Because spoiler alert: your net worth ≠ your self-worth.Let’s get MESy with it — mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this solo episode, Jojo gets raw and real about direction, purpose, and what it means to live in alignment with who you're becoming—not just who you used to be. From childhood dreams of acting to unexpected pivots into podcasting and aviation, Jojo shares the deeply personal story of how her path has unfolded, the identity shifts along the way, and the wake-up moments that forced her to ask: Is this still what I want?This episode is an invitation to pause and reflect. Are you living a life that's truly yours—or just moving through the motions? Whether you're feeling stuck, uncertain, or on the edge of a new beginning, this conversation will help you reconnect with your younger self, borrow energy from your higher self, and chart a course that feels aligned, intentional, and fully you.Let’s get messy—mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this heartfelt episode of Inside OUT, Jojo sits down with her best friend and now co-founder of TZR (Teaser), Chelsea McCloskey. From performing with the Knicks to opening her own Pilates studio, Chelsea shares the raw, behind-the-scenes story of her transformation—through heartbreak, loss, and divine redirection. They dive deep into the spiritual signs, emotional breakdowns, and mental blocks that ultimately led Chelsea to say “yes” to her calling. This episode is about trusting the journey, building something bigger than yourself, and letting faith light the way.Find Chelsea on instagram here Stay up to date with all things TZR here  Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

Can you build a thriving business and stay spiritually aligned? In this episode of Inside OUT, Jojo sits down with David Berg — founder & CEO of Commander AI and host of The Success Series podcast — to explore the intersection of career success and spiritual growth.David shares how his deep-rooted spiritual practice has shaped his entrepreneurial journey, why time-blocking and intention are key to productivity, and how to create a career that aligns with your soul's purpose — not just your bank account.They dive into practical tools for balancing ambition with authenticity, overcoming fear and self-doubt, and building a business from a place of service and higher meaning. If you're seeking career fulfillment without compromising your spiritual values, this conversation is for you.Topics covered:✅ How to align your career with your spiritual path✅ Why "doing the right thing" drives lasting success✅ Tools to overcome scarcity and fear in business✅ The importance of time-blocking for entrepreneurs✅ How to build a purpose-driven business✅ Creating impact beyond incomePerfect for: entrepreneurs, creatives, career-changers, spiritual seekers, and anyone wanting to build a more aligned and fulfilling career.Find David on Instagram @daviddberg and @commander__aiCheck on the Success Series Podcast @the_successseriesMore information: The Kabbalah Center Time Blocking Journal found HERE Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

We always talk about the fear of failure — but what if what’s really holding you back… is the fear that it might actually work?In this solo episode of Inside Out, I’m unpacking the sneaky, often unspoken fear of success. The part of us that worries: if I expand, will I lose people? Will I outgrow my old life? Will I still be loved if I change?This one’s for the version of you that’s on the edge of a breakthrough but can’t seem to leap. We’ll explore how we self-sabotage through procrastination, perfectionism, and playing small — not because we don’t believe in ourselves, but because we’re scared of the ripple effect that real growth can bring.✨ Ties in with past Inside OUT episodes:From Limiting Beliefs to a Liberating Life – confronting internal narratives that keep us smallCompeting Desires Gridlock: Why We Stay Stuck & How to get Unstuck – when the life you want is blocked by unconscious fearsBreaking the Loop: Ending Repetitive Patterns – ending the patterns that keep us stuckBoundaries: From Self-Betrayal to Self-Respect – honoring the version of you that wants moreReframing Reality: The Power of Positive Speech – how your words, mindset, and energy shape what you allow inBook Recommendation: Fear is NOT an Option by Monica Berg This episode is a love letter to the future you — the one that’s scared and ready. Let’s get MESy. Let’s get free. Let’s let it work!Thank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this episode, we’re getting MESy about all things career, purpose, fear, identity—and why making soul-aligned moves can feel so damn scary.I’m joined by returning guest Yosef Yeshurun (Kabbalah teacher and spiritual coach) to unpack what it really takes to shift from “just a job” to work that actually fulfills you. We talk:→ why success is often scarier than failure→ how to know if your career is aligned with your soul (or just your ego)→ why your “why” matters more than your title→ the spiritual roots of imposter syndrome + fear of playing big→ how to move from stuck → progress (even if you’re scared AF)Whether you’re craving a career pivot, questioning your current path, or feeling that quiet nudge to finally do the thing you’ve been avoiding — this one’s for you.✨ Grab your journal. We’re going deep.Special Offer: Want to dive deeper with Yosef?Use code INSIDEOUT for 20% off your first semi-annual subscription to his Daily Soul Inspiration platform. Once you sign up you will have access to a private WhatsApp chat where Yosef sends a 7 minute audio lesson every day. Sign up here!Want more from Yosef on Inside OUT?  Check out our last episode: Clarity & Compatibility: The Key to Meaningful RelationshipsFind Yosef at the Kabbalah Center in NYC, and on instagram @yosefyeshThank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more! 

In this solo episode of the Inside Out Podcast, Jojo explores the power of moving in silence — and why not every dream, goal, or relationship should be shared before it’s fully rooted.Drawing from Kabbalistic wisdom on concealment, spiritual teachings, and personal experience, Jojo unpacks why keeping your creative process sacred protects your energy, prevents “evil eye” and projection, and allows your visions to manifest authentically.You’ll learn:✨ Why announcing things too early can block your alignment✨ How to tell the difference between ego-driven sharing vs. soul-driven creation✨ What Kabbalah teaches about concealment for protection✨ How to spot where you’re leaking energy in your life✨ Why true success speaks for itself (aka, “checkmate”)Whether you’re launching a business, navigating a career pivot, starting a relationship, or building a personal goal — this episode offers a grounded, spiritual lens on why sometimes, the best move is no announcement at all.Listen now and learn how to protect your purpose and create from alignment.#movinginsilence #spiritualentrepreneurship #concealtocreate #energyprotection #spiritualalignment #insideoutpodcastThank you for listening! Don't forget to follow along on social media @_insideout.podcast, rate and review. And Join the MESy Mailing List for exclusive content, insights on what is coming up and more!