The Pubcast with Jon Loomer

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The Pubcast with Jon Loomer

Facebook ads news, strategies, and discussion in a quick 5-10 minute "Shot" format. Started in 2013, full Pubcast was originally an interview format where Jon and his guest discussed business topics over a beer. The format change, but the name has endured. Pop a bottle...

  1. 695

    Should You Use a Funnel for High Ticket Products?

    Today's question is about the right funnel strategy for high-ticket consumer products on Meta. Cheaper leads don't automatically mean cheaper conversions, and a small discount may attract the wrong people while missing buyers who would purchase without one. Jon explains why optimizing straight for the purchase should always be tested first, why a tightly connected lead magnet beats a generic discount as a funnel entry point, and when remarketing is still worth using for high-ticket products. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  2. 694

    You're Probably Not Wasting Money on Ads

    Advertisers are quick to shut off ads when results look bad, but poor short-term performance isn't the same as wasted budget. New businesses and first-time advertisers are building awareness and data even when early numbers look awful. Jon explains why overreacting to initial results is usually a mistake, when you're actually wasting money through high volumes of junk traffic or mismatched demographics, and how to diagnose and fix those problems before they spiral.

  3. 693

    Does Adding More Ads Actually Hurt Performance?

    Today's question is about whether adding too many ads to a single ad set can actually hurt delivery. Meta removed its old recommendation of no more than six ads per ad set, but that doesn't mean more is always better. Jon explains why starting small with a couple of creatively diverse ads and adding more only when needed is the smarter approach, why the delivery algorithm may get lost when it has too many options for the budget, and why pruning ads that Meta rarely shows should be part of your troubleshooting when results decline. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  4. 692

    Don't Get Attached to Your Ad Process

    Two new features are changing how Jon creates ads. Push delivery lets you force spend to any existing ad to get answers, eliminating the need to start every new ad with a creative test. And the new creative workflow lets you combine multiple images and videos into a single ad with customizable text and URLs per creative, consolidating what used to require dozens of separate ads. Jon explains why both features make his previous process obsolete and why tying yourself to any single approach guarantees you'll fall behind.

  5. 691

    Are You Setting Up Client Access the Wrong Way?

    Today's question is about the recommended structure and access levels between a client and agency when onboarding. Setting this up incorrectly can lead to serious problems, including getting accounts banned. Jon explains why the client should own all of their own assets and add your agency as a partner rather than a person, what access levels to grant for each asset, and why sharing login credentials or creating assets under the agency's business manager leads to problems when the relationship eventually ends. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  6. 690

    Why Meta Keeps Pushing Value Rules

    Meta has spent years removing advertiser control over targeting and placements, so actively encouraging value rules seemed contradictory. But it makes sense when you see where things are headed. Jon explains how a new test version lets you bid based on custom audience labels for lead quality and customer value, why value rules fill a knowledge gap the algorithm can't solve alone, and why they'll replace traditional delivery controls as Meta locks everything else down.

  7. 689

    How Do You Reach Only New Customers?

    Today's question is about whether to exclude existing customers from your ads when you want to acquire new ones, and how to do it. Meta retargets existing customers by default, which isn't automatically a problem because those people convert easily and keep your costs down, but it can mask real performance or lower your average order value. Jon explains why you need to confirm there's an actual problem before excluding anyone, how to use website and customer list custom audiences together since each is imperfect on its own, and why new features like customer lifecycle strategy and value rules for existing customers could change the approach entirely. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  8. 688

    Your Excuses Are Holding Back Your Results

    Advertisers love to blame Meta when results tank, pointing to outages, Advantage+ enhancements, and automated settings as proof the platform is out to get them. There's a little truth in every complaint, which is exactly why they spread, but they're also excuses that keep you from finding actual solutions. Jon explains why blaming Meta makes you look like an amateur to clients, how to troubleshoot performance drops by using breakdowns to isolate the real cause, and why the answer is almost always something within your control, usually the ads themselves.

  9. 687

    Do You Need to Warm Up a New Ad Account?

    Today's question is about whether a brand new ad account, Facebook page, and pixel need any special treatment before running sales campaigns. Conventional wisdom says to build followers first, run awareness campaigns, or season the pixel with top-of-funnel activity. Jon explains why these recommendations are nonsense and often counterproductive, how building low-quality engagement early can poison your remarketing audiences, and why optimizing for purchases or leads from day one is the fastest path to real results. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  10. 686

    Stop Hiding Your Ad Account from Clients

    Agencies that hide ad accounts from clients claim their campaign setup is proprietary, but modern best practices mean minimal campaigns and simplified structures that aren't worth hiding. The real value an advertiser brings isn't something a client can copy by looking at your settings. Jon explains why hiding your work destroys trust, why the fear of being replaced means you need to rethink where you add value, and why using the client's own ad account and assets is better for everyone.

  11. 685

    Can Your Audience Be Too Niche for Meta Ads?

    Today's question is about whether a niche B2B audience can be too small for Meta ads to work effectively. Any business with a large enough real-world market to be profitable has an audience on Facebook and Instagram, so the issue isn't reach. The real question is whether Meta advertising will be worthwhile. Jon explains why no business is technically too niche for Meta, how success depends on creative, offer, lead qualification, and follow-up rather than targeting, and why the cost and quality of leads compared to their overall value is what determines if it's worth it. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  12. 684

    Social Proof Might Not Matter After All

    Advertisers assume ads with thousands of comments and reactions perform better due to social proof, and fear making edits that would erase that engagement. But Jon duplicated an ad with 6,000 comments and the new version starting from scratch immediately matched and even beat the original's performance. He explains why we might be overvaluing social proof and why the content of your ad matters more than engagement signals.

  13. 683

    Does a Higher CPM Mean You Should Spend More?

    Today's question is about CPM being double in the US versus the UK and whether that means you should allocate double the budget. CPM varies by country due to competition, but higher CPM doesn't automatically mean worse performance. Jon explains when to combine countries versus split them, how Meta balances costs and conversion rates, and why you should let results guide your budget allocation instead of CPM alone. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  14. 682

    What Meta Isn't Telling You About Your Creative

    Meta provides no transparency about which specific images or videos perform best when using flexible format, related media, or AI generated creative. Breakdowns exist but share almost no useful detail. Jon explains why this lack of transparency is intentional at this point, why it matters for creative teams who need feedback, and why Meta needs to share this information despite the risk of advertisers misusing it.

  15. 681

    How Do You Advertise Products with Long Buying Cycles?

    Today's question is about advertising expensive products with long buying cycles that fall outside the seven or 28 day attribution window. Should you run traffic campaigns instead of purchase campaigns if most conversions won't be tracked anyway? Jon explains why you need to confirm this is actually happening, how multiple ads for different awareness levels can keep conversions within windows, and when to consider alternative approaches. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  16. 680

    Meta's Conversion Reporting Is Not the Problem

    Advertisers claim Meta steals credit for conversions that were actually driven by email or Google, calling conversion reporting vanity metrics. But attribution is messy and trying to assign single-source credit misses the point entirely. Jon explains what different conversion types actually mean, why obsessing over credit is foolish, and how effective campaigns require multiple channels working together where shared credit matters more than exclusive credit.

  17. 679

    What Do Most Advertisers Get Wrong About Meta Ads?

    Today's question is about the single most common point of confusion Jon wishes everyone understood about Meta ads. He can't pick just one, so he gives three. Jon explains why the algorithm being literal shapes everything, why targeting control is mostly unnecessary now, and where advertisers should actually focus when results aren't good. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  18. 678

    Click Attribution Isn't What It Used to Be

    Meta changed how click attribution works, and it's mostly for the better, but some advertisers might see a negative impact. Click-through conversions now require an actual link click, while social clicks and other engagement moved to a new engage-through attribution with a shorter window. Jon explains what changed, why some conversions will be lost, and which strategy gets hit hardest by the update.

  19. 677

    Should You Start New Campaigns with Creative Testing?

    Today's question is whether to launch a brand new campaign with creative testing or start testing later with new creatives. There's no absolute right answer, but Jon has a preferred approach with clear reasoning behind it. He explains why starting new ads with a test answers questions you'll have later, avoids the messy workaround of duplicating existing ads, and ensures you get meaningful data from the start. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  20. 676

    Why Your Ads Aren't Working Today

    Ads that were working fine suddenly tank, and advertisers assume Meta changed who they're showing ads to or messed up delivery. But there's usually a simpler explanation. Jon breaks down the five real causes of sudden performance drops, including randomness, competitive variables, website issues, and event delays, and why obsessing over daily results drives you crazy when seven-day averages are what matter.

  21. 675

    Does Manual Bidding Actually Work?

    Today's question is about using manual bidding like cost caps to control costs while scaling budget when campaigns perform well. By default, Meta tries to get the most results while spending your entire budget, which means a mix of auction costs. Jon explains why setting manual bid controls usually leads to inconsistent delivery and questionable quality, how it might restrict you to low-quality placements, and why outsmarting the algorithm rarely works. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  22. 674

    How I Actually Approach Targeting in 2026

    Most advertisers obsess over targeting inputs that either do nothing or actively hurt results. Jon explains why he ignores audience suggestions, age restrictions, detailed targeting, and lookalikes entirely, how he uses value rules to handle demographic problems instead, and why the only inputs worth touching are locations and exclusions.

  23. 673

    Do You Need Separate Ad Sets for Customer Personas?

    Today's question is about testing different customer personas using the creative testing tool. Advertisers used to create separate ad sets for each persona with adjusted targeting, but that's outdated now. Jon explains why all customer personas can exist in one ad set, how Meta finds the right audience for each ad combination through creative diversification, and when splitting by persona actually makes sense versus when it's unnecessary complexity. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  24. 672

    The Case for Removing Audience Suggestions

    Audience suggestions cause confusion because advertisers think they're tight constraints when they're not. Jon proposes how Meta could eliminate suggestions entirely while keeping audience controls like location and exclusions. The result would strip away the illusion of control, prevent mistakes based on false assumptions, and force advertisers to focus on what actually matters without pretending inputs do more than they do.

  25. 671

    What to Do With Creative Testing Results

    Today's question is about determining what works from top performing ads to inform the next batch of creative. Creative testing used to isolate single elements, but now ads generate thousands of combinations through text options, placements, and enhancements. Jon explains why finding one winning combination isn't the goal anymore, how to use the creative testing tool to identify themes instead of specific winners, and why success comes from many winning combinations in aggregate. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  26. 670

    Confirmation Bias Makes You a Worse Advertiser

    Advertisers believe something works and only pay attention to evidence supporting it while ignoring contradictions. They blame Andromeda or the algorithm when strategies stop working instead of questioning their assumptions. Jon explains why confirmation bias makes experienced advertisers the worst offenders, how to test beliefs instead of confirming them, and why staying curious and open to being wrong gets better results than clinging to outdated strategies.

  27. 669

    How to Exclude Customers from Your Ads

    Today's question is about preventing customers from purchasing the same audiobook bundle twice through ads. Excluding customers is a balance of risks versus benefits, and no single custom audience catches everyone. Jon explains why you should exclude multiple custom audiences including website purchasers and email lists, how to improve match rates, and why keeping audiences dynamically updated limits repeat purchases. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  28. 668

    Audience Suggestions Are an Illusion of Control

    Audience suggestions feel like control, but Meta ignores them constantly, especially for age and gender. There's no proof they impact detailed targeting or lookalikes, yet they cause confusion and wasted effort creating multiple ad sets. Jon explains why Meta should eliminate audience suggestions entirely, how the illusion of control hurts results, and why you'd be better off without them.

  29. 667

    Should You Use Popups on Your Landing Pages?

    Today's question is whether you should remove email signup popups from landing pages when sending paid Meta traffic to them. Popups don't technically violate Meta's rules, but they can contribute to bad post-click experiences that drive up your costs if they hurt bounce rate or dwell time. Jon explains how Meta measures ad quality through landing page experiences, when popups become a problem versus when they might be fine, and why you should test a version without the popup to see what actually works. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  30. 666

    Challenge Every Choice That Adds Complexity

    Advertisers have a tendency to overcomplicate their campaigns with multiple ad sets, restricted targeting, removed placements, and turned-off enhancements, often without clear reasons for these decisions. Jon challenges you to audit your current campaigns and question every piece of complexity you've added by asking why you made each decision, what problem you were solving, and whether there was a better solution that didn't require watering down your budget or limiting Meta's optimization.

  31. 665

    How to Structure Seasonal Ad Campaigns

    Today's question is about campaign structure for seasonal products, specifically whether to split major holidays into separate ad sets with spending limits. Seasonal businesses face a unique challenge of running evergreen products year-round while also promoting holiday-specific items for limited periods. Jon explains how to structure a CBO campaign with multiple ad sets for different seasons, when to turn seasonal ad sets off based on performance, and whether ad set spending limits are actually necessary or just adding unnecessary restrictions. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  32. 664

    You Can Control Lead Quality From Meta Ads

    Advertisers blame Meta when their leads are low quality, pointing to the algorithm exploiting weaknesses like age range or placements to get cheap conversions. But the real problem with lead quality usually has nothing to do with Meta or your ads. Jon explains why your follow-up process, email deliverability, sales team, and automation are what actually determine lead quality, and the specific steps you need to take to make sure real leads don't get ignored or lost in spam folders.

  33. 663

    Why Campaigns Start Strong Then Decline

    Today's question is why campaigns stop working after two or three weeks when the ads generated sales initially and there's no ad fatigue. Meta starts by showing ads to low hanging fruit, the people most likely to convert, which often includes your remarketing audience even with algorithmic targeting. Jon explains why this group gets exhausted quickly, how audience size and product niche affect the drop-off, and why it's not normal to go from great performance to bad performance if your fundamentals are solid. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  34. 662

    Stack Creative Diversity in Phases

    Creative diversification sounds great in theory, but most advertisers take Meta's recommendations too literally and waste time creating 20 ads at once that never get shown. There's a smarter way to approach creative diversity without overwhelming yourself or your budget. Jon explains how to stack creative diversity in phases using the creative testing tool, starting with one theme and learning what works before building the next uniquely different set, so you're being strategic instead of just creating more ads for the sake of it.

  35. 661

    When to Use Multiple Campaigns or Ad Sets

    Today's question is about when to use multiple campaigns instead of a single Advantage Plus campaign structure, especially when it comes to separating cold traffic and retargeting. Remarketing happens naturally through algorithmic targeting now, so splitting it out is usually unnecessary. Jon explains the specific situations where multiple campaigns or ad sets actually make sense, why budget splits can hurt your results, and when keeping everything in one place is the smarter approach. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  36. 660

    How to Use Value Rules to Solve Problems

    Meta spent years taking control away from advertisers, discouraging them from restricting targeting or removing placements, so launching Value Rules seemed like a confusing contradiction. But it actually makes perfect sense when you understand what the feature does. Jon explains why Value Rules are one of his favorite tools, how to use them to solve problems with age targeting, gender distribution, and placements like Audience Network, and why they're better than restricting your targeting entirely.

  37. 659

    The Easiest Way to Set Up Server-Side Tracking

    Today's question is about the easiest and most cost-effective way to set up server-side tracking and the Conversions API. The website pixel alone isn't reliable anymore due to privacy laws and browser settings, which means incomplete data and bad optimization. Jon explains why you need the Conversions API, the simplest setup method using the Conversions API Gateway, and when you might need to tackle the more complex step of sending CRM events. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  38. 658

    Make Creative Testing Part of Your Process

    Meta's creative testing tool launched in 2025, but most advertisers either aren't using it or completely misunderstand how it works. The old approach of creating separate campaigns and ad sets for testing has serious flaws that this tool solves. Jon explains why the creative testing tool should be part of your process, how to use it in stages instead of testing 20 ads at once, and why it gives you data to make informed decisions instead of guessing based on gut feel.

  39. 657

    The Biggest Meta Advertising Updates of 2025

    Meta introduced 83 changes to advertising in 2025, making it nearly impossible to keep up if you weren't paying close attention. Three updates stood out above the rest and completely changed how advertisers should approach their campaigns. Jon breaks down the year of Andromeda, the creative testing tool that finally makes testing useful, and value rules that give back control where you actually need it.

  40. 656

    What Attribution Setting Should You Use?

    Today's question is whether you should use 7 day click, 1 day click, or 1 day view for attribution. The best attribution setting depends entirely on what you're promoting and who you're targeting. Jon explains when to stick with Meta's defaults, when to switch to 1 day click only, and the one specific scenario where view through conversions will make your results look way better than they actually are. Want your question to be answered on a future episode? Go to JonLoomer.com/Question and record your question today.

  41. 655

    Look Beyond Surface-Level Results

    Advertisers either oversimplify results by only looking at conversions and cost per conversion, or they get lost obsessing over secondary metrics like CPM and CTR that don't actually matter much. But conversion results have multiple layers that reveal what's really happening. Jon explains how to use attribution settings, breakdowns, and backend data to dig beyond surface-level metrics and understand what your results actually mean.

  42. 654

    Simple Isn't Always Better for Meta Ads

    Simplified campaign construction is the foundation of good Meta advertising, but there are legitimate exceptions where complexity is necessary. The problem is knowing when to add complexity versus when you're hurting your own results. Jon explains how to thread the needle between too simple and too complicated, and why you should start simple and only add layers when they solve actual problems.

  43. 653

    You're Overthinking Your Ad Setup

    Advertisers get stuck planning the perfect campaign with 20 or 30 ads across different personas, messaging angles, and formats, only to watch Meta spend most of the budget on one ad after weeks of preparation. But all that upfront planning wastes time you could spend learning from actual results. Jon explains why you should start small with one or two ads, hit publish quickly, and build based on what's actually working instead of what you think will work.

  44. 652

    Stop Blaming Andromeda for Your Results

    Advertisers blame Andromeda when their results tank, treating it like a boogeyman algorithm that destroyed their performance. But most don't even understand what Andromeda actually is or how it works. Jon explains what this ad retrieval engine really does, why creative diversification doesn't mean creating 50 ads, and how to use it without drowning in unnecessary work.

  45. 651

    Understand How Meta Advertising Actually Works

    Conspiracy theories about Meta advertising spread because most advertisers don't understand how things actually work, making them vulnerable to believing anything. Jon challenges you to invest time learning Meta's actual mechanics, not theory or opinion, and explains why building this foundation of fact is the only way to cut through the noise and confusion.

  46. 650

    Embrace the Grays of Meta Advertising

    Advertisers want clear rules, step-by-step checklists, and universal solutions they can apply to fix their campaigns. But Meta advertising doesn't work that way, and demanding certainty means missing where real solutions are found. Jon explains why "it depends" isn't a cop-out, why the best answers live in the grays, and how to get comfortable with the uncertainty that comes with actually understanding how things work.

  47. 649

    Focus on the What and Why, Not the How

    Advertisers list every campaign detail when their results tank, like objectives, ad sets, targeting, placements, and creative counts, hoping the right setting will fix everything. But obsessing over the "how" of Meta advertising means ignoring what actually drives performance. Jon explains why you should focus on the "what" and "why" instead, and what questions you need to ask when troubleshooting bad results.

  48. 648

    Let Go of the Excuses

    Experienced advertisers who've spent millions often blame Meta when results tank, but they're missing something crucial. Jon explains why humility might be the most overlooked trait in advertising and why new advertisers often have an advantage over veterans.

  49. 647

    What Should You Do When Your Ads Aren't Working?

    When ads stop working, most advertisers tweak targeting or try new campaign structures. But there's a static list of things that actually matter, and it never changes. Jon walks through the exact troubleshooting process you should follow, starting with why complexity is your enemy.

  50. 646

    Embrace Your Lack of Control

    Advertisers resist every Meta automation because they want control over targeting, budget distribution, and creative enhancements. But this resistance isn't just about performance. Jon explains why clinging to control will make you obsolete and what you need to embrace instead.

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Facebook ads news, strategies, and discussion in a quick 5-10 minute "Shot" format. Started in 2013, full Pubcast was originally an interview format where Jon and his guest discussed business topics over a beer. The format change, but the name has endured. Pop a bottle...

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