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Diary of a first-time CMO volume 2
by Cognism
This podcast diary is the second in Alice’s series of the Diary of a first-time CMO. Across 50+ entries, Alice de Courcy unpacks lessons she’s learned in the past two years since her last diary, scaling Cognism into new regions, introducing new products to market, on route to hitting the 100M mark. And it’s all available in audio format, for free, here!
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The last word
You’ve reached the end of Alice’s diary of a first time CMO volume two, thank you so much for listening.
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Final entry: My big bets
As the diary of a first-time CMO volume two comes to an end, Alice shares what she thinks will be important for her, the Cognism marketing team and B2B marketers in general over the coming year.
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Bonus entry 12: Distributing our content
After sharing our content strategy in the previous entry, this entry dives into how we distribute the content we create throughout our various channels.
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Entry 38: Our updated content strategy
Our content framework revolves around ‘what we want to be known for’. Listen to Alice explain our ‘content roadmap’, which feeds our media machine content and big rock content campaigns.
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Team entry 6: Warming up a region with marketing - LinkedIn post authored by Liam Bartholomew
One of the ways you can reduce the risk of failure before entering a new region is by doing some test marketing in that region first. You can gauge the interest, create some demand - and most importantly identify any blockers early on.
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Bonus entry 11: Finding and working with subject matter experts in new regions
Working with SMEs is a huge part of the Cognism marketing strategy, and therefore we need to be able to identify and reach out to relevant SMEs in new regions when we have plans to expand there. This entry delves into how we manage this process.
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Bonus entry 10: How we nailed expanding into France
This entry follows on from entry 37, discussing how Alice and the Cognism team applied the lessons learned from their DACH expansion, to their French expansion.
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Entry 37: Mistakes we made expanding into DACH
Not every venture is immediately successful. However, the lessons we learn from doing things the wrong way, teach us a lot about how to do things next time. This entry goes into details on what went wrong in our DACH expansion, and how we used this to launch effectively into France.
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Entry 36: Implementing AI in marketing
Alice and Cognism’s CEO are keen to be one of the first adopters of new AI tech that can help the company become more efficient in its processes. This entry delves into a few of the ways in which we are already utilising AI tools.
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Bonus entry 9: How we use the Cognism product for marketing internally
Most people know Cognism for its sales use case, but internally, we drink our own champagne and utilise the Cognism product for our own marketing. This entry shares how.
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Entry 35: Kaspr’s growth journey
How do you apply the Cognism demand generation approach in a smaller company? This entry deep dives how Alice adjusted the Kaspr set up to incorporate demand generation.
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Team entry 5: Kaspr versus Cognism positioning - LinkedIn post authored by James Isilay
Cognism and Kaspr are two very similar products, but two very different audiences. When bringing Kaspr into the Cognism family, we had to think carefully about how we position each in a way that helps both companies to thrive next to one another. This entry explains that positioning.
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Entry 34: Valued I hire for
One of the biggest investments you make as a marketing leader is who you hire. How do you make sure each hire is just as strong as the last? This entry dives into the key values Alice looks for when hiring for the marketing team at Cognism.
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Entry 33: A deep dive into Cognism’s 1:1 ABM tactics
This entry is part three of Cognism’s ABM strategy, specifically looking at how we build towards identifying our 1:1 targets and then how we try to reach said target accounts.
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Entry 32: ABM early results
This entry is part two of Cognism’s ABM strategy, plus some of the results we’ve managed to achieve from our ABM activity so far.
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Entry 31: Developing an ABM strategy
Cognism has gone from zero ABM strategy to an ABM strategy pulling in 300k opps in a matter of weeks. Listen to Alice deep dive what we do for ABM.
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Entry 30: How to manage wide scale company reporting as you scale
Separate to OKR reporting, how do you track BAU targets? Especially as you grow and have a lot more to have oversight on as a marketing leader… This is how we manage reporting at Cognism.
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Bonus entry 8: How we work with agencies and freelancers
Which roles should you have in house, and which can you outsource to someone external? This entry explains Alice’s strategy and philosophy for freelancers and agencies.
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Entry 29: 5 years investment in SEO, now a Hubspot competitor
When others zig, you should zag. Cognism’s SEO strategy has always looked at the long game, focusing on quality - and not on programmatic SEO. Despite a lot of advisors telling us otherwise. This approach has resulted in a website that competes along with the likes of Hubspot.
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Entry 28: When to translate, and when not to translate - that is the question 💀
When expanding into new regions, when can you translate existing content - and when should you create something new? Listen to find out how we balance the low hanging fruit content translation opportunities, versus creating dedicated regional content.
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Bonus entry 7: Bringing a new product to market: A PMM perspective
What happens in PMM when a new product is brought to market? This entry offers you an insight into the behind the scenes activity which took place for Cognism’s Enrich launch.
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Entry 27: OKRs, sprints and Asana tasks
As the Cognism marketing team - and entire organisation - grew larger, we needed a system to hold us accountable to company goals. This entry explains what system we landed on.
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Entry 26: Cognism’s in-person events strategy
Alice’s swings back and forth on in-person events and how to run them. But this year, we’ve landed on an in-person events strategy we’re happy with - and is working.
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Team entry 4: Paid ads wins - LinkedIn post authored by Liam Collins
Listen to Alice’s take on our new VP of Paid Acquisition’s post about his quick wins from his early days in seat at Cognism.
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Entry 25: Hiring mindset over skill set
It’s much easier to teach someone a new skill, than it is to teach them a new way of thinking… That’s why Alice prefers to bring people in who are already bought into the demand generation mindset.
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Entry 24: How to launch a DG campaign the Cognism way
How do we run demand generation content campaigns ‘the cognism way’? This entry runs through a real life campaign example from Fix Your Funnel, a huge campaign that was launched in a matter of weeks.
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Entry 23: Growth is hidden in your current processes
This entry details three ways in which we have optimised our internal processes to become more efficient during an efficiency phase of Cognism’s growth.
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Entry 22: Building a team of agencies
Cognism’s team setup might be a little unusual… Listen to Alice explain why she wants Cognism’s marketing team to work together as agencies.
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Bonus entry 6: Working with my CEO
Working with your CEO is a very important aspect of being a marketing leader. And so knowing what they care about and how to best present information to them is a crucial thing to understand.
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Entry 21: The evolution of the demand generation content manager
What is our DG content set up? How do we decide what content we’re going to work on next? And how do we make sure we are always outputting, even when working on ‘big rocks’?
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Entry 20: Launching long form content that isn’t a gated eBook
Downloading content doesn’t equal intent to buy. Which is why we don’t create gated content anymore. That doesn’t mean we don’t create long form content, however. Listen to find out how we put out long form content, without gates.
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Bonus entry 5: Wearing many hats, strategic versus operation
Historically, Alice has been a very operational marketer. She likes being able to get into the weeds and do things for herself. However, as a CMO, her biggest role is as a strategic thinker. Click to listen to how Alice has found the balance.
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Entry 19: Improve user experience with enrichment
Enrichment has a wide variety of benefits, which is why we use it a lot at Cognism to reduce the amount of data we need prospects to give us, and to keep the data up to date.
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Entry 18: Marketing and parenthood aren’t one-size-fits-all
Everyone's an expert when it comes to two things… marketing, and parenthood. Listen to Alice’s experiences learning to ‘nod along’ to advice from either kind of ‘expert’.
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Bonus entry 4: Driving pipeline and revenue with aligned demand gen and paid teams
Misalignment between demand gen and paid teams can cause chaos. If DG managers are creating ads that are then being applied in a way they didn’t intend, or vice versa, DG managers aren’t creating what paid needs to get results… well it’s all a mess. Click to hear how our DG and paid teams are structured, and how they work together.
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Entry 17: Fresh paid acquisition leadership
What did our new VP of Paid Acquisition get done in his first 160 days of being in seat at Cognism? Click to find out.
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Entry 16: Making enterprise specific content
What should you do when trying to attract enterprise targets with content? We assumed that we’d have to create dedicated content just for them. Turns out we were wrong. Listen to hear where we landed with enterprise content.
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Bonus entry 3: C-suite dynamics
What does the C-suite team day-to-day look like? How do they make sure they’re aligned? How often do they get together to make decisions? Listen as Alice breaks it down.
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Entry 15: The demand gen playbook
Behind the scenes of creating the most complete demand generation course to teach marketers about how to do demand gen like we do.
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Team entry 3: Being a woman in the C-suite in a fast moving start up
What’s it like being a female leader of marketing in a very fast moving organisation - especially when you take a step away to become a mother? Click to here Alice’s account.
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Entry 14: Minimal viable tests and minimal viable products
Done is better than perfect! Listen to find out Alice’s philosophy on how to validate ideas before you’ve spent any time or money on projects.
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Entry 13: Build your own B2B marketing playbook
If only there was a silver bullet when it comes to marketing playbooks. But that just isn’t the case. Listen to Alice’s advice on building a process around finding the right playbook for any situation.
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Entry 12: Diary of a first-time CMO campaign pivot
The original CMO diary campaign plan is not actually what any one externally would have ended up seeing… listen to find out what happened, and how we pivoted quickly.
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Entry 11: How to reach the modern B2B buyer
On one episode of The Loop podcast, Antonia Wade, CMO of PwC joined Alice to discuss their various solutions to the evolved buyer journey. In this episode, Alice breaks down Antonia’s approach.
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Team entry 2: Less about revenue growth, more about retention - LinkedIn post authored by Liam Bartholomew
There’s no point filling a bucket that has holes in it. And rather than trying to patch the holes - only to see another spring up… Alice and the team instead chose to apply their knowledge from the CHASM project to reinforce GTM motions and fix leaks at the source.
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Bonus entry 2: ICP deep diving
If you don’t have your ICP right, everything else is going to fall like dominos. That’s why Cognism undertook the CHASM project. To check in on our ICP and ensure our GTM motions fit.
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Entry 10: Marketing is only effective if it’s memorable
What’s the point in spending ages crafting a marketing campaign, only for it to be forgotten in a matter of seconds… that’s not going to drive any lasting results. Which is why being memorable is one of the most important things you can do as a marketer.
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Entry 9: The endless benefits of tying yourself to revenue
Alignment with sales, easier budget conversions, and much easier decision making on where to focus. These are just some of the benefits Alice’s discusses that resulted from tying herself to a revenue number.
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Entry 8: How we make our content outperform our biggest competitor
No matter the type of content, our content strategy is about quality, rather than quantity. We don’t want to cut corners, as that only goes against you in the long run.
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Bonus entry 1: The team's favourite tools
Having already covered Alice’s favourite tools in entry 3, this time, it’s the teams turn to give their top tech recommendations.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
This podcast diary is the second in Alice’s series of the Diary of a first-time CMO. Across 50+ entries, Alice de Courcy unpacks lessons she’s learned in the past two years since her last diary, scaling Cognism into new regions, introducing new products to market, on route to hitting the 100M mark. And it’s all available in audio format, for free, here!
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